Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:45     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the obituary advertised in WaPo today only mentions the father? Could the families be pointing fingers at each other and taking their own and mourning alone?


Leave it alone. Concern yourself with how this kid got a gun and hot to prevent tragedies. I already posted before to say Scott is getting totally overshadowed by his wife in the media. He should get recognized for the amazing person he was too. He ended up dead due to his stepdaughter dating the wrong guy. Her own father is still living. Leave his family alone. I knew them way back when and they are truly wonderful people as was he. He is more than just "husband of Buckley the saint."


From the names, it look like he had one child from a previous marriage or relationship, she had one child from a previous marriage relationship, and they had two children together. Right?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:29     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s been almost a week and we are still speculating on basic information: type of gun, how many shots, school, name of shooters family. Even with national coverage. Why is no one talking?


I've been checking the news every day for updates, but I can understand why they're not coming. Police have announced specifically that he'll be tried as a juvenile, which is a big statement given that he's 17, this is Virginia, and the crime is pretty heinous. If they're not going to make a run at trying him as an adult, it's because they know he has some specific capacity issues that would preventing them from showing he had full mental capacity to appreciate what he was doing. As a minor being tried as a juvenile, media outlets will generally have a policy against disclosing his identity or other readily identifying information without his parents' consent. Police will also release less information about crimes when juveniles are involved for a variety of reasons.

I also suspect that part of the reason information isn't coming out as gossip is that the teens probably attended a very small school for children with mental/emotional difficulties, which means they simply didn't have as wide a social as kids in public or a mainstream private would, and parents who knew them through the school are less inclined to talk lest it bring scrutiny upon their own children for attending the same school.


pp, i think you're correct. I will note that the NBC story/video that a link was posted to earlier in this thread had the reporter say the name of the community that his family lived in and then showed the reporter knocking on the door to the house with the street number in plain view on the video. It's not a big community, and so it's pretty easy to confirm the names of the parents and see that the speculation as to his name on other websites is correct. I also suspect that the police don't think he is going to make it, or at the very least will no longer have the mental capacity to be tried as a result of his presumably self inflicted wounds. It's a really sad situation.


The street number is the only one in Lorton with those combination of numbers, and it took about one minute to identify the owners. The father of the killer has an appraisal company and sells a little real estate too. The son was easily identified along with other relatives.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:26     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Funny, if this happened in NE or SE it would barely be mentioned on the news or DCUM. Looks like someone needs to check their white privilege and suburbanite card?


Triple plus 1



Oh I completely agree. They are white, well educated and attractive and it is unfair, but those 3 things make this a bigger news story. Very sad, but I hope something comes out of this that benefits many-charities in their name, valuable info about mental health issues, stricter gun control or charges for those who don't keep their guns secure,.something, anything.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:21     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:So the mom approached it wrong and derserved to be murdered?!?


Apparently.

Moral: Some NeoNazis are very fine people. Don't make them angry or they will run you over or shoot you down.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:13     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the obituary advertised in WaPo today only mentions the father? Could the families be pointing fingers at each other and taking their own and mourning alone?


Leave it alone. Concern yourself with how this kid got a gun and hot to prevent tragedies. I already posted before to say Scott is getting totally overshadowed by his wife in the media. He should get recognized for the amazing person he was too. He ended up dead due to his stepdaughter dating the wrong guy. Her own father is still living. Leave his family alone. I knew them way back when and they are truly wonderful people as was he. He is more than just "husband of Buckley the saint."
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:11     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Today’s print copy of the Washington Post has an obituary (the paid kind, not the staff written sort) for Scott Fricker but not Buckley. His name is the one listed in bold, and hers is not listed at all except noting that her life was also cut short and the upcoming memorial service is for them both. Biographical details are only of Scott, and it referekcesnwishes of the Fricker family. It seems very sad the two families could not come together and do a joint obituary.


Sounds like his family is blaming the stepdaughter


The funeral home lists Buckley’s obituary below Scott’s. And it asks for donations to be made to the National Alliance on Mental Illness.
http://adamsgreen.com/tribute/details/4558/Scott-and-Buckley-Fricker/obituary.html#tribute-start
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:10     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the school poster really a reporter trying to dig for details? Sketchy.


That was my first thought. The other poster who wants the parents to be paraded publicly into a tell all, right now, right away, is also fishing for information.

The poster who said that the shooter's dad is on Facebook. Has the shooter even been identified?


DP. The shooter hasn't been officially identified but you can find his name, if you know how to Google. Seems to have come from a large white-collar Italian family. Republicans, of course.



That's really uncalled for. I'm a Republican and have raised two lovely children who will give back to society and have the judgment not to engage in anything Neo-Nazi. When you post things like this you sound bigoted.


NP, it's not uncalled for. Republican politicians these days, including our president, very clearly express sympathy and (at least) soft support for neo-nazis, white supremacists, and others who have disdain for minorities. It's part of the GOP base these days, and they know it - they know they need their votes.

So while YOU as an individual may be raising your family to have kindness and respect for all, you also belong to a circle of the venn diagram of people who back these vile scum. So do I, in a different way, as someone of Italian descent (their name does appear to be Italian). But I didn't choose to be Italian - people choose to be Republican, and support bigoted Republican politicians (or politicians with a hell of a lot of sympathy for such hatred)


Thank you--beautifully said!


No it is not a beautiful statement. It is a vile elitist statement
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:07     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anyone else find the obituary advertised in WaPo today only mentions the father? Could the families be pointing fingers at each other and taking their own and mourning alone?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:04     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Today’s print copy of the Washington Post has an obituary (the paid kind, not the staff written sort) for Scott Fricker but not Buckley. His name is the one listed in bold, and hers is not listed at all except noting that her life was also cut short and the upcoming memorial service is for them both. Biographical details are only of Scott, and it referekcesnwishes of the Fricker family. It seems very sad the two families could not come together and do a joint obituary.


Sounds like his family is blaming the stepdaughter
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 20:01     Subject: Re:Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:Funny, if this happened in NE or SE it would barely be mentioned on the news or DCUM. Looks like someone needs to check their white privilege and suburbanite card?


Triple plus 1
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 19:57     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe all the apologists for this murderer just because the victims were apparently liberal. Do you Trump people think Nazi beliefs are OK?


No but you Democrats aren't going to get anywhere by screaming "Racist! Nazi!" at everyone who disagrees with you politically.



Seems appropriate to call those defending this shooter and blaming the mom "nazis".

I would have done exactly what the mom did. I am not afraid to confront and out bigots.


Well, maybe you should be. There is a 10 year old without parents now. I’m sure he wishes his parents had found another way.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 19:56     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe all the apologists for this murderer just because the victims were apparently liberal. Do you Trump people think Nazi beliefs are OK?


This. I don't care about the politics of anyone but the shooter, since those politics apparently had something to do with his crime. I truly hope this is just crazy trolls who are defending the shooter or criticizing the victims. If these sentiments are actually coming from this website's intended demographic (DC area parents), I weep for this community.


Who is defending what this shooter did? Seriously, find the post where anyone is "excusing" what this young man did?

People are saying that the parents of the boy should not be automatically assigned guilt by association. None of us have a clue what those people did or did not do.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 19:55     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.


She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.



Because no one hates Nazism except liberals.


And a mentally ill teen with a bunch of toxic nonsense in his head is history repeating itself.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 19:49     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.


She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.



Because no one hates Nazism except liberals.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2017 19:41     Subject: Shooting in Reston

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe all the apologists for this murderer just because the victims were apparently liberal. Do you Trump people think Nazi beliefs are OK?


No but you Democrats aren't going to get anywhere by screaming "Racist! Nazi!" at everyone who disagrees with you politically.



Seems appropriate to call those defending this shooter and blaming the mom "nazis".

I would have done exactly what the mom did. I am not afraid to confront and out bigots.