Anonymous wrote:The government to me is grossly responsible for he epidemic. If it was treated like medical marijuana so that only those chronically in sever pain can get it then I do believe it would dramatically reduce the quantity out there for sale. But no the government is in bed with the big pharmaceutical giants so highly doubt that will happen anytime in my lifetime.

Agree

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I think until you've experienced truly horrific pain, you may not have a good perspective. Proper pain management is in fact required for recovery. I don't think my friend who just got split from neck to belly button for heart surgery should have to go without adequate pain relief. The real problem is discharging patients with inappropriate prescriptions and types of pain meds.

+1.

If my body is covered in third degree burns I hope to God my doctors will have the compassion to put me on Dilaudid 24/7.

A lot of people talking about how opiates shouldn't be used for chronic pain have never experienced pain that has destroyed their quality of life. The sad thing is that people abusing these drugs has caused many others to suffer in pain because few doctors prescribe opiates for long term users anymore.

IV dilaudid is so amazing that any person taking that drug would immediately realize that chasing a high with that drug is a really bad idea.

Chronic pain just don't come one day. It is a signal that your body sends you for abusing your body for years either by eating some bad food, not exercising, etc. Therefore, it is a result of your life choices. Pain medication is not going to cure your chronic pain, it is not going to go any where until you make a life style changes.

Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about. I almost envy you for being so uninformed on this topic, clearly you haven't dealt with real chronic pain

+1. Can PP please tell me what I have done to bring on migraines and cluster headaches for the past 25 years? She must know something that my ivy educated neurologist doesn't.

The government to me is grossly responsible for he epidemic. If it was treated like medical marijuana so that only those chronically in sever pain can get it then I do believe it would dramatically reduce the quantity out there for sale. But no the government is in bed with the big pharmaceutical giants so highly doubt that will happen anytime in my lifetime.

Re: chronic pain and opioids. There are situations where nothing else will help. However, there are many instances where better treatment (often medication and PT/exercise options) could make them unnecessary except perhaps for very occasional use.

I frequent a forum for an inherited, progressive disease that is known to be quite painful. As with most disorders, there is a wide range of variability, but the worst hit tend to frequent boards. In the last couple of months a new poster has appeared who is a HUGE advocate of hydrocodone and soma for daily use. He makes a point of saying his doctor is totally on board. He is usually the first to post when a new poster starts a thread about pain, offering his views on how totally useless NSAIDs are.

There have been a number of exchanges where other forum members suggest alternatives to his medical cocktail, and he gets incensed that they are questioning the supremacy of opioids for treatment. Ironically, he has posted about GI problems and refuses to believe his opioid use could be implicated.

Clearly, a lot more education among both doctors and patients about opioids is needed.

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I think until you've experienced truly horrific pain, you may not have a good perspective. Proper pain management is in fact required for recovery. I don't think my friend who just got split from neck to belly button for heart surgery should have to go without adequate pain relief. The real problem is discharging patients with inappropriate prescriptions and types of pain meds.

+1.

If my body is covered in third degree burns I hope to God my doctors will have the compassion to put me on Dilaudid 24/7.

Mtheu out you in a medically induced coma. I know from experience.

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I think until you've experienced truly horrific pain, you may not have a good perspective. Proper pain management is in fact required for recovery. I don't think my friend who just got split from neck to belly button for heart surgery should have to go without adequate pain relief. The real problem is discharging patients with inappropriate prescriptions and types of pain meds.

+1.

If my body is covered in third degree burns I hope to God my doctors will have the compassion to put me on Dilaudid 24/7.

A lot of people talking about how opiates shouldn't be used for chronic pain have never experienced pain that has destroyed their quality of life. The sad thing is that people abusing these drugs has caused many others to suffer in pain because few doctors prescribe opiates for long term users anymore.

IV dilaudid is so amazing that any person taking that drug would immediately realize that chasing a high with that drug is a really bad idea.

Chronic pain just don't come one day. It is a signal that your body sends you for abusing your body for years either by eating some bad food, not exercising, etc. Therefore, it is a result of your life choices. Pain medication is not going to cure your chronic pain, it is not going to go any where until you make a life style changes.

Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about. I almost envy you for being so uninformed on this topic, clearly you haven't dealt with real chronic pain

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I think until you've experienced truly horrific pain, you may not have a good perspective. Proper pain management is in fact required for recovery. I don't think my friend who just got split from neck to belly button for heart surgery should have to go without adequate pain relief. The real problem is discharging patients with inappropriate prescriptions and types of pain meds.

+1.

If my body is covered in third degree burns I hope to God my doctors will have the compassion to put me on Dilaudid 24/7.

A lot of people talking about how opiates shouldn't be used for chronic pain have never experienced pain that has destroyed their quality of life. The sad thing is that people abusing these drugs has caused many others to suffer in pain because few doctors prescribe opiates for long term users anymore.

IV dilaudid is so amazing that any person taking that drug would immediately realize that chasing a high with that drug is a really bad idea.

Chronic pain just don't come one day. It is a signal that your body sends you for abusing your body for years either by eating some bad food, not exercising, etc. Therefore, it is a result of your life choices. Pain medication is not going to cure your chronic pain, it is not going to go any where until you make a life style changes.

This is really ignorant. I have a disease that is genetic and progressive. Ive experienced different levels of pain every day for 8 years. I'm not overweight, I exercise and eat well. However, I experience painful flares despite being on medication. These flares make it difficult for me to work and care for my kids. My doctor won't prescribe pain medicine unless the pain wakes me up at night. I can't take NSAIDS so I just have to live with it and spend a lot of time in bed on ice and heat.

People don't ask to be in pain. Have some compassion and awareness before making generalizations.

This - chronic pain is caused by numerous conditions - many autoimmune or infectious - NO fault of the patient!

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I think until you've experienced truly horrific pain, you may not have a good perspective. Proper pain management is in fact required for recovery. I don't think my friend who just got split from neck to belly button for heart surgery should have to go without adequate pain relief. The real problem is discharging patients with inappropriate prescriptions and types of pain meds.

+1.

If my body is covered in third degree burns I hope to God my doctors will have the compassion to put me on Dilaudid 24/7.

A lot of people talking about how opiates shouldn't be used for chronic pain have never experienced pain that has destroyed their quality of life. The sad thing is that people abusing these drugs has caused many others to suffer in pain because few doctors prescribe opiates for long term users anymore.

IV dilaudid is so amazing that any person taking that drug would immediately realize that chasing a high with that drug is a really bad idea.

Chronic pain just don't come one day. It is a signal that your body sends you for abusing your body for years either by eating some bad food, not exercising, etc. Therefore, it is a result of your life choices. Pain medication is not going to cure your chronic pain, it is not going to go any where until you make a life style changes.

This is really ignorant. I have a disease that is genetic and progressive. Ive experienced different levels of pain every day for 8 years. I'm not overweight, I exercise and eat well. However, I experience painful flares despite being on medication. These flares make it difficult for me to work and care for my kids. My doctor won't prescribe pain medicine unless the pain wakes me up at night. I can't take NSAIDS so I just have to live with it and spend a lot of time in bed on ice and heat.

People don't ask to be in pain. Have some compassion and awareness before making generalizations.

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I think until you've experienced truly horrific pain, you may not have a good perspective. Proper pain management is in fact required for recovery. I don't think my friend who just got split from neck to belly button for heart surgery should have to go without adequate pain relief. The real problem is discharging patients with inappropriate prescriptions and types of pain meds.

+1.

If my body is covered in third degree burns I hope to God my doctors will have the compassion to put me on Dilaudid 24/7.

A lot of people talking about how opiates shouldn't be used for chronic pain have never experienced pain that has destroyed their quality of life. The sad thing is that people abusing these drugs has caused many others to suffer in pain because few doctors prescribe opiates for long term users anymore.

IV dilaudid is so amazing that any person taking that drug would immediately realize that chasing a high with that drug is a really bad idea.

Chronic pain just don't come one day. It is a signal that your body sends you for abusing your body for years either by eating some bad food, not exercising, etc. Therefore, it is a result of your life choices. Pain medication is not going to cure your chronic pain, it is not going to go any where until you make a life style changes.

Anonymous wrote:It is the fetanyl from China that has the death rates soaring. So very scary, no one is exempt- it crosses all border, cultures, religions and socioeconomic groups.

This - a friend's' son was buying on the dark web and OD'd a year ago. Parents had no clue - it is easy to miss.