Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had an interesting discussion today with a legal immigrant from Central America. She is incredibly intelligent, hard working and a student of history. Her take is that Hillary is completely untrustworthy and would be a disaster for the country as Hillary is all about Hillary. Trump is a pompous ass but is the only one who has the courage to say what needs to be said particularly regarding immigration. She less concerned about ISIS than the gang members from her country that sneaking into the US and bringing their violence and corruption with them. She said it is unfortunate that Trump's delivery mechanism is overshadowing his message and is thus, too divisive but she 100% believes the U.S. needs to do a better job of managing the flow of illegal immigrants and needs to more closely monitor work visas that are destroying the job market for too many Americans (e.g., tech field). She also thinks we need to terminate policies that are pushing American jobs oversees and stop bombing the hell out of the Middle East. It was an interesting discussion coming from someone with a very different life experience.
another Latino immigrant here, and i agree with your friend in most points
I am not saying I agree that they are voting against there best interests. However, it may be hard for you to believe, but some people vote for the good of the nation and not what they believe to best for them individually. Novel idea, huh?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Come with me to the small towns of Pennsylvania or hang out with the guys taking a smoke break at our warehouse in Beltsville, MD. You'll meet them.
And, yes, they know what you think of them. Your ignorant criticisms of their lives and choices only confirm their support of Trump.
thank fuck these are precisely the people who are losing life expectancy, as shown by the deaton paper.
NP here - I grew up in small town Pennsylvania and can confirm 100% that the support for Trump comes from small-mindedness, lack of vision, most people never went beyond high school and their interests are mainly just limited to sports and hunting, their world view mainly just comes from TV and movies.
If the people you're describing are hard-working, honest, and doing their best to take care of their families, your criticism of them reflects poorly on you, despite our "open-mindedness and vision."
Where it comes to choices of politicians and ideologies they certainly are NOT doing the best to take care of their families.
Anonymous wrote:I can't see myself voting for Trump but what is refreshing about him is that he speaks his mind.
He really does not care what others think unlike most of the candidates who are doing well who poll test just about everything of any consequence before saying it.
Anonymous wrote:I think there is a large section of the populace on both sides of the aisle who are fed up with Washington elites ignoring the will of their constituents. Their ego and elitism makes them believe they know what is best for the peons and people have had it up to their ears with the paternalism. People are just plain fed up and sadly, that is what has given rise to Trump. I fear a lot of people will "pull the lever" for Trump in the privacy of the voting booth. Personally I cannot believe that this is the best that both parties have to offer. An old, untrustworthy white woman and an old socialist on one side (heavy on the old in both cases) and a lunatic, a Christian fanatic and a host of diversity without substance on the other. At this point I do not see anyone I could vote for in good conscience. I hope one of the candidates can change my mind as I have never missed a national election and have crossed back and forth across the aisle many times. It is time to take the leadership of both parties to task as, imho, they are not only destroying their parties, they are destroying the country.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is a silent majority or at least sizable population that privately agrees with him.
I think you are right. I think many people support his ideas or at least his stance on immigration, refugees, and terrorists even if they don't admit it. They may end up voting for him at the polls and never admit they support him. Even as a liberal that Byrd for Obama twice, some of the things he says make sense to me.
Anonymous wrote:I had an interesting discussion today with a legal immigrant from Central America. She is incredibly intelligent, hard working and a student of history. Her take is that Hillary is completely untrustworthy and would be a disaster for the country as Hillary is all about Hillary. Trump is a pompous ass but is the only one who has the courage to say what needs to be said particularly regarding immigration. She less concerned about ISIS than the gang members from her country that sneaking into the US and bringing their violence and corruption with them. She said it is unfortunate that Trump's delivery mechanism is overshadowing his message and is thus, too divisive but she 100% believes the U.S. needs to do a better job of managing the flow of illegal immigrants and needs to more closely monitor work visas that are destroying the job market for too many Americans (e.g., tech field). She also thinks we need to terminate policies that are pushing American jobs oversees and stop bombing the hell out of the Middle East. It was an interesting discussion coming from someone with a very different life experience.
I think there is a large section of the populace on both sides of the aisle who are fed up with Washington elites ignoring the will of their constituents. Their ego and elitism makes them believe they know what is best for the peons and people have had it up to their ears with the paternalism. People are just plain fed up and sadly, that is what has given rise to Trump. I fear a lot of people will "pull the lever" for Trump in the privacy of the voting booth. Personally I cannot believe that this is the best that both parties have to offer. An old, untrustworthy white woman and an old socialist on one side (heavy on the old in both cases) and a lunatic, a Christian fanatic and a host of diversity without substance on the other. At this point I do not see anyone I could vote for in good conscience. I hope one of the candidates can change my mind as I have never missed a national election and have crossed back and forth across the aisle many times. It is time to take the leadership of both parties to task as, imho, they are not only destroying their parties, they are destroying the country.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is a silent majority or at least sizable population that privately agrees with him.
I think you are right. I think many people support his ideas or at least his stance on immigration, refugees, and terrorists even if they don't admit it. They may end up voting for him at the polls and never admit they support him. Even as a liberal that Byrd for Obama twice, some of the things he says make sense to me.
Anonymous wrote:I believe there is a silent majority or at least sizable population that privately agrees with him.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Come with me to the small towns of Pennsylvania or hang out with the guys taking a smoke break at our warehouse in Beltsville, MD. You'll meet them.
And, yes, they know what you think of them. Your ignorant criticisms of their lives and choices only confirm their support of Trump.
thank fuck these are precisely the people who are losing life expectancy, as shown by the deaton paper.
NP here - I grew up in small town Pennsylvania and can confirm 100% that the support for Trump comes from small-mindedness, lack of vision, most people never went beyond high school and their interests are mainly just limited to sports and hunting, their world view mainly just comes from TV and movies.
If the people you're describing are hard-working, honest, and doing their best to take care of their families, your criticism of them reflects poorly on you, despite our "open-mindedness and vision."
Where it comes to choices of politicians and ideologies they certainly are NOT doing the best to take care of their families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can tell he's a leader. The entire establishment who have put the country 20 billion in debt and lose every war and agreement are all going insane.
Trump 2016!!
Can you tell me how he will do this exactly? I can absolutely get behind a candidate with a clear plan to do so.
Listen we don't need any more politicians with "twelve point plans" that they will never be able to follow anyway. We need someon with decisiveness and know how. He'll figure it out as he goes along. Like George W.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Come with me to the small towns of Pennsylvania or hang out with the guys taking a smoke break at our warehouse in Beltsville, MD. You'll meet them.
And, yes, they know what you think of them. Your ignorant criticisms of their lives and choices only confirm their support of Trump.
thank fuck these are precisely the people who are losing life expectancy, as shown by the deaton paper.
NP here - I grew up in small town Pennsylvania and can confirm 100% that the support for Trump comes from small-mindedness, lack of vision, most people never went beyond high school and their interests are mainly just limited to sports and hunting, their world view mainly just comes from TV and movies.
If the people you're describing are hard-working, honest, and doing their best to take care of their families, your criticism of them reflects poorly on you, despite our "open-mindedness and vision."