Anonymous wrote:second grade teacher in a center school. i would say that most everything i read here is wrong. about gbrs, wisc, cogat, and nnat. parents are so worried and other parents are so full of misinformation...

As a parent, I have no where else to go for information. My school does not hold an aap information meeting. Our AART is part time and extremely cryptic. The second grade teachers have a policy of not discussing aap with the parents. So I feel like walking around on eggshells at school trying to figure out what to do or how to do it. My child's group scores from school are not the best. They're ok. We had dc individually tested to see if appealing was the right option because we didn't have anyone else to talk to at the school. The psychologist convinced us that dc needs this program. GBRS was okay, not exceptional, so I don't know if that means the teacher supports or not. my child is shy so dc might not stand out.

I think parents here are just trying to help other parents, based on things they've heard, or based on what they've gone through. It would be easier if our schools were being more informative. Maybe your school is, but mine definitely is not.

Troll...kid with high NNAT, high GBRS, ok CogAT, and not in.

Anonymous wrote:scores are most important. high scores overcome low gbrs. over 140 on nnat or equivalent on new cogat mean acceptance, if not initially then on appeal. 130 or higher wisc means accepted. i have had kids with gbrs of 6 and high scores with no work samples get in. i hava also had every kid with 125 plus cogat or 132 nnat get in as long as i supported them.

How about when kids are not supported by the teacher (i.e. low GBRS)? Do great scores still count in such cases? Can they get in just with strong scores (incl. WISC)?

scores are most important. high scores overcome low gbrs. over 140 on nnat or equivalent on new cogat mean acceptance, if not initially then on appeal. 130 or higher wisc means accepted. i have had kids with gbrs of 6 and high scores with no work samples get in. i hava also had every kid with 125 plus cogat or 132 nnat get in as long as i supported them.

Anonymous wrote:second grade teacher in a center school. i would say that most everything i read here is wrong. about gbrs, wisc, cogat, and nnat. parents are so worried and other parents are so full of misinformation...

Please enlighten us then! What would you like parents to know or what would be helpful for us to keep in mind?

20:59- I would say in but but were the other scores?

second grade teacher in a center school. i would say that most everything i read here is wrong. about gbrs, wisc, cogat, and nnat. parents are so worried and other parents are so full of misinformation...

GBRS = 12; FSIQ = 134 chances on appeal?

[quote=Anonymous]For appeal, Why GBRS is accounted for? that will become existing doc in file. We already submitted Parents questionnaire can we submit again as part of aap appeal process.[/quote]


The way I read the instructions, the parent questionnaire you included in your original application is already in the file. You can't submit another, though it does sound like parents on here have submitted a letter with new information if they have it.

For appeal, Why GBRS is accounted for? that will become existing doc in file. We already submitted Parents questionnaire can we submit again as part of aap appeal process.

If you have watched the SB work sessions, SB meetings or attended any of the AAP meetings you would get this prevailing wisdom. The SB has made a big point about this which is why they ordered a review of the entire AAP program. That report is due in June.

Anonymous wrote:14:41 here. I don't want to be totally negative, so I will say that in the "good old days" (AKA last year) a Full Scale IQ of 130 would have generally pulled out a win on appeal over a GBRS 10. The fact that the VCI is so low, and that the prevailing wisdom is the committee (on directions from the School Board) is trying to scale back the numbers of eligibles this year, makes me think your chances are less than 50:50. That said, you can still hope, because despite the low VCI, your kid got a decent Full Scale (130).

By prevailing wisdom, you mean this website? or sources other than the DCUM echo chamber. I've seen this point made here but little corrobarative info.

I think he/she will get in.

PS Please report back and let us know how the appeal goes. I will be interested in knowing. Good luck.

14:41 here. I don't want to be totally negative, so I will say that in the "good old days" (AKA last year) a Full Scale IQ of 130 would have generally pulled out a win on appeal over a GBRS 10. The fact that the VCI is so low, and that the prevailing wisdom is the committee (on directions from the School Board) is trying to scale back the numbers of eligibles this year, makes me think your chances are less than 50:50. That said, you can still hope, because despite the low VCI, your kid got a decent Full Scale (130).