Anonymous wrote:Lol how old are you people on this thread? Of course Zach Bryan is a country artist. A huge one at that and he’s been nominated for several CMAs.

And it’s ridiculous to think that country artist don’t sell big, they are some of the biggest selling artists ever.

Keith Urban is just not one of the biggest by any metric.

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Anonymous wrote:Objectively Keith Urban is not that successful though I wouldn’t call him unsuccessful. He sold in his whole career about 17 million albums globally - while that’s a lot of albums, when you look at other artists who were selling albums at a time when people were actually buying albums, that’s not a lot.

For reference, if you’re at all up on the Bad Bunny Super Bowl thread happening now, Bad Bunny started seven years ago and has sold over 100 million albums.

I’m not bashing Keith Urban because hey, I’ve sold zero albums so good on him, but he’s been around a long time and to only have that number of album sales means he’s a moderate success.

Keith is just a country music artist, so there’s a limited pool of album buyers. It’s not an apples to apples comparison with Bad Bunny’s album sales since he’s a crossover artist who appeals to pop, rock, rap fans in both Spanish speaking, English speaking, and other countries.

Country artists aren’t ever as big as crossover artists—which is why Taylor Swift branched out to pop music.

Honestly, not trying to be rude, but you just have no idea what you are talking about. Country music is a huge genre and a big portion of the country buys it. Zach Bryan, a young guy who has really just started has already sold 30 million albums.

Carrie Underwood, a woman in country which has an even higher uphill climb, has sold 85 million albums. country albums are some of the best selling. For KU to be in this genre and to be in it so long it only hit 17 million he simply just not that successful.

Honestly, I am a country music fan.

Carrie Underwood is a crossover artist with pop hits.

Zach Bryan is an anomaly. A lot of his songs sound like the alternative music I listened to in college, and unsurprisingly he found fame with college and then high school students. He rode the college campus/college bar wave starting in southern areas before playing stadiums across the country. Again: anomaly.

Urban has never hit that level.

Regardless, Bad Bunny has a much wider global audience that transcends language.

Keith Urban is a well known musician and celebrity, with a reported net worth of 114 million dollars. Please stop with the, he " has never hit that level." It's ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Careers of celebrities wax and wane, they always have. He may be in a downturn and yes it may be hitting him hard and affecting his choices. But I don't think it's rare, it's just part of the cycle, he's been in the business for decades and is almost 60. It's difficult and probably very painful. She's alluded to feeling roles got more difficult to get from her forties on...these are two celebrities that are probably having great difficulty aging. Maybe they were both in their respective crises at the same time and couldn't help each other through it. She's mourning her mother he may be mourning other things...Their pursuit of having to stay and appear
relevant and young is intense for this couple. It's sad in a way.

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Anonymous wrote:Careers of celebrities wax and wane, they always have. He may be in a downturn and yes it may be hitting him hard and affecting his choices. But I don't think it's rare, it's just part of the cycle, he's been in the business for decades and is almost 60. It's difficult and probably very painful. She's alluded to feeling roles got more difficult to get from her forties on...these are two celebrities that are probably having great difficulty aging. Maybe they were both in their respective crises at the same time and couldn't help each other through it. She's mourning her mother he may be mourning other things...Their pursuit of having to stay and appear
relevant and young is intense for this couple. It's sad in a way.

Ok. Best post of the thread. Add in conflict over her role in babygirl.

Anonymous wrote:She cheated on Cruise during Moulin Rouge, she likely cheated on this dude during something else.

Anonymous wrote:Careers of celebrities wax and wane, they always have. He may be in a downturn and yes it may be hitting him hard and affecting his choices. But I don't think it's rare, it's just part of the cycle, he's been in the business for decades and is almost 60. It's difficult and probably very painful. She's alluded to feeling roles got more difficult to get from her forties on...these are two celebrities that are probably having great difficulty aging. Maybe they were both in their respective crises at the same time and couldn't help each other through it. She's mourning her mother he may be mourning other things...Their pursuit of having to stay and appear
relevant and young is intense for this couple. It's sad in a way.

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Anonymous wrote:Babygirl was the last straw.

Now being “reported” by PageSix. But dcum could be their source, tbh.

This is flimsy reporting at best. And once more seems to be coming from her camp.

It’s certainly not a news report but it’s the only tidbit that doesn’t sound like it came directly from her camp. And he didn’t attend the premiers or other press she did for babygirl and he shut down interviews that asked about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Objectively Keith Urban is not that successful though I wouldn’t call him unsuccessful. He sold in his whole career about 17 million albums globally - while that’s a lot of albums, when you look at other artists who were selling albums at a time when people were actually buying albums, that’s not a lot.

For reference, if you’re at all up on the Bad Bunny Super Bowl thread happening now, Bad Bunny started seven years ago and has sold over 100 million albums.

I’m not bashing Keith Urban because hey, I’ve sold zero albums so good on him, but he’s been around a long time and to only have that number of album sales means he’s a moderate success.

Keith is just a country music artist, so there’s a limited pool of album buyers. It’s not an apples to apples comparison with Bad Bunny’s album sales since he’s a crossover artist who appeals to pop, rock, rap fans in both Spanish speaking, English speaking, and other countries.

Country artists aren’t ever as big as crossover artists—which is why Taylor Swift branched out to pop music.

Honestly, not trying to be rude, but you just have no idea what you are talking about. Country music is a huge genre and a big portion of the country buys it. Zach Bryan, a young guy who has really just started has already sold 30 million albums.

Carrie Underwood, a woman in country which has an even higher uphill climb, has sold 85 million albums. country albums are some of the best selling. For KU to be in this genre and to be in it so long it only hit 17 million he simply just not that successful.

Honestly, I am a country music fan.

Carrie Underwood is a crossover artist with pop hits.

Zach Bryan is an anomaly. A lot of his songs sound like the alternative music I listened to in college, and unsurprisingly he found fame with college and then high school students. He rode the college campus/college bar wave starting in southern areas before playing stadiums across the country. Again: anomaly.

Urban has never hit that level.

Regardless, Bad Bunny has a much wider global audience that transcends language.

Keith Urban is a well known musician and celebrity, with a reported net worth of 114 million dollars. Please stop with the, he " has never hit that level." It's ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Objectively Keith Urban is not that successful though I wouldn’t call him unsuccessful. He sold in his whole career about 17 million albums globally - while that’s a lot of albums, when you look at other artists who were selling albums at a time when people were actually buying albums, that’s not a lot.

For reference, if you’re at all up on the Bad Bunny Super Bowl thread happening now, Bad Bunny started seven years ago and has sold over 100 million albums.

I’m not bashing Keith Urban because hey, I’ve sold zero albums so good on him, but he’s been around a long time and to only have that number of album sales means he’s a moderate success.

Keith is just a country music artist, so there’s a limited pool of album buyers. It’s not an apples to apples comparison with Bad Bunny’s album sales since he’s a crossover artist who appeals to pop, rock, rap fans in both Spanish speaking, English speaking, and other countries.

Country artists aren’t ever as big as crossover artists—which is why Taylor Swift branched out to pop music.

Honestly, not trying to be rude, but you just have no idea what you are talking about. Country music is a huge genre and a big portion of the country buys it. Zach Bryan, a young guy who has really just started has already sold 30 million albums.

Carrie Underwood, a woman in country which has an even higher uphill climb, has sold 85 million albums. country albums are some of the best selling. For KU to be in this genre and to be in it so long it only hit 17 million he simply just not that successful.

Honestly, I am a country music fan.

Carrie Underwood is a crossover artist with pop hits.

Zach Bryan is an anomaly. A lot of his songs sound like the alternative music I listened to in college, and unsurprisingly he found fame with college and then high school students. He rode the college campus/college bar wave starting in southern areas before playing stadiums across the country. Again: anomaly.

Urban has never hit that level.

Regardless, Bad Bunny has a much wider global audience that transcends language.

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Anonymous wrote:Objectively Keith Urban is not that successful though I wouldn’t call him unsuccessful. He sold in his whole career about 17 million albums globally - while that’s a lot of albums, when you look at other artists who were selling albums at a time when people were actually buying albums, that’s not a lot.

For reference, if you’re at all up on the Bad Bunny Super Bowl thread happening now, Bad Bunny started seven years ago and has sold over 100 million albums.

I’m not bashing Keith Urban because hey, I’ve sold zero albums so good on him, but he’s been around a long time and to only have that number of album sales means he’s a moderate success.

Keith is just a country music artist, so there’s a limited pool of album buyers. It’s not an apples to apples comparison with Bad Bunny’s album sales since he’s a crossover artist who appeals to pop, rock, rap fans in both Spanish speaking, English speaking, and other countries.

Country artists aren’t ever as big as crossover artists—which is why Taylor Swift branched out to pop music.

Honestly, not trying to be rude, but you just have no idea what you are talking about. Country music is a huge genre and a big portion of the country buys it. Zach Bryan, a young guy who has really just started has already sold 30 million albums.

Carrie Underwood, a woman in country which has an even higher uphill climb, has sold 85 million albums. country albums are some of the best selling. For KU to be in this genre and to be in it so long it only hit 17 million he simply just not that successful.