Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I literally can’t fathom arguing that a giant portrait of hitler is appropriate. What if the assignment was famous symbols and they painted a swastika? This is not an art project for elementary middle or ever at any stage in school!

Local Jewish leaders used to want all kids in the DC area to go on field trips to the Holocaust Museum in middle or high school to teach them about the dangers of anti-Semitism. Do you think kids don't see pictures of Hitler or swastikas there?

Or are we in full censorship mode now in Amerikka, with people so drunk on their new-found ability to crack down on others who don't subscribe to their far-right and Zionist agendas that they just love hunting for new targets every week?

Why do you keep bringing up Zionism and Israel in a discussion about antisemitism? There is zero indication that anyone involved in this complaint has any Zionist inclinations whatsoever. The kids who bullied this girl by screaming that she was an “Israeli baby killer” have an excuse - they’re 11. What’s your excuse?

Also, do you imagine that on these field trips to the Holocaust Museum (which, just FYI, contains a very thoughtfully done children’s exhibit that does not feature photos of Hitler) the kids are asked to draw portraits of Hitler? Or to reproduce Nazi imagery in any way?

Again, if you want to be a free speech absolutist go right ahead. A Jewish ACLU attorney famously defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie. An ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is not the place for that sh*t though. And you claiming the parents here are being oversensitive and demanding special treatment and (most bizarrely) disregarding the feelings of other marginalized groups - that lets me know that you’re just a garden variety antisemite yourself.

The people trying to make this into a huge deal very much fit the pro-Zionist mode. Any possible incident that can be made out as anti-Semitic gets treated as an opportunity to push a right-wing, pro-Israel agenda and cancel any critics.

If Israel wasn’t behaving so atrociously on the global stage, there wouldn’t be local incidents of this nature.

It’s so crazy to me that that last sentence was basically the HOS’s response on instagram. He classified the severe bullying as “unkind comments” and then attributed it to “the ongoing conflict in Gaza.” Literally why else bring up Gaza at all if not to minimize the culpability of those involved?

Can you imagine if, after 9/11, a Muslim student was severely bullied, and in response, the school posted a message saying “9/11 has impacted our students in deeply personal and emotional ways”? So wildly inappropriate. And that was an event that took place in DC, not halfway across the world.

Also, in a seven paragraph statement full of self-serving bullsh*t, you couldn’t see your way clear to condemn antisemitism even ONCE? Literally, the word antisemitism does not appear. Just generic “we condemn all hate.”

If I was the plaintiffs’ lawyer I’d be thanking my lucky stars right now.

DP. Fwiw, the situation in Gaza is threatening the accreditation of Columbia University and has cost our preeminent colleges and universities billions, literally billions, in science and research grants. But you think it's unrealistic for a private K-8 school to struggle a bit with the issue? Saying "unkind words" seems like a good way to describe children who may learn, rather than permanently dismiss them as irredeemable.

The situation in Gaza is not threatening the accreditation at Columbia and you know that. It's the extreme behavior of the students that crossed the line repeatedly and we can save that discussion for the political board. The situation at Nysmith is concerning and I will be following the case closely because sadly I am hearing and reading there is a widespread problem in k-12 private and public schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I literally can’t fathom arguing that a giant portrait of hitler is appropriate. What if the assignment was famous symbols and they painted a swastika? This is not an art project for elementary middle or ever at any stage in school!

Local Jewish leaders used to want all kids in the DC area to go on field trips to the Holocaust Museum in middle or high school to teach them about the dangers of anti-Semitism. Do you think kids don't see pictures of Hitler or swastikas there?

Or are we in full censorship mode now in Amerikka, with people so drunk on their new-found ability to crack down on others who don't subscribe to their far-right and Zionist agendas that they just love hunting for new targets every week?

Why do you keep bringing up Zionism and Israel in a discussion about antisemitism? There is zero indication that anyone involved in this complaint has any Zionist inclinations whatsoever. The kids who bullied this girl by screaming that she was an “Israeli baby killer” have an excuse - they’re 11. What’s your excuse?

Also, do you imagine that on these field trips to the Holocaust Museum (which, just FYI, contains a very thoughtfully done children’s exhibit that does not feature photos of Hitler) the kids are asked to draw portraits of Hitler? Or to reproduce Nazi imagery in any way?

Again, if you want to be a free speech absolutist go right ahead. A Jewish ACLU attorney famously defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie. An ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is not the place for that sh*t though. And you claiming the parents here are being oversensitive and demanding special treatment and (most bizarrely) disregarding the feelings of other marginalized groups - that lets me know that you’re just a garden variety antisemite yourself.

The people trying to make this into a huge deal very much fit the pro-Zionist mode. Any possible incident that can be made out as anti-Semitic gets treated as an opportunity to push a right-wing, pro-Israel agenda and cancel any critics.

If Israel wasn’t behaving so atrociously on the global stage, there wouldn’t be local incidents of this nature.

It’s so crazy to me that that last sentence was basically the HOS’s response on instagram. He classified the severe bullying as “unkind comments” and then attributed it to “the ongoing conflict in Gaza.” Literally why else bring up Gaza at all if not to minimize the culpability of those involved?

Can you imagine if, after 9/11, a Muslim student was severely bullied, and in response, the school posted a message saying “9/11 has impacted our students in deeply personal and emotional ways”? So wildly inappropriate. And that was an event that took place in DC, not halfway across the world.

Also, in a seven paragraph statement full of self-serving bullsh*t, you couldn’t see your way clear to condemn antisemitism even ONCE? Literally, the word antisemitism does not appear. Just generic “we condemn all hate.”

If I was the plaintiffs’ lawyer I’d be thanking my lucky stars right now.

DP. Fwiw, the situation in Gaza is threatening the accreditation of Columbia University and has cost our preeminent colleges and universities billions, literally billions, in science and research grants. But you think it's unrealistic for a private K-8 school to struggle a bit with the issue? Saying "unkind words" seems like a good way to describe children who may learn, rather than permanently dismiss them as irredeemable.

This is not that hard to reconcile, and I would assume someone who was so smart that his mommy made him a special school would be bright enough to get it:

1) President Trump, a noted antisemite, is using American Jews as scapegoats to attack liberal institutions such as universities and health research facilities;

2) He is doing this without political support from American Jews, who are reliable Democratic voters and who are disproportionately impacted by these cuts given the administration's concentration on institutions such a as Columbia with high numbers of Jewish students;

3) There is a terrible conflict going on in the Middle East, in which both the Government of Israel and the terrorist group Hamas are committing war crimes. On both sides, the victims are primarily civilians who are being ill-served by their leaders;

4) Neither Muslim nor Jewish children in the United States (or anywhere) should be targeted due to their religion/ethnicity, and anyone who defends bullying of children due to 3) above should not be allowed anywhere near a position of authority with regards to kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I literally can’t fathom arguing that a giant portrait of hitler is appropriate. What if the assignment was famous symbols and they painted a swastika? This is not an art project for elementary middle or ever at any stage in school!

Local Jewish leaders used to want all kids in the DC area to go on field trips to the Holocaust Museum in middle or high school to teach them about the dangers of anti-Semitism. Do you think kids don't see pictures of Hitler or swastikas there?

Or are we in full censorship mode now in Amerikka, with people so drunk on their new-found ability to crack down on others who don't subscribe to their far-right and Zionist agendas that they just love hunting for new targets every week?

Why do you keep bringing up Zionism and Israel in a discussion about antisemitism? There is zero indication that anyone involved in this complaint has any Zionist inclinations whatsoever. The kids who bullied this girl by screaming that she was an “Israeli baby killer” have an excuse - they’re 11. What’s your excuse?

Also, do you imagine that on these field trips to the Holocaust Museum (which, just FYI, contains a very thoughtfully done children’s exhibit that does not feature photos of Hitler) the kids are asked to draw portraits of Hitler? Or to reproduce Nazi imagery in any way?

Again, if you want to be a free speech absolutist go right ahead. A Jewish ACLU attorney famously defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie. An ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is not the place for that sh*t though. And you claiming the parents here are being oversensitive and demanding special treatment and (most bizarrely) disregarding the feelings of other marginalized groups - that lets me know that you’re just a garden variety antisemite yourself.

The people trying to make this into a huge deal very much fit the pro-Zionist mode. Any possible incident that can be made out as anti-Semitic gets treated as an opportunity to push a right-wing, pro-Israel agenda and cancel any critics.

If Israel wasn’t behaving so atrociously on the global stage, there wouldn’t be local incidents of this nature.

It’s so crazy to me that that last sentence was basically the HOS’s response on instagram. He classified the severe bullying as “unkind comments” and then attributed it to “the ongoing conflict in Gaza.” Literally why else bring up Gaza at all if not to minimize the culpability of those involved?

Can you imagine if, after 9/11, a Muslim student was severely bullied, and in response, the school posted a message saying “9/11 has impacted our students in deeply personal and emotional ways”? So wildly inappropriate. And that was an event that took place in DC, not halfway across the world.

Also, in a seven paragraph statement full of self-serving bullsh*t, you couldn’t see your way clear to condemn antisemitism even ONCE? Literally, the word antisemitism does not appear. Just generic “we condemn all hate.”

If I was the plaintiffs’ lawyer I’d be thanking my lucky stars right now.

DP. Fwiw, the situation in Gaza is threatening the accreditation of Columbia University and has cost our preeminent colleges and universities billions, literally billions, in science and research grants. But you think it's unrealistic for a private K-8 school to struggle a bit with the issue? Saying "unkind words" seems like a good way to describe children who may learn, rather than permanently dismiss them as irredeemable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna repeat this for the millionth time…

There are enough connected parents at Nysmith that if this assignment and the kids’ project had been a big deal at the time it happened, it would have gotten here and into the bloodstream WAY before now.

The way that a bunch of incompletely understood incidents is being masterfully woven together to create a narrative smacks of the Asra Nomani school of rage-farming.

Watching Jewish people use claims of anti-semitism to fall under the sway of a political party that harbors literal Nazis is genuinely terrifying and an object lesson as to how things unraveled in Europe in the late 1930s.

Most people, even us Jews, heck even these parents who made the complaint go along to get along until enough incidents happen. I'm sure quite a few eyebrows were raised over the Hitler drawing photo, but people take their time to gather evidence and few people want to rock the boat. These parents gathered information about other incidents and they tried to communicate and collaborate. If anything you do try to convince yourself it isn't antisemitism until you have enough evidence there is no denying it.

There have been countless news articles, but fascinating that you are so up in arms when a Muslim women reports on antisemitism and you feel the need to demonize her and discredit her.

Yes - and families at the school know you’ll be asked to leave if you complain so I’m sure there was some concern there too.

Anonymous wrote:Well, if I’ve learned nothing else from this thread, I’ve learned that anti-Semitic paranoia is not actually paranoia, but rather more real than it’s been in decades. The palpable and tangible bigotry in this thread is affirmation that modern Jews have plenty to fear, including from their fellow independent school parents who are progressive, as long is it’s White, Christian and conducive to their worldview.

Agree. As a Jew this thread is beyond depressing. So glad I’m moving my kids into a Jewish day school. Yes I realize it’s a bubble but at least it’s one where they are truly accepted.

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna repeat this for the millionth time…

There are enough connected parents at Nysmith that if this assignment and the kids’ project had been a big deal at the time it happened, it would have gotten here and into the bloodstream WAY before now.

The way that a bunch of incompletely understood incidents is being masterfully woven together to create a narrative smacks of the Asra Nomani school of rage-farming.

Watching Jewish people use claims of anti-semitism to fall under the sway of a political party that harbors literal Nazis is genuinely terrifying and an object lesson as to how things unraveled in Europe in the late 1930s.

Most people, even us Jews, heck even these parents who made the complaint go along to get along until enough incidents happen. I'm sure quite a few eyebrows were raised over the Hitler drawing photo, but people take their time to gather evidence and few people want to rock the boat. These parents gathered information about other incidents and they tried to communicate and collaborate. If anything you do try to convince yourself it isn't antisemitism until you have enough evidence there is no denying it.

There have been countless news articles, but fascinating that you are so up in arms when a Muslim women reports on antisemitism and you feel the need to demonize her and discredit her.

A big wave of folks applying out is coming.

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna repeat this for the millionth time…

There are enough connected parents at Nysmith that if this assignment and the kids’ project had been a big deal at the time it happened, it would have gotten here and into the bloodstream WAY before now.

The way that a bunch of incompletely understood incidents is being masterfully woven together to create a narrative smacks of the Asra Nomani school of rage-farming.

Watching Jewish people use claims of anti-semitism to fall under the sway of a political party that harbors literal Nazis is genuinely terrifying and an object lesson as to how things unraveled in Europe in the late 1930s.

Your last paragraph is an absolute nonsequitur….

Anonymous wrote:things we don’t know:

1) what the text was on the project - and if you don’t think that matters A LOT, you’re wrong

2) what, if any consequences were meted out to the kids who engaged in the bullying behavior - and we’ll probably never know that because it’s not really anyone’s business

3) how in the world this is *just now* a big deal when all of this went down four months ago and Nysmith parents aren’t exactly known for keeping their mouths shut

4) why the Holocaust speaker had their event cancelled beyond the boilerplate “divisiveness” - that’s not a reason

It was stated that the original speaker died, so instead of looking for a replacement speaker, the school just canceled the presentation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I literally can’t fathom arguing that a giant portrait of hitler is appropriate. What if the assignment was famous symbols and they painted a swastika? This is not an art project for elementary middle or ever at any stage in school!

Local Jewish leaders used to want all kids in the DC area to go on field trips to the Holocaust Museum in middle or high school to teach them about the dangers of anti-Semitism. Do you think kids don't see pictures of Hitler or swastikas there?

Or are we in full censorship mode now in Amerikka, with people so drunk on their new-found ability to crack down on others who don't subscribe to their far-right and Zionist agendas that they just love hunting for new targets every week?

Why do you keep bringing up Zionism and Israel in a discussion about antisemitism? There is zero indication that anyone involved in this complaint has any Zionist inclinations whatsoever. The kids who bullied this girl by screaming that she was an “Israeli baby killer” have an excuse - they’re 11. What’s your excuse?

Also, do you imagine that on these field trips to the Holocaust Museum (which, just FYI, contains a very thoughtfully done children’s exhibit that does not feature photos of Hitler) the kids are asked to draw portraits of Hitler? Or to reproduce Nazi imagery in any way?

Again, if you want to be a free speech absolutist go right ahead. A Jewish ACLU attorney famously defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie. An ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is not the place for that sh*t though. And you claiming the parents here are being oversensitive and demanding special treatment and (most bizarrely) disregarding the feelings of other marginalized groups - that lets me know that you’re just a garden variety antisemite yourself.

The people trying to make this into a huge deal very much fit the pro-Zionist mode. Any possible incident that can be made out as anti-Semitic gets treated as an opportunity to push a right-wing, pro-Israel agenda and cancel any critics.

If Israel wasn’t behaving so atrociously on the global stage, there wouldn’t be local incidents of this nature.

Ummm ok. Double standard much? Lots of Muslims killing each other places. I don’t see that as an excuse for Islamophobia? What?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna repeat this for the millionth time…

There are enough connected parents at Nysmith that if this assignment and the kids’ project had been a big deal at the time it happened, it would have gotten here and into the bloodstream WAY before now.

The way that a bunch of incompletely understood incidents is being masterfully woven together to create a narrative smacks of the Asra Nomani school of rage-farming.

Watching Jewish people use claims of anti-semitism to fall under the sway of a political party that harbors literal Nazis is genuinely terrifying and an object lesson as to how things unraveled in Europe in the late 1930s.

Huh? What does that last paragraph even mean? Trump may be using antisemitism as an excuse to beat up on liberal institutions he hates, but Jewish people are not doing….whatever it is you’re trying to claim. 78% of Jews voted democratic in the last election. Jews have always been the most consistently democratic voting block aside from black people (83% in the last election).

That PP does not care, PP. That PP will blame Jews no matter what. This is the viciousness of the progressive left on display.

Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna repeat this for the millionth time…

There are enough connected parents at Nysmith that if this assignment and the kids’ project had been a big deal at the time it happened, it would have gotten here and into the bloodstream WAY before now.

The way that a bunch of incompletely understood incidents is being masterfully woven together to create a narrative smacks of the Asra Nomani school of rage-farming.

Watching Jewish people use claims of anti-semitism to fall under the sway of a political party that harbors literal Nazis is genuinely terrifying and an object lesson as to how things unraveled in Europe in the late 1930s.

Huh? What does that last paragraph even mean? Trump may be using antisemitism as an excuse to beat up on liberal institutions he hates, but Jewish people are not doing….whatever it is you’re trying to claim. 78% of Jews voted democratic in the last election. Jews have always been the most consistently democratic voting block aside from black people (83% in the last election).

Anonymous wrote:Well, if I’ve learned nothing else from this thread, I’ve learned that anti-Semitic paranoia is not actually paranoia, but rather more real than it’s been in decades. The palpable and tangible bigotry in this thread is affirmation that modern Jews have plenty to fear, including from their fellow independent school parents who are progressive, as long is it’s White, Christian and conducive to their worldview.

+1 and I’m a Catholic.

I’m gonna repeat this for the millionth time…

There are enough connected parents at Nysmith that if this assignment and the kids’ project had been a big deal at the time it happened, it would have gotten here and into the bloodstream WAY before now.

The way that a bunch of incompletely understood incidents is being masterfully woven together to create a narrative smacks of the Asra Nomani school of rage-farming.

Watching Jewish people use claims of anti-semitism to fall under the sway of a political party that harbors literal Nazis is genuinely terrifying and an object lesson as to how things unraveled in Europe in the late 1930s.

Anonymous wrote:What a petty sanctimonious prick:

By March 13, Nysmith decided to expel all three Jewish family members from the school.
"After reflecting on our emotional conversation on Tuesday, the words used make it clear that you have a profound lack of trust in both me and the school," Nysmith wrote, according to a copy of the email included in the complaint. "I felt very clearly that you do not think Nysmith is the right school for your family, and the longer we try to ignore that reality, the more pain it will cause your children. With this in mind, I regret to inform you that today will be your children’s last day at Nysmith."

Source: https://freebeacon.com/america/prestigious-virginia-k-8-school-hit-with-civil-rights-complaint-over-environment-hostile-to-jews/

What a childish, immature response. Does anyone know Nysmith?