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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

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Anonymous wrote:I would highly recommend those that don't understand the context for what's happening in Gaza right now to read some of Jewish author Ilan Pappe's books.

There's a lot of propaganda, misinformation and deliberate lies that comes from the side of the colonizer/occupier/genocider in order to justify their own Holocaust. It's all over this thread just as it is in the media and elsewhere.

Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel, and The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of Gaza and the Occupied Territories are all excellently researched books that are both shocking and illuminating.

Some other books I would add to the list
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi
Anything by Norman Finkelstein
Genocide Bad by Sim Kern
On Palestine by Noam Chomsky

Some of the best books on the topic are written by Jewish/Israeli authors.

Thank you for this list. We as Americans need to educate ourselves on what’s going on over there. And glad to see these books were written by Jews. Everything is labeled as “antisemitic” if it criticizes Israel.

Oh please. Check out the post earlier about “Yiddish breath.” That’s pure unadulterated Jew hatred and yes, anti semitism, not nuanced and thoughtful criticism of a government.

Open your eyes to the hate. It’s right in front of you.

First, it was schlemiel breath.

Second, it was a response to you running your mouth and trying to discredit assertions by criticizing someone else’s writing style or clarity of thought or whatever. Didn’t bother to provide a response that addressed the merits of those assertions, but instead tried the lazy approach of trying to discredit.

When you gaslight or straw man or pull the usual obfuscation tactics to silence valid criticism of Israel’s policies and actions - and you do it in a writing style that pretty clearly suggests that English isn’t a primary language - you’re going to have to expect a response.

But at that point, it’s up to the sender of that response to choose whether or not to be gentle. And despite what you think or feel, it’s not anti-semitic to assume that someone is Jewish. And it’s also not anti-semitic to mock those who defend genocide and nations that repeatedly violate international law.

Lastly, there’s no hatred. Full stop.

I’m actually not Jewish, and yes it’s bias in your end that you assumed I was. I’m glad my response about watching our language in posts triggered you so badly that your mask slipped and exposed you for who you are: a pure anti Semite.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.

Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.

Fear of attack like what happened at a musical festival to innocent civilians?

Hmm …

What is the greater tragedy?

A. 1,125 dead Israelis, over 300 of whom were active duty security services and another several hundred of whom had served dishonorably in the IDF.

or

B. 35,000 dead women and children in Gaza, none of whom voted for Hamas.

No one buys Hamas’ reports of the number of dead in this conflict.

Even if it’s 1/2 of the reports (which I doubt)-that’s a whole lot of dead women and children in Gaza. Plus the foreign aid workers who the IDF accidentally killed as they tried to distribute food and medicine. So in your world the lives of 20k Palestinians are worth much less than 1,125 dead Israelis? There is a name for people who think that way….

I mean, the IDF targeted and bombed the World Central Kitchen workers THREE TIMES. The first strike didn’t kill everyone, so they got out of vans and fled and they were ALL ASSASINATED. And yet we as a loose group of Westerners did NOTHING to seek something like justice or even transparent answered for our nationals, who were there simply to provide food.

I used to be in these threads and the way pro-Netanyahu trolls live here just disgusts me. Nothing is enough. The goal is to kill all Palestinians in Gaza and pretend to have a moral high ground to have the US and other Western nations supply young soldiers, endless money and limitless weapons to Israel. Why? When is enough enough?

Unadulterated nonsense. This started with an evil act of terror on innocent civilians. It’s not pretending to have the moral high ground - no people capable of such atrocities as October 7 could have ever claimed it.

An evil act of terror that used pickup trucks and hot air balloons? Israel couldve stopped it and refused. They stopped missiles from Iran but couldn’t stop men without aircraft taking people by hand and foot? Israel couldve been at the Gaza border stopping the trucks Within seconds. Israel’s army commanders are also puzzled as to why Netanyahu put a pause to that.

Netanyahu wanted captives taken because he wanted a war to avoid going to jail or resignation.

Until Israelis face that truth, Hamas won’t be eliminated. Netanyahu wants them there

This.

Hamas is essentially an arm of Netanyahu's plan.

I find it insane that anyone thinks Hamas carried out the events of October 7th without complicity of the Israeli government.

This gives conspiracy theory a whole new name. Wow. This board gets more insane by the day.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

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Anonymous wrote:I would highly recommend those that don't understand the context for what's happening in Gaza right now to read some of Jewish author Ilan Pappe's books.

There's a lot of propaganda, misinformation and deliberate lies that comes from the side of the colonizer/occupier/genocider in order to justify their own Holocaust. It's all over this thread just as it is in the media and elsewhere.

Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel, and The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of Gaza and the Occupied Territories are all excellently researched books that are both shocking and illuminating.

Some other books I would add to the list
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi
Anything by Norman Finkelstein
Genocide Bad by Sim Kern
On Palestine by Noam Chomsky

Some of the best books on the topic are written by Jewish/Israeli authors.

Thank you for this list. We as Americans need to educate ourselves on what’s going on over there. And glad to see these books were written by Jews. Everything is labeled as “antisemitic” if it criticizes Israel.

Oh please. Check out the post earlier about “Yiddish breath.” That’s pure unadulterated Jew hatred and yes, anti semitism, not nuanced and thoughtful criticism of a government.

Open your eyes to the hate. It’s right in front of you.

First, it was schlemiel breath.

Second, it was a response to you running your mouth and trying to discredit assertions by criticizing someone else’s writing style or clarity of thought or whatever. Didn’t bother to provide a response that addressed the merits of those assertions, but instead tried the lazy approach of trying to discredit.

When you gaslight or straw man or pull the usual obfuscation tactics to silence valid criticism of Israel’s policies and actions - and you do it in a writing style that pretty clearly suggests that English isn’t a primary language - you’re going to have to expect a response.

But at that point, it’s up to the sender of that response to choose whether or not to be gentle. And despite what you think or feel, it’s not anti-semitic to assume that someone is Jewish. And it’s also not anti-semitic to mock those who defend genocide and nations that repeatedly violate international law.

Lastly, there’s no hatred. Full stop.

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Citation? What’s the education level attained? And of the women with 4-7 children each and where are they employed?

It’s common for the Gazan men to have multiple wives. Many have 20 children from the numerous wives.

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Citation? What’s the education level attained? And of the women with 4-7 children each and where are they employed?

It’s common for the Gazan men to have multiple wives. Many have 20 children from the numerous wives.

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Citation? What’s the education level attained? And of the women with 4-7 children each and where are they employed?

It’s common for the Gazan men to have multiple wives. Many have 20 children from the numerous wives.