Anonymous wrote:The intentions behind these protests are good. It would be effective in normal times - when lawmakers needed to care about the opinions of their constituents. Senators and representatives from around the country should see the mass amounts of people showing up at their capitol buildings and elsewhere around their states and take that as a signal to start listening. But that’s simply not gonna happen. Spending a Saturday afternoon holding clever signs will not cut it. The protests need to be unrelenting and localized. People need to go to DC. Surround the buildings these people are actually in. 24/7. In MASS numbers. From now until this ends. It needs to be something they can’t ignore. They need to be forced out of their holes.
Is this practical? Of course not. We have jobs and families and other obligations. But still, this is the only way to be effective…which is why nothing is going to change.
Anonymous wrote:Strike if you want, the next sign you’ll be carrying will say, “Will Work For Food”.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should have been the lead story for NYT/WashPo. Instead it’s on the front page but not the lead. And of course no where I Fox News.
I hope the organizers continue to do this and Dem leadership steps up too.
Sure it was:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371072617112
https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-rally-against-trump-musk-hands-off-gatherings-nationwide
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/woodstock-hands-off-protest-trump-musk
Typical FOX slant in your 2nd article
"Thousands of protesters gathered across the U.S. Saturday to object to Trump administration policies, including Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) federal downsizing, reciprocal tariffs and immigration reform:"
It was estimated at 5 million country wide and i went becauseTrump was traming on the Constitution and making the country less safe to attack as well as alienating our true allies to buddy up with Putin
While most protests appear to be peaceful, there was a large police presence on standby as of 4:30 p.m. ET Saturday"
let's be real,.this great piece of fear mongering hides the fact that the real threat of danger was from Trump supporters
And they end off the article by simping for Elon by mentioning the Tesla dealership fires.
Over 1,000 protests around the country and many of them were quite huge - NYC at well over 100,000, Boston's was huge, etc. Yes, millions is definitely likely nationwide but FOX spins it down to "thousands" and downplays. Typical.
I'm not finding any sources confirming your NYC numbers. And no news outlets have been citing a million total attendees (nor millions), including the organizers, who seem to be the only source suggesting more than half a million attendees:
AP: Thousands of protesters in cities dotting the nation from Midtown Manhattan to Anchorage, Alaska, including at multiple state capitols, assailed Trump and billionaire Elon Musk ‘s actions on government downsizing, the economy, immigration and human rights. On the West Coast, in the shadow of Seattle’s iconic Space Needle, protesters held signs with slogans like “Fight the oligarchy.” Protesters chanted as they took to the streets in Portland, Oregon, and Los Angeles, where they marched from Pershing Square to City Hall.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-doge-protests-hands-off-472c574303260cbac315367cc808960d
UPI: More than 500,000 people across the United States showed up to protests of President Donald Trump's "authoritarian overreach and billionaire-backed agenda" at more than 1,400 events nationwide, the largest protest since he became president again two months ago, organizers said.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2025/04/05/anti-Trump-protests-nationwide/6321743859607/
NYT: While crowd sizes are difficult to estimate, organizers said that more than 600,000 people had signed up to participate and that events also took place in U.S. territories and a dozen locations across the globe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/us/politics/anti-trump-protests-hands-off.html
WaPo: In their permit application to the National Park Service, rally organizers in D.C. said they anticipated a crowd of 10,000. By Friday night, though, the organizers said they expected at least 20,000. Saturday afternoon, they were estimating the crowd was five times as big as they predicted [ie, 100,000 in DC].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/04/05/hands-off-protest-trump-washington/
None of the above negates that these were large, global protests.
Organizers including 50501 are claiming 5.2 million. That’s roughly 2% of the adult population in the US. Studies show that at 3.5% you can affect real change. Next protests are April 19th!!
It's great to get that many people participating, but even if we reach that threshold, there has to be more than standing there with cute signs. Millions came out, myself included, but there seemed to be no clear demand, and the material result of the protest was...nothing. Trump went golfing and said he doesn't care.
That 3.5% threshold needs to be people doing something that actually threatens the people with power. A strike. Or a sustained protest that makes their lives difficult in some way. Standing around looking at each other's signs for a day on the weekend while Trump golfs isn't going to change anything. And I have my doubts that anywhere near 3.5% of the country is ready for a sustained general strike.
Strikes are very different from protests in a way that they have very clear set of demands and clear message. What is your message? I saw a bunch of signs, some look like they’ve been dug out from 2020 era. What specific demands do you have that if satisfied would end the strike?
I paid no more attention to the protests than I did a dead leaf I saw blowing down the street gutter.
Anonymous wrote:Strike if you want, the next sign you’ll be carrying will say, “Will Work For Food”.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should have been the lead story for NYT/WashPo. Instead it’s on the front page but not the lead. And of course no where I Fox News.
I hope the organizers continue to do this and Dem leadership steps up too.
Sure it was:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371072617112
https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-rally-against-trump-musk-hands-off-gatherings-nationwide
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/woodstock-hands-off-protest-trump-musk
Typical FOX slant in your 2nd article
"Thousands of protesters gathered across the U.S. Saturday to object to Trump administration policies, including Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) federal downsizing, reciprocal tariffs and immigration reform:"
It was estimated at 5 million country wide and i went becauseTrump was traming on the Constitution and making the country less safe to attack as well as alienating our true allies to buddy up with Putin
While most protests appear to be peaceful, there was a large police presence on standby as of 4:30 p.m. ET Saturday"
let's be real,.this great piece of fear mongering hides the fact that the real threat of danger was from Trump supporters
And they end off the article by simping for Elon by mentioning the Tesla dealership fires.
Over 1,000 protests around the country and many of them were quite huge - NYC at well over 100,000, Boston's was huge, etc. Yes, millions is definitely likely nationwide but FOX spins it down to "thousands" and downplays. Typical.
I'm not finding any sources confirming your NYC numbers. And no news outlets have been citing a million total attendees (nor millions), including the organizers, who seem to be the only source suggesting more than half a million attendees:
AP: Thousands of protesters in cities dotting the nation from Midtown Manhattan to Anchorage, Alaska, including at multiple state capitols, assailed Trump and billionaire Elon Musk ‘s actions on government downsizing, the economy, immigration and human rights. On the West Coast, in the shadow of Seattle’s iconic Space Needle, protesters held signs with slogans like “Fight the oligarchy.” Protesters chanted as they took to the streets in Portland, Oregon, and Los Angeles, where they marched from Pershing Square to City Hall.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-doge-protests-hands-off-472c574303260cbac315367cc808960d
UPI: More than 500,000 people across the United States showed up to protests of President Donald Trump's "authoritarian overreach and billionaire-backed agenda" at more than 1,400 events nationwide, the largest protest since he became president again two months ago, organizers said.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2025/04/05/anti-Trump-protests-nationwide/6321743859607/
NYT: While crowd sizes are difficult to estimate, organizers said that more than 600,000 people had signed up to participate and that events also took place in U.S. territories and a dozen locations across the globe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/us/politics/anti-trump-protests-hands-off.html
WaPo: In their permit application to the National Park Service, rally organizers in D.C. said they anticipated a crowd of 10,000. By Friday night, though, the organizers said they expected at least 20,000. Saturday afternoon, they were estimating the crowd was five times as big as they predicted [ie, 100,000 in DC].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/04/05/hands-off-protest-trump-washington/
None of the above negates that these were large, global protests.
Organizers including 50501 are claiming 5.2 million. That’s roughly 2% of the adult population in the US. Studies show that at 3.5% you can affect real change. Next protests are April 19th!!
It's great to get that many people participating, but even if we reach that threshold, there has to be more than standing there with cute signs. Millions came out, myself included, but there seemed to be no clear demand, and the material result of the protest was...nothing. Trump went golfing and said he doesn't care.
That 3.5% threshold needs to be people doing something that actually threatens the people with power. A strike. Or a sustained protest that makes their lives difficult in some way. Standing around looking at each other's signs for a day on the weekend while Trump golfs isn't going to change anything. And I have my doubts that anywhere near 3.5% of the country is ready for a sustained general strike.
Strikes are very different from protests in a way that they have very clear set of demands and clear message. What is your message? I saw a bunch of signs, some look like they’ve been dug out from 2020 era. What specific demands do you have that if satisfied would end the strike?
I paid no more attention to the protests than I did a dead leaf I saw blowing down the street gutter.
Anonymous wrote:The intentions behind these protests are good. It would be effective in normal times - when lawmakers needed to care about the opinions of their constituents. Senators and representatives from around the country should see the mass amounts of people showing up at their capitol buildings and elsewhere around their states and take that as a signal to start listening. But that’s simply not gonna happen. Spending a Saturday afternoon holding clever signs will not cut it. The protests need to be unrelenting and localized. People need to go to DC. Surround the buildings these people are actually in. 24/7. In MASS numbers. From now until this ends. It needs to be something they can’t ignore. They need to be forced out of their holes.
Is this practical? Of course not. We have jobs and families and other obligations. But still, this is the only way to be effective…which is why nothing is going to change.
Anonymous wrote:Strike if you want, the next sign you’ll be carrying will say, “Will Work For Food”.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should have been the lead story for NYT/WashPo. Instead it’s on the front page but not the lead. And of course no where I Fox News.
I hope the organizers continue to do this and Dem leadership steps up too.
Sure it was:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371072617112
https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-rally-against-trump-musk-hands-off-gatherings-nationwide
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/woodstock-hands-off-protest-trump-musk
Typical FOX slant in your 2nd article
"Thousands of protesters gathered across the U.S. Saturday to object to Trump administration policies, including Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) federal downsizing, reciprocal tariffs and immigration reform:"
It was estimated at 5 million country wide and i went becauseTrump was traming on the Constitution and making the country less safe to attack as well as alienating our true allies to buddy up with Putin
While most protests appear to be peaceful, there was a large police presence on standby as of 4:30 p.m. ET Saturday"
let's be real,.this great piece of fear mongering hides the fact that the real threat of danger was from Trump supporters
And they end off the article by simping for Elon by mentioning the Tesla dealership fires.
Over 1,000 protests around the country and many of them were quite huge - NYC at well over 100,000, Boston's was huge, etc. Yes, millions is definitely likely nationwide but FOX spins it down to "thousands" and downplays. Typical.
I'm not finding any sources confirming your NYC numbers. And no news outlets have been citing a million total attendees (nor millions), including the organizers, who seem to be the only source suggesting more than half a million attendees:
AP: Thousands of protesters in cities dotting the nation from Midtown Manhattan to Anchorage, Alaska, including at multiple state capitols, assailed Trump and billionaire Elon Musk ‘s actions on government downsizing, the economy, immigration and human rights. On the West Coast, in the shadow of Seattle’s iconic Space Needle, protesters held signs with slogans like “Fight the oligarchy.” Protesters chanted as they took to the streets in Portland, Oregon, and Los Angeles, where they marched from Pershing Square to City Hall.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-doge-protests-hands-off-472c574303260cbac315367cc808960d
UPI: More than 500,000 people across the United States showed up to protests of President Donald Trump's "authoritarian overreach and billionaire-backed agenda" at more than 1,400 events nationwide, the largest protest since he became president again two months ago, organizers said.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2025/04/05/anti-Trump-protests-nationwide/6321743859607/
NYT: While crowd sizes are difficult to estimate, organizers said that more than 600,000 people had signed up to participate and that events also took place in U.S. territories and a dozen locations across the globe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/us/politics/anti-trump-protests-hands-off.html
WaPo: In their permit application to the National Park Service, rally organizers in D.C. said they anticipated a crowd of 10,000. By Friday night, though, the organizers said they expected at least 20,000. Saturday afternoon, they were estimating the crowd was five times as big as they predicted [ie, 100,000 in DC].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/04/05/hands-off-protest-trump-washington/
None of the above negates that these were large, global protests.
Organizers including 50501 are claiming 5.2 million. That’s roughly 2% of the adult population in the US. Studies show that at 3.5% you can affect real change. Next protests are April 19th!!
It's great to get that many people participating, but even if we reach that threshold, there has to be more than standing there with cute signs. Millions came out, myself included, but there seemed to be no clear demand, and the material result of the protest was...nothing. Trump went golfing and said he doesn't care.
That 3.5% threshold needs to be people doing something that actually threatens the people with power. A strike. Or a sustained protest that makes their lives difficult in some way. Standing around looking at each other's signs for a day on the weekend while Trump golfs isn't going to change anything. And I have my doubts that anywhere near 3.5% of the country is ready for a sustained general strike.
Strikes are very different from protests in a way that they have very clear set of demands and clear message. What is your message? I saw a bunch of signs, some look like they’ve been dug out from 2020 era. What specific demands do you have that if satisfied would end the strike?
I paid no more attention to the protests than I did a dead leaf I saw blowing down the street gutter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should have been the lead story for NYT/WashPo. Instead it’s on the front page but not the lead. And of course no where I Fox News.
I hope the organizers continue to do this and Dem leadership steps up too.
Sure it was:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371072617112
https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-rally-against-trump-musk-hands-off-gatherings-nationwide
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/woodstock-hands-off-protest-trump-musk
Typical FOX slant in your 2nd article
"Thousands of protesters gathered across the U.S. Saturday to object to Trump administration policies, including Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) federal downsizing, reciprocal tariffs and immigration reform:"
It was estimated at 5 million country wide and i went becauseTrump was traming on the Constitution and making the country less safe to attack as well as alienating our true allies to buddy up with Putin
While most protests appear to be peaceful, there was a large police presence on standby as of 4:30 p.m. ET Saturday"
let's be real,.this great piece of fear mongering hides the fact that the real threat of danger was from Trump supporters
And they end off the article by simping for Elon by mentioning the Tesla dealership fires.
Over 1,000 protests around the country and many of them were quite huge - NYC at well over 100,000, Boston's was huge, etc. Yes, millions is definitely likely nationwide but FOX spins it down to "thousands" and downplays. Typical.
I'm not finding any sources confirming your NYC numbers. And no news outlets have been citing a million total attendees (nor millions), including the organizers, who seem to be the only source suggesting more than half a million attendees:
AP: Thousands of protesters in cities dotting the nation from Midtown Manhattan to Anchorage, Alaska, including at multiple state capitols, assailed Trump and billionaire Elon Musk ‘s actions on government downsizing, the economy, immigration and human rights. On the West Coast, in the shadow of Seattle’s iconic Space Needle, protesters held signs with slogans like “Fight the oligarchy.” Protesters chanted as they took to the streets in Portland, Oregon, and Los Angeles, where they marched from Pershing Square to City Hall.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-doge-protests-hands-off-472c574303260cbac315367cc808960d
UPI: More than 500,000 people across the United States showed up to protests of President Donald Trump's "authoritarian overreach and billionaire-backed agenda" at more than 1,400 events nationwide, the largest protest since he became president again two months ago, organizers said.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2025/04/05/anti-Trump-protests-nationwide/6321743859607/
NYT: While crowd sizes are difficult to estimate, organizers said that more than 600,000 people had signed up to participate and that events also took place in U.S. territories and a dozen locations across the globe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/us/politics/anti-trump-protests-hands-off.html
WaPo: In their permit application to the National Park Service, rally organizers in D.C. said they anticipated a crowd of 10,000. By Friday night, though, the organizers said they expected at least 20,000. Saturday afternoon, they were estimating the crowd was five times as big as they predicted [ie, 100,000 in DC].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/04/05/hands-off-protest-trump-washington/
None of the above negates that these were large, global protests.
Organizers including 50501 are claiming 5.2 million. That’s roughly 2% of the adult population in the US. Studies show that at 3.5% you can affect real change. Next protests are April 19th!!
It's great to get that many people participating, but even if we reach that threshold, there has to be more than standing there with cute signs. Millions came out, myself included, but there seemed to be no clear demand, and the material result of the protest was...nothing. Trump went golfing and said he doesn't care.
That 3.5% threshold needs to be people doing something that actually threatens the people with power. A strike. Or a sustained protest that makes their lives difficult in some way. Standing around looking at each other's signs for a day on the weekend while Trump golfs isn't going to change anything. And I have my doubts that anywhere near 3.5% of the country is ready for a sustained general strike.
Strikes are very different from protests in a way that they have very clear set of demands and clear message. What is your message? I saw a bunch of signs, some look like they’ve been dug out from 2020 era. What specific demands do you have that if satisfied would end the strike?
Strike if you want, the next sign you’ll be carrying will say, “Will Work For Food”.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should have been the lead story for NYT/WashPo. Instead it’s on the front page but not the lead. And of course no where I Fox News.
I hope the organizers continue to do this and Dem leadership steps up too.
Sure it was:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371072617112
https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-rally-against-trump-musk-hands-off-gatherings-nationwide
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/woodstock-hands-off-protest-trump-musk
Typical FOX slant in your 2nd article
"Thousands of protesters gathered across the U.S. Saturday to object to Trump administration policies, including Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) federal downsizing, reciprocal tariffs and immigration reform:"
It was estimated at 5 million country wide and i went becauseTrump was traming on the Constitution and making the country less safe to attack as well as alienating our true allies to buddy up with Putin
While most protests appear to be peaceful, there was a large police presence on standby as of 4:30 p.m. ET Saturday"
let's be real,.this great piece of fear mongering hides the fact that the real threat of danger was from Trump supporters
And they end off the article by simping for Elon by mentioning the Tesla dealership fires.
Over 1,000 protests around the country and many of them were quite huge - NYC at well over 100,000, Boston's was huge, etc. Yes, millions is definitely likely nationwide but FOX spins it down to "thousands" and downplays. Typical.
I'm not finding any sources confirming your NYC numbers. And no news outlets have been citing a million total attendees (nor millions), including the organizers, who seem to be the only source suggesting more than half a million attendees:
AP: Thousands of protesters in cities dotting the nation from Midtown Manhattan to Anchorage, Alaska, including at multiple state capitols, assailed Trump and billionaire Elon Musk ‘s actions on government downsizing, the economy, immigration and human rights. On the West Coast, in the shadow of Seattle’s iconic Space Needle, protesters held signs with slogans like “Fight the oligarchy.” Protesters chanted as they took to the streets in Portland, Oregon, and Los Angeles, where they marched from Pershing Square to City Hall.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-doge-protests-hands-off-472c574303260cbac315367cc808960d
UPI: More than 500,000 people across the United States showed up to protests of President Donald Trump's "authoritarian overreach and billionaire-backed agenda" at more than 1,400 events nationwide, the largest protest since he became president again two months ago, organizers said.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2025/04/05/anti-Trump-protests-nationwide/6321743859607/
NYT: While crowd sizes are difficult to estimate, organizers said that more than 600,000 people had signed up to participate and that events also took place in U.S. territories and a dozen locations across the globe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/us/politics/anti-trump-protests-hands-off.html
WaPo: In their permit application to the National Park Service, rally organizers in D.C. said they anticipated a crowd of 10,000. By Friday night, though, the organizers said they expected at least 20,000. Saturday afternoon, they were estimating the crowd was five times as big as they predicted [ie, 100,000 in DC].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/04/05/hands-off-protest-trump-washington/
None of the above negates that these were large, global protests.
Organizers including 50501 are claiming 5.2 million. That’s roughly 2% of the adult population in the US. Studies show that at 3.5% you can affect real change. Next protests are April 19th!!
It's great to get that many people participating, but even if we reach that threshold, there has to be more than standing there with cute signs. Millions came out, myself included, but there seemed to be no clear demand, and the material result of the protest was...nothing. Trump went golfing and said he doesn't care.
That 3.5% threshold needs to be people doing something that actually threatens the people with power. A strike. Or a sustained protest that makes their lives difficult in some way. Standing around looking at each other's signs for a day on the weekend while Trump golfs isn't going to change anything. And I have my doubts that anywhere near 3.5% of the country is ready for a sustained general strike.
Strikes are very different from protests in a way that they have very clear set of demands and clear message. What is your message? I saw a bunch of signs, some look like they’ve been dug out from 2020 era. What specific demands do you have that if satisfied would end the strike?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should have been the lead story for NYT/WashPo. Instead it’s on the front page but not the lead. And of course no where I Fox News.
I hope the organizers continue to do this and Dem leadership steps up too.
Sure it was:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371072617112
https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-rally-against-trump-musk-hands-off-gatherings-nationwide
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/woodstock-hands-off-protest-trump-musk
Typical FOX slant in your 2nd article
"Thousands of protesters gathered across the U.S. Saturday to object to Trump administration policies, including Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) federal downsizing, reciprocal tariffs and immigration reform:"
It was estimated at 5 million country wide and i went becauseTrump was traming on the Constitution and making the country less safe to attack as well as alienating our true allies to buddy up with Putin
While most protests appear to be peaceful, there was a large police presence on standby as of 4:30 p.m. ET Saturday"
let's be real,.this great piece of fear mongering hides the fact that the real threat of danger was from Trump supporters
And they end off the article by simping for Elon by mentioning the Tesla dealership fires.
Over 1,000 protests around the country and many of them were quite huge - NYC at well over 100,000, Boston's was huge, etc. Yes, millions is definitely likely nationwide but FOX spins it down to "thousands" and downplays. Typical.
I'm not finding any sources confirming your NYC numbers. And no news outlets have been citing a million total attendees (nor millions), including the organizers, who seem to be the only source suggesting more than half a million attendees:
AP: Thousands of protesters in cities dotting the nation from Midtown Manhattan to Anchorage, Alaska, including at multiple state capitols, assailed Trump and billionaire Elon Musk ‘s actions on government downsizing, the economy, immigration and human rights. On the West Coast, in the shadow of Seattle’s iconic Space Needle, protesters held signs with slogans like “Fight the oligarchy.” Protesters chanted as they took to the streets in Portland, Oregon, and Los Angeles, where they marched from Pershing Square to City Hall.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-doge-protests-hands-off-472c574303260cbac315367cc808960d
UPI: More than 500,000 people across the United States showed up to protests of President Donald Trump's "authoritarian overreach and billionaire-backed agenda" at more than 1,400 events nationwide, the largest protest since he became president again two months ago, organizers said.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2025/04/05/anti-Trump-protests-nationwide/6321743859607/
NYT: While crowd sizes are difficult to estimate, organizers said that more than 600,000 people had signed up to participate and that events also took place in U.S. territories and a dozen locations across the globe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/us/politics/anti-trump-protests-hands-off.html
WaPo: In their permit application to the National Park Service, rally organizers in D.C. said they anticipated a crowd of 10,000. By Friday night, though, the organizers said they expected at least 20,000. Saturday afternoon, they were estimating the crowd was five times as big as they predicted [ie, 100,000 in DC].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/04/05/hands-off-protest-trump-washington/
None of the above negates that these were large, global protests.
Organizers including 50501 are claiming 5.2 million. That’s roughly 2% of the adult population in the US. Studies show that at 3.5% you can affect real change. Next protests are April 19th!!
It's great to get that many people participating, but even if we reach that threshold, there has to be more than standing there with cute signs. Millions came out, myself included, but there seemed to be no clear demand, and the material result of the protest was...nothing. Trump went golfing and said he doesn't care.
That 3.5% threshold needs to be people doing something that actually threatens the people with power. A strike. Or a sustained protest that makes their lives difficult in some way. Standing around looking at each other's signs for a day on the weekend while Trump golfs isn't going to change anything. And I have my doubts that anywhere near 3.5% of the country is ready for a sustained general strike.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should have been the lead story for NYT/WashPo. Instead it’s on the front page but not the lead. And of course no where I Fox News.
I hope the organizers continue to do this and Dem leadership steps up too.
Sure it was:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371072617112
https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-rally-against-trump-musk-hands-off-gatherings-nationwide
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/woodstock-hands-off-protest-trump-musk
Typical FOX slant in your 2nd article
"Thousands of protesters gathered across the U.S. Saturday to object to Trump administration policies, including Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) federal downsizing, reciprocal tariffs and immigration reform:"
It was estimated at 5 million country wide and i went becauseTrump was traming on the Constitution and making the country less safe to attack as well as alienating our true allies to buddy up with Putin
While most protests appear to be peaceful, there was a large police presence on standby as of 4:30 p.m. ET Saturday"
let's be real,.this great piece of fear mongering hides the fact that the real threat of danger was from Trump supporters
And they end off the article by simping for Elon by mentioning the Tesla dealership fires.
Over 1,000 protests around the country and many of them were quite huge - NYC at well over 100,000, Boston's was huge, etc. Yes, millions is definitely likely nationwide but FOX spins it down to "thousands" and downplays. Typical.
I'm not finding any sources confirming your NYC numbers. And no news outlets have been citing a million total attendees (nor millions), including the organizers, who seem to be the only source suggesting more than half a million attendees:
AP: Thousands of protesters in cities dotting the nation from Midtown Manhattan to Anchorage, Alaska, including at multiple state capitols, assailed Trump and billionaire Elon Musk ‘s actions on government downsizing, the economy, immigration and human rights. On the West Coast, in the shadow of Seattle’s iconic Space Needle, protesters held signs with slogans like “Fight the oligarchy.” Protesters chanted as they took to the streets in Portland, Oregon, and Los Angeles, where they marched from Pershing Square to City Hall.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-doge-protests-hands-off-472c574303260cbac315367cc808960d
UPI: More than 500,000 people across the United States showed up to protests of President Donald Trump's "authoritarian overreach and billionaire-backed agenda" at more than 1,400 events nationwide, the largest protest since he became president again two months ago, organizers said.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2025/04/05/anti-Trump-protests-nationwide/6321743859607/
NYT: While crowd sizes are difficult to estimate, organizers said that more than 600,000 people had signed up to participate and that events also took place in U.S. territories and a dozen locations across the globe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/us/politics/anti-trump-protests-hands-off.html
WaPo: In their permit application to the National Park Service, rally organizers in D.C. said they anticipated a crowd of 10,000. By Friday night, though, the organizers said they expected at least 20,000. Saturday afternoon, they were estimating the crowd was five times as big as they predicted [ie, 100,000 in DC].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/04/05/hands-off-protest-trump-washington/
None of the above negates that these were large, global protests.
Organizers including 50501 are claiming 5.2 million. That’s roughly 2% of the adult population in the US. Studies show that at 3.5% you can affect real change. Next protests are April 19th!!