Anonymous
01/31/2025 16:29
Subject: Re:Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Sooo... I'm confused. Trump says FAA is full of incompetent unqualified dangerous epileptic dwarves with missing limbs hired for DEI purposes yet those incompetent unqualified dangerous epileptic dwarves with missing limbs are apparently doing a great job because it's safe to fly! Both of those things are true! Karoline Leavitt says so!
(just being sarcastic)
If it's safe to fly then that says there's nothing wrong with our air traffic controllers. Also I LOL'd at Doocy's very skeptical expression as Karoline Leavitt was answering.
Not a good sign when you've already lost Republican-friendly FOX News so early into the Presidency.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 16:18
Subject: Re:Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
If you can't understand this, you are devoid of any humanity, you disgusting POS
https://www.stlpr.org/npr/2025-01-30/army-withholds-name-of-black-hawk-helicopter-crew-in-d-c-crash-2-others-identified
Illinois Democrat Sen. Tammy Duckworth, herself a decorated former Black Hawk pilot, told NPR she understood why the family declined to make their loved-one's name public.
" We should be respecting the family's wishes at a time when they have suffered an unbelievable loss," Duckworth said. "I think it is a perfectly legitimate request the family would make. And I'm glad that the Army is honoring that request."
Duckworth condemned the online speculation about the third member of the crew and especially President Trump's musings that the Army crew was to blame or was affected by DEI hiring.
"Every one of those troops that was in that aircraft earned their place there, and they are the most highly trained military aviators in the world," Duckworth said. "And I am just sick to my stomach that we would have a president who would say such things about the heroic men and women who serve every single day."
Despite President Trump saying the pilots of the Army helicopter bore responsibility for the crash, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said the crew was "fairly experienced" and carrying out a "required annual night evaluation, they did have night vision goggles."
https://www.stlpr.org/npr/2025-01-30/army-withholds-name-of-black-hawk-helicopter-crew-in-d-c-crash-2-others-identified
Anonymous
01/31/2025 16:17
Subject: Re:Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
He's deflecting. Getting in front of the real story which he knows. As everything he does, going on offense to cover up what actually happened, then divert attention to people thinking how stupid he is, when in reality is playing tricks.
We know now several key people in several agencies have take the offer of buy out and those people are gone - just like that, because these people could afford to take it, as they are also some of the efficient or doers in the workforce. They are also allowed to do non government work in the resignation period and not expected to be at work. Now some of these key positions are filled in less capable people stepping in, hasty decisions have to be made since replacements and succession is not well thought out.
Aftermath, we already see the tragic plane crash, what more is waiting on us?
Thanks to the majority fools that gave us this - we were a great nation at the peak - we were not satisfied, we wanted more, push out those other people, get even more from other nations, now we suffer for the arrogance and disdain. Our potus even told the Pope to go pound the pavement. This type of arrogance comes before a major downfall.
We know now several key people in several agencies have take the offer of buy out and those people are gone - just like that, because these people could afford to take it, as they are also some of the efficient or doers in the workforce. They are also allowed to do non government work in the resignation period and not expected to be at work. Now some of these key positions are filled in less capable people stepping in, hasty decisions have to be made since replacements and succession is not well thought out.
Aftermath, we already see the tragic plane crash, what more is waiting on us?
Thanks to the majority fools that gave us this - we were a great nation at the peak - we were not satisfied, we wanted more, push out those other people, get even more from other nations, now we suffer for the arrogance and disdain. Our potus even told the Pope to go pound the pavement. This type of arrogance comes before a major downfall.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 15:48
Subject: Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were turned away because of the color of their skin,” Vice President JD Vance said of air traffic controllers. “That policy ends under Donald Trump’s leadership.”
We do not know what led to this crash, but we have some very strong opinions and ideas,” he said. “And I think we'll probably state those opinions now, because over the years I've watched as things like this happen and they say, ‘Well, we're always investigating.’”
How long do we have to listen to this garbage? Now this tragedy will turn into a race issue and the country won’t be able to get together and grieve for these people.
Actually I think he said we should hire the best and the brightest air traffic controllers and not base hiring on race, sex, orientation, etc. It’s called a meritocracy.
JFC, meritocracy, my a**! You guys elected a white old rapist traitor to the highest position in America and you have the gumption to talk about meritocracy!!!
Anonymous
01/31/2025 15:02
Subject: Re:Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:Both sides in this debate are engaging in political attacks instead of admitting and focussing on the true cause of the crash- a tragic accident that, was obscenely preventable, had Air Traffic controllers who have been turning whistleblower for YEARS about under staffing had been listened to.
This Front Page NYT article bringing Air Traffic Controller's concerns to front page for all Americans to READ was published about a YEAR before the accident: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/02/business/air-traffic-controllers-safety.html
DEI preferences is not the reason that the USA is short about 50,000 trained pilots as well as tens of thousands of Air Traffic controllers- we simply do not train , recruit and retain enough to meet demand.
Corporate GREED in the Airline industry is another factor: pay your pilots well and you retain the best and then the best train the new hires.
America has allowed itself, courtesy of our corrupt Congress, to short shift every aspect of our bridges, ports, and air traffic all the while caving to corporate demands. Just look at the disaster at Bowing- because they sidelined their Engineers.
Fix that and stop Bickering with each other
Are pilots not paid well?
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:59
Subject: Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How would you even prove this? Like if the pilot was Hispanic or gay or female, would he see proof that he was right??
They turned down over a 1,000 white men.
*who are qualified
This is false. Total lie! FAA wants qualified people regardless of race!
Then they should have hired them, regardless of race.
Exactly.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:58
Subject: Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How would you even prove this? Like if the pilot was Hispanic or gay or female, would he see proof that he was right??
They turned down over a 1,000 white men.
THEY WERE NOT QUALIFIED.
There are hundreds of seats that need to be filled, but you cannot fill an ATC seat with someone who isn't qualified without causing harm to the air traffic system and safety in our country.
They were the wrong skin tone.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:56
Subject: Re:Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:There is a trans woman, who's a CW2 in the Virginia National Guard, that is being named by Trumpers on social media as the pilot. She is alive and well, and had to post on Facebook a "proof of life" video and statement.
So JUST STOP. (yes, I know the President giving his verdict already of why it happened)
THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN A COUNTRY
Thank you for posting this - more examples of how out of control this is.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/31/media/trans-pilot-black-hawk-crash/index.html
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:44
Subject: Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:We went from supposed "DEI hires" where no accidents happened to the DUI hire Pete Hegseth where right out of the gate we have the worst air disaster in 25 years and the guy couldn't even be bothered to show up for the press conference over how a military helo took out a passenger plane full of ice skating kids. What's the deal, still drunk? Hangover?
I know I didn’t write this but I could have. They are covering for Hegseth. He was on Hannity earlier in the evening and I bet the two of them had many night caps. It appears the military is at fault for killing 64 civilians and he should have been at the first presser.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:40
Subject: Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
They mis-typed and corrected it later. He fired the controllers in 1981. They've been under-staffed ever since. Not even lying.
They were fired because they went on strike. It is against the law for Federal employees to strike.
Reagan made a knee jerk reaction and did not take into consideration that he has few people qualified to take over the controller positions. Flying was a nightmare thanks to Reagan. His son has since said that Reagan suffered from dementia for his entire eight years in office.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:38
Subject: Re:Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sam Lilley graduated in 2018 with a degree in marketing but decided to become a pilot. He had earlier graduated from Richmond Hill High School, just south of Savannah, Georgia, where he had been an active member of Coastal Community Christian Church.
His father: “This is undoubtedly the worst day of my life,” said Timothy Lilley, who also is a longtime pilot and served as a U.S. Army helicopter pilot for 20 years, noting he flew similar routes in and out of the Pentagon.
Ryan O’Hara was one of three soldiers aboard the Black Hawk helicopter.
“Ryan was just the most committed, disciplined person I remember working with,” said Josh Muehlendorf, a senior instructor pilot in the U.S. Army. “He had such great integrity.”
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves said on the social platform X that the state was mourning the death of Andrew Eaves, who was also aboard the Army helicopter.
Eaves was from the small town of Brooksville in eastern Mississippi, Reeves said.
Reaves was apparently the pilot:
As per reports, Eaves was the Chief Warrant Office 2 of Mississippi. He grew up in the Brooksville and graduated from Central Academy. He said to be with Bravo Company, 12th Aviation Battalion out of Davison Army Airfield, Fort Belvoir, Virginia.
"Andrew was a kind, loving, fun-loving and patriotic man," Eaves' family said in a statement. "He loved his wife and kids fiercely and would have done anything to take care of them. He was a great son and loved his mom and brother dearly. He was an absolute joy to be around and would light up every room he entered, and was always the life of the party. He was a true all-American hero, and will be deeply missed by anyone lucky enough to have known him."
From AP, Economic Times, and WAPT, an ABC affiliate in Jackson.
Deranged MAGAs on X were trying to claim the pilot was "a DEI hire" and "a transwoman" - yet the pilot was straight, white, male and married.
MAGAs are out of control with their incessant lying. MAGAs suck.
You forgot the 5th spot on the Bingo card--all from the Bible Belt South.
Yup. Not only straight, white, male and married but southern (Mississippi) and probably a Christian and Trump supporter too.
Project 2025.....on it's way
Anonymous
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:33
Subject: Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How would you even prove this? Like if the pilot was Hispanic or gay or female, would he see proof that he was right??
They turned down over a 1,000 white men.
Do you know how hard it is to become an air traffic controller? Super hard. If you don't meet the standard, you are not accepted. There are no exceptions. If they didn't get hired, they didn't have what it takes.
Mediocre white men believe they are owed.
I had to listen to an extremely entitled white male tell me that liberals were trying to make white males a minority...you really can't up this kind of stupid.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:31
Subject: Re:Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sam Lilley graduated in 2018 with a degree in marketing but decided to become a pilot. He had earlier graduated from Richmond Hill High School, just south of Savannah, Georgia, where he had been an active member of Coastal Community Christian Church.
His father: “This is undoubtedly the worst day of my life,” said Timothy Lilley, who also is a longtime pilot and served as a U.S. Army helicopter pilot for 20 years, noting he flew similar routes in and out of the Pentagon.
Ryan O’Hara was one of three soldiers aboard the Black Hawk helicopter.
“Ryan was just the most committed, disciplined person I remember working with,” said Josh Muehlendorf, a senior instructor pilot in the U.S. Army. “He had such great integrity.”
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves said on the social platform X that the state was mourning the death of Andrew Eaves, who was also aboard the Army helicopter.
Eaves was from the small town of Brooksville in eastern Mississippi, Reeves said.
Reaves was apparently the pilot:
As per reports, Eaves was the Chief Warrant Office 2 of Mississippi. He grew up in the Brooksville and graduated from Central Academy. He said to be with Bravo Company, 12th Aviation Battalion out of Davison Army Airfield, Fort Belvoir, Virginia.
"Andrew was a kind, loving, fun-loving and patriotic man," Eaves' family said in a statement. "He loved his wife and kids fiercely and would have done anything to take care of them. He was a great son and loved his mom and brother dearly. He was an absolute joy to be around and would light up every room he entered, and was always the life of the party. He was a true all-American hero, and will be deeply missed by anyone lucky enough to have known him."
From AP, Economic Times, and WAPT, an ABC affiliate in Jackson.
Deranged MAGAs on X were trying to claim the pilot was "a DEI hire" and "a transwoman" - yet the pilot was straight, white, male and married.
MAGAs are out of control with their incessant lying. MAGAs suck.
We still don’t know who the helicopter pilot was. We only have two names from the helicopter.
This is going to very hard for his family.
And they can Thank/Blame the President (Commander in Chief) for making it harder than necessary.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 14:30
Subject: Trump blaming minorities for the crash.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How would you even prove this? Like if the pilot was Hispanic or gay or female, would he see proof that he was right??
They turned down over a 1,000 white men.
Do you know how hard it is to become an air traffic controller? Super hard. If you don't meet the standard, you are not accepted. There are no exceptions. If they didn't get hired, they didn't have what it takes.
You are talking to MAGA....they are reading you FOX narrative.