Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:23     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
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Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So what's the backstory? Do you want us to believe these are randomly selected individuals chosen for preventive detention for no reason at all? None of them attacked anyone or engaged in violence of any kind, or broke any laws, or were identified conspiring to commit acts of violence? If you want to convince us, give us the details. Oh, you don't have any? You're just blustering because you don't have any facts and throwing out perjorative terms is your substitute for rational informed discourse? Sorry it's so frustrating to be presented with inconvenient facts.


The burden is on nobody critical of Israel to explain anything. Until you and the rest of the disgusting Zionist goons you consort with explain why settlers were allowed to attack a detention center to free Israeli security officials who were found to have sexually assaulted and raped Palestinian detainees, you’re owed not a goddamned thing by me or anyone.

Evil people were imported to the Middle East as make-believe chosen people, and now the world lives with the consequences of believing anything those evildoers have to say …
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 18:58     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
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Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?). I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are. Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out. If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago.


Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum.


I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.



I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different. But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.


Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop.


Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/


Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that.


Why? Not pro Israel enough?


The obvious lying just became too much. They’ve just shown themselves to be untrustworthy. I used to be a regular donor too, I think it’s a pity how much of a grossly politicized organization they’ve become. I trust them about as much as I trust Hamas or the IDF.

To be clear, I am not a supporter of Israel. I want minimal American dollars going there, just enough to buy some military support because the US does need a spot in the region as an ally, and I don’t want us allying with groups and countries that view women as lower value than dairy cows (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc). Other than that minimal and necessary support, I have no interest in funding Israeli/Palestinian warring; they’re all despicable.

If another ally opens up in the Middle East where women aren’t chattel slaves, I’d be fine with switching allegiance. I dislike a lot about current Israel and am uninterested in supporting Netanyahu, who does not benefit the US at all.


I don’t see any evidence of obvious lying
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 18:45     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
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Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So if you have no response which is actually responsive, you'll settle for name-calling? I hope your parents did't pay too much for your "education".


Palestinians can be jailed for participating in a gathering of merely 10 people without a permit on any issue “that could be construed as political,” while settlers can demonstrate without a permit unless the gathering exceeds 50 people, takes place outdoors and involves “political speeches and statements.”

In short, Israeli settlers and Palestinians live in the same territory, but are tried in different courts under different laws with different due process rights and face different sentences for the same offense. The result is a large and growing number of Palestinians imprisoned without basic due process.

Discrimination also pervades the treatment of children. Israeli civil law protects children against nighttime arrests, provides the right to have a parent present during interrogations and limits the amount of time children may be detained before being able to consult a lawyer and to be presented before a justice.

Israeli authorities, however, regularly arrest Palestinian children during nighttime raids, interrogate them without a guardian present, hold them for longer periods before bringing them before a judge and hold those as young as 12 in lengthy pretrial detention. The Association for Civil Rights in Israel found in 2017 that authorities kept 72 percent of Palestinian children from the West Bank in custody until the end of proceedings, but only 17.9 percent of children in Israel.

While the law of occupation permits administrative detention as a temporary and exceptional measure, Israel’s sweeping use of administrative detention on the Palestinian population, more than a half-century into an occupation with no end in sight, far exceeds what the law authorizes.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/29/why-does-israel-have-so-many-palestinians-detention-and-available-swap

Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 18:42     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So what's the backstory? Do you want us to believe these are randomly selected individuals chosen for preventive detention for no reason at all? None of them attacked anyone or engaged in violence of any kind, or broke any laws, or were identified conspiring to commit acts of violence? If you want to convince us, give us the details. Oh, you don't have any? You're just blustering because you don't have any facts and throwing out perjorative terms is your substitute for rational informed discourse? Sorry it's so frustrating to be presented with inconvenient facts.


You’re blustering because there is no backstory other than IDF lies. Many of those “prisoners” were picked up so those sick men could rape them.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 18:41     Subject: CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:The Israeli hostages seemed to have been treated well. Not so much the Palestinian prisoners. I also read that the IDF raided the Palestinian prisoners family’s homes to prevent celebrations. Why are they so cruel?


Because that’s how Zionists roll, cruel and insidious is the name of the apartheid game. I wouldn’t be surprised if they round those same people up tomorrow. FYI many of those prisoners and young women, hmm what do soldiers usually do with pretty young women. Rape them!
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 18:40     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So what's the backstory? Do you want us to believe these are randomly selected individuals chosen for preventive detention for no reason at all? None of them attacked anyone or engaged in violence of any kind, or broke any laws, or were identified conspiring to commit acts of violence? If you want to convince us, give us the details. Oh, you don't have any? You're just blustering because you don't have any facts and throwing out perjorative terms is your substitute for rational informed discourse? Sorry it's so frustrating to be presented with inconvenient facts.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 18:39     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?). I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are. Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out. If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago.


Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum.


I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.



I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different. But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.


Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop.


Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/


Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that.


Why? Not pro Israel enough?


The obvious lying just became too much. They’ve just shown themselves to be untrustworthy. I used to be a regular donor too, I think it’s a pity how much of a grossly politicized organization they’ve become. I trust them about as much as I trust Hamas or the IDF.

To be clear, I am not a supporter of Israel. I want minimal American dollars going there, just enough to buy some military support because the US does need a spot in the region as an ally, and I don’t want us allying with groups and countries that view women as lower value than dairy cows (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc). Other than that minimal and necessary support, I have no interest in funding Israeli/Palestinian warring; they’re all despicable.

If another ally opens up in the Middle East where women aren’t chattel slaves, I’d be fine with switching allegiance. I dislike a lot about current Israel and am uninterested in supporting Netanyahu, who does not benefit the US at all.


Countries that view women as dairy cows? That’s some hasbera if I ever heard it. I bet you don’t even know a single person from the Gulf or Levant. You believe that because that’s what the Zionists have conditioned you to believe. What does the status of women have to do with US political decisions? Do you know how women are treated in South Asia? South East Asia? Saharan and sub Saharan Africa? Many of which are US allies.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 18:36     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?). I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are. Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out. If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago.


Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum.


I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.



I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different. But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.


Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop.


Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/


Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that.


Zionists don’t trust NGOs, the ICC and the UN. Shocker!
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 18:23     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So if you have no response which is actually responsive, you'll settle for name-calling? I hope your parents did't pay too much for your "education".
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 17:55     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


Don't you know not to come unarmed to a battle of wits?


Joke’s on you, Jerry! I’m Ashkenazi, so ipso facto, I’m more than capable of handling the matter at hand.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 17:48     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


Don't you know not to come unarmed to a battle of wits?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 17:46     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?). I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are. Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out. If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago.


Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum.


I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.



I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different. But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.


Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop.


Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/


Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that.


Why? Not pro Israel enough?


The obvious lying just became too much. They’ve just shown themselves to be untrustworthy. I used to be a regular donor too, I think it’s a pity how much of a grossly politicized organization they’ve become. I trust them about as much as I trust Hamas or the IDF.

To be clear, I am not a supporter of Israel. I want minimal American dollars going there, just enough to buy some military support because the US does need a spot in the region as an ally, and I don’t want us allying with groups and countries that view women as lower value than dairy cows (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc). Other than that minimal and necessary support, I have no interest in funding Israeli/Palestinian warring; they’re all despicable.

If another ally opens up in the Middle East where women aren’t chattel slaves, I’d be fine with switching allegiance. I dislike a lot about current Israel and am uninterested in supporting Netanyahu, who does not benefit the US at all.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 17:41     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic
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Post 01/20/2025 17:30     Subject: CEASEFIRE Announced
The Israeli hostages seemed to have been treated well. Not so much the Palestinian prisoners. I also read that the IDF raided the Palestinian prisoners family’s homes to prevent celebrations. Why are they so cruel?
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Post 01/20/2025 17:00     Subject: Re:CEASEFIRE Announced
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Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?). I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are. Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out. If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago.


Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum.


I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.



I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different. But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.


Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop.


Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/


Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that.


Why? Not pro Israel enough?