Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about the other trend of not marrying at all?
I have coworkers with babies who are not married.
This is the actual trend. But it doesn't fit in with the current narrative being pushed
UMC/rich kids seem to be getting married younger. These kids likely have the support of the rich parents.
Poor and MC young adults may not have the money for a wedding or to buy a house. Our kids will have college, grad school, wedding and at least down payment from the parents. I would rather my kids marry relatively young in their twenties and have kids young.
I come from humble beginnings and traveled a ton in my twenties after I started working. My kids have been traveling internationally since they were young. My kids are still minors and been to Europe and Asia several times and the US/Caribbean countless times. It isn’t like they need to spend their twenties traveling and enjoying life. They have been doing this since being born.
Traveling with mama is not what people mean when they say "travel and see the world." That you would unironically write that tells me so much about you.
DP.
What does “travel and see the world” mean if not travel and see the world, which one can do with their friends, their parents, or even by themselves!
Do you mean getting drunk, high, and having sex with random strangers? That’s the only scenario in which you’re right and one would not get that experience traveling with mama…
No they mean exploring the world on your own without your parents paying for everything and holding your hand the entire time. Navigating a foreign transportation system or a language you don't speak on your own without well-traveled parents who can always step in to explain or guide.
I traveled a ton between birth and age 12 because my dad worked for a huge international company and we lived all over the world as he helped set up offices and factories for them. And then even after we settled in the US so I could have a "normal" high school experience we still traveled abroad a lot. So I was a "well-traveled" kid. But when I traveled in my 20s on my own I learned different things about myself. It was a totally different experience. Independence is a really powerful thing to explore and I do think I would have missed out on something if I'd married straight out of college even though obviously I wasn't lacking in opportunities to travel.
I never did the drinking and drugging and casual sex type of travel btw. I did meet lots of interesting people but I have always known to be cautious when traveling abroad.
You’re speaking from an upper middle class / wealthy bubble. The vast majority of American kids, teens, and young adults will NEVER “see the world”. For the average American family a trip to a single European country for a week is literally a once-in-lifetime event.
So you can continue to split hairs about whether seeing the world as a kid “counts” or not, but just understand that it’s irrelevant.
DP. Isn’t that the topic of this thread?
Anyway, the point was that most young adults would benefit from getting TF out of their hometown. “Seeing the world” doesn’t just mean visiting some tourist trap in Europe.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Give it 10 years and they'll all be divorced and looking for a 2nd spouse to have kids with
I don't know why people hate this trend so much. Its not like marrying later improves strength or longevity of marriages. Just look up relationship forum at DCUM.
No evidence of "trend" even if you state that "it's official."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?
It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/
I’m only partially through that list, but the ages of the first four brides featured are 49, 31, 45, and 34ish (guessing because she graduated from college in 2011). I’ll keep going… slow day at work…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?
It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are these UMC or MC men who are willing to marry in their early twenties? Who are these young pretty women supposed to marry??
Serious boys at elite colleges and Southern university fraternities. Smart boys consume most of the same social media influencing their female peers. There is pressure to hit these milestones and 'flex' them on social media. Engagement + wedding + buying a nice house together are all a huge 'flex' (achievement/status badge) to your peers. No high-achieving boys want to be some single Barstool dweeb obsessed with sports, using dating apps, and renting an apartment when they're 30.
"Serious boy" and "pressure to flex on social media" do not go together.
Boys don't really care about weddings and young men certainly don't swoon over wedding photos on social media the way you seem to think.
Are you a boomer? Every young adult is on social media and they peruse it all day on their phones. 100% of the boys will post their engagement and wedding photo on instagram, i.e. sharing major milestones among their broad network of friends and associates. The bride will post more photos, plus photos of the honeymoon, house, and of course any babies. It's not a braggadocios thing, it simply signals to everyone they have achieved these milestones. Peers who have not yet achieved those milestones feel intense pressure to do the same, as they are bombarded by friends and friends of friends achieving these milestones. Monkey see, monkey do. This is how you stoke a trend.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?
It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/
I’m only partially through that list, but the ages of the first four brides featured are 49, 31, 45, and 34ish (guessing because she graduated from college in 2011). I’ll keep going… slow day at work…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?
It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/
The topline bride at the link you posted is a 49-year old Tinsley Mortimer.
I quickly found two different wealthy couples who were ages 23 to 24 at their weddings.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?
It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/
The topline bride at the link you posted is a 49-year old Tinsley Mortimer.
I quickly found two different wealthy couples who were ages 23 to 24 at their weddings.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are these UMC or MC men who are willing to marry in their early twenties? Who are these young pretty women supposed to marry??
Serious boys at elite colleges and Southern university fraternities. Smart boys consume most of the same social media influencing their female peers. There is pressure to hit these milestones and 'flex' them on social media. Engagement + wedding + buying a nice house together are all a huge 'flex' (achievement/status badge) to your peers. No high-achieving boys want to be some single Barstool dweeb obsessed with sports, using dating apps, and renting an apartment when they're 30.
"Serious boy" and "pressure to flex on social media" do not go together.
Boys don't really care about weddings and young men certainly don't swoon over wedding photos on social media the way you seem to think.
Are you a boomer? Every young adult is on social media and they peruse it all day on their phones. 100% of the boys will post their engagement and wedding photo on instagram, i.e. sharing major milestones among their broad network of friends and associates. The bride will post more photos, plus photos of the honeymoon, house, and of course any babies. It's not a braggadocios thing, it simply signals to everyone they have achieved these milestones. Peers who have not yet achieved those milestones feel intense pressure to do the same, as they are bombarded by friends and friends of friends achieving these milestones. Monkey see, monkey do. This is how you stoke a trend.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two of my mid-20s employees got married last year. I thought it was weird. I am 47. Most people I know got married in their 30s.
I have noticed this "trend" already.
I’ve noticed it too, although I didn’t know it was a trend. I know a few couples in their 20’s getting married. My niece got married at 22 just after graduating college from a top 25 school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?
It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/
The topline bride at the link you posted is a 49-year old Tinsley Mortimer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?
It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are these UMC or MC men who are willing to marry in their early twenties? Who are these young pretty women supposed to marry??
Serious boys at elite colleges and Southern university fraternities. Smart boys consume most of the same social media influencing their female peers. There is pressure to hit these milestones and 'flex' them on social media. Engagement + wedding + buying a nice house together are all a huge 'flex' (achievement/status badge) to your peers. No high-achieving boys want to be some single Barstool dweeb obsessed with sports, using dating apps, and renting an apartment when they're 30.
"Serious boy" and "pressure to flex on social media" do not go together.
Boys don't really care about weddings and young men certainly don't swoon over wedding photos on social media the way you seem to think.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?
It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/