Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 13:04     Subject: Re:Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I don’t understand the point the Canadian PP was making, but to all of those who think the Canadians somehow do youth sports better than the US… no.

Youth ice hockey in Canada is the most competitive, taken-extremely-serious youth sport with the most outrageously insane parents I have ever seen.


And they dominate US pro hockey.


And?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 13:04     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


Really? None at atll? Not XC or track? Bc it seems like its so different by school; we have a lot of options for girls. We are in MD, in a school of around 2,200 kids.

In the fall:

Football was no cut.
Field Hockey was no cut.
Girls Flag Football had the MOST cuts (but that may be because this is such a new sport & some kids just know enough about themselves to not even try out for the soccer teams?)
XC was no cut.

In the spring
Baseball made approximately 50 cuts
Lax was cut for both girls and boys
Softball only cut 2-3 girls
Track is no cut

So, at at our school, we have at least 3-4 options for girls that are no cut (they could join the wrestling team as well, which is also no cut, even if you don't get any matches). A girl could tie up her sneaks and make a XC team, or grab a stick and join the FH team

And essentially the same number of no cut teams for boys.

Meanwhile, the competitive sports have to cut a TON of kids. Basically, your kid has to be open-minded to trying new sports if they want to play a HS sport but there is an option for them


Flag football at our school is also wildly popular. It looks really fun and boy football players are helping out, with a really nice coach. All really positive. Uniforms are really cool.

One criticism - they took girls who also play other sports (soccer) who can never play or practice because the other sport (soccer) has to be the first priority. Meanwhile other girls were cut. That’s just not right.


Oh, that's not fair. At all.

Plus, its bad coaching, imo. I'm involved in our local youth girls flag league (up through MS), and while the soccer girls are usually the quickest/most agile, they have no hand eye coordination. The first few weeks is full of black eyes and jammed fingers because these girls can barely clap their hands, forget about catching a ball.

The softball girls have the best hands for sure.

You want the point guards and the CFers to tryout for your flag team. I'll hand the ball off to a soccer player, but it takes a while for them to learn how to catch a ball


I bet the soccer girls are good at defense though? Grabbing the little flags is just like grabbing a Jersey when the offense is running by.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 13:02     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:I guess the problem I see is that sports have basically become all or nothing. Either you're doing travel teams and shelling out money for private lessons, or you're out of luck.

I grew up playing rec league sports in Toronto. Anyone who wanted to could sign up for a hockey team in winter and a soccer or baseball team during summer, which were run by Toronto's parks and rec, and have very modest signup calls. This provided a middle ground of giving kids the benefits of physical activity without having to devote your family's life to it. Whether you played a sport or not was irrelevant to college admissions, since college sports aren't much of a thing in Canada.


I'm ready to go from "all" to "nothing" with my kid's sport. For years, we've let him play on a club team that has involved significant travel costs and private lessons to keep up at the highest level. The kid is now a teenager complaining about wanting more time with friends. The thing is, I know that when we shift gears, starting with no more private lessons, this is going downhill fast. He'll go from the lower middle of the pack to cut from the team in one year. He doesn't get it, but we see the writing on the wall. The passion and drive are gone, and he's giving lip service to wanting to play at a high level. He'll still make the high school team, and that has to be enough. But, wow, what an expensive, time-sucking journey to play a high school sport.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:58     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


What about girls cross country, ultimate frisbee (APS), or pickleball (MCPS)? In the winter there’s no cut swim and dive and indoor track. In the spring there’s no cut track, rowing (crew), etc. It seems like the number of no cut varsity sports keeps increasing every year due to parent pressure.


Which is a good thing. A busy teen is a good thing
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:58     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


Really? None at atll? Not XC or track? Bc it seems like its so different by school; we have a lot of options for girls. We are in MD, in a school of around 2,200 kids.

In the fall:

Football was no cut.
Field Hockey was no cut.
Girls Flag Football had the MOST cuts (but that may be because this is such a new sport & some kids just know enough about themselves to not even try out for the soccer teams?)
XC was no cut.

In the spring
Baseball made approximately 50 cuts
Lax was cut for both girls and boys
Softball only cut 2-3 girls
Track is no cut

So, at at our school, we have at least 3-4 options for girls that are no cut (they could join the wrestling team as well, which is also no cut, even if you don't get any matches). A girl could tie up her sneaks and make a XC team, or grab a stick and join the FH team

And essentially the same number of no cut teams for boys.

Meanwhile, the competitive sports have to cut a TON of kids. Basically, your kid has to be open-minded to trying new sports if they want to play a HS sport but there is an option for them


You listed one team sport with no cuts. At our school field hockey has cuts leave no team sports for girls that are no cut.


I understand what you're suggesting, but I disagree that XC, Track & Field, and Wrestling are not team sports. They may not pass a ball, or they may be more invidually focused, but you are still a part of a team


The individual nature of these sports really only comes into play at meets and that's a relatively small amount of your time. In any of these sports you will train as a team, race or compete with and against each other in practice, etc. You get most of the benefits of teamwork and social aspects as you would if you played basketball or volleyball or soccer. And actually even with team sports you always have starters and people who spend more time on the bench and for the people who spend a lot of games on the bench their experience is actually inferior to what it would be on a no-cut track or CC team because in those sports generally even the worst people on the team still get to compete. You might not make an event final or you might go out early in an elimination tournament for wrestling but you will have an opportunity to put your skills to the test whereas that is not always true for kids in team sports especially if they are underclassmen on a varsity squad or they play a position where they are just the alternate.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:54     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


Can girls play football?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:54     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


Really? None at atll? Not XC or track? Bc it seems like its so different by school; we have a lot of options for girls. We are in MD, in a school of around 2,200 kids.

In the fall:

Football was no cut.
Field Hockey was no cut.
Girls Flag Football had the MOST cuts (but that may be because this is such a new sport & some kids just know enough about themselves to not even try out for the soccer teams?)
XC was no cut.

In the spring
Baseball made approximately 50 cuts
Lax was cut for both girls and boys
Softball only cut 2-3 girls
Track is no cut

So, at at our school, we have at least 3-4 options for girls that are no cut (they could join the wrestling team as well, which is also no cut, even if you don't get any matches). A girl could tie up her sneaks and make a XC team, or grab a stick and join the FH team

And essentially the same number of no cut teams for boys.

Meanwhile, the competitive sports have to cut a TON of kids. Basically, your kid has to be open-minded to trying new sports if they want to play a HS sport but there is an option for them


Flag football at our school is also wildly popular. It looks really fun and boy football players are helping out, with a really nice coach. All really positive. Uniforms are really cool.

One criticism - they took girls who also play other sports (soccer) who can never play or practice because the other sport (soccer) has to be the first priority. Meanwhile other girls were cut. That’s just not right.


Oh, that's not fair. At all.

Plus, its bad coaching, imo. I'm involved in our local youth girls flag league (up through MS), and while the soccer girls are usually the quickest/most agile, they have no hand eye coordination. The first few weeks is full of black eyes and jammed fingers because these girls can barely clap their hands, forget about catching a ball.

The softball girls have the best hands for sure.

You want the point guards and the CFers to tryout for your flag team. I'll hand the ball off to a soccer player, but it takes a while for them to learn how to catch a ball
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:53     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:I guess the problem I see is that sports have basically become all or nothing. Either you're doing travel teams and shelling out money for private lessons, or you're out of luck.

I grew up playing rec league sports in Toronto. Anyone who wanted to could sign up for a hockey team in winter and a soccer or baseball team during summer, which were run by Toronto's parks and rec, and have very modest signup calls. This provided a middle ground of giving kids the benefits of physical activity without having to devote your family's life to it. Whether you played a sport or not was irrelevant to college admissions, since college sports aren't much of a thing in Canada.


I grew up in the US and this is pretty much my feeling as well.

I played rec sports as a kid and then in middle school my school offered no-cut teams in a handful of sports -- basketball, volleyball, track and field. I did all three and while I wasn't good I went to all the practices and learned the sports and techniques for getting better at them. And I got the social benefits and learned about teamwork.

I could have done at least one of these in high school. I would never have made varsity but I could have played a year or two of JV. Probably track or cross country would have been the best fit and CC was no cut. I wound up not doing sports in high school because I was in both marching band and orchestra and it took up a lot of time. But I got the benefit of sports and became a fit and reasonably athletic adult.

It makes me really sad how hard this is for kids to get now because the focus has shifted away from rec and no-cut school opportunities (especially in middle) and toward travel teams and cuts for athletics starting at a very young age.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:50     Subject: Re:Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I don’t understand the point the Canadian PP was making, but to all of those who think the Canadians somehow do youth sports better than the US… no.

Youth ice hockey in Canada is the most competitive, taken-extremely-serious youth sport with the most outrageously insane parents I have ever seen.


And they dominate US pro hockey.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:45     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


Really? None at atll? Not XC or track? Bc it seems like its so different by school; we have a lot of options for girls. We are in MD, in a school of around 2,200 kids.

In the fall:

Football was no cut.
Field Hockey was no cut.
Girls Flag Football had the MOST cuts (but that may be because this is such a new sport & some kids just know enough about themselves to not even try out for the soccer teams?)
XC was no cut.

In the spring
Baseball made approximately 50 cuts
Lax was cut for both girls and boys
Softball only cut 2-3 girls
Track is no cut

So, at at our school, we have at least 3-4 options for girls that are no cut (they could join the wrestling team as well, which is also no cut, even if you don't get any matches). A girl could tie up her sneaks and make a XC team, or grab a stick and join the FH team

And essentially the same number of no cut teams for boys.

Meanwhile, the competitive sports have to cut a TON of kids. Basically, your kid has to be open-minded to trying new sports if they want to play a HS sport but there is an option for them


Flag football at our school is also wildly popular. It looks really fun and boy football players are helping out, with a really nice coach. All really positive. Uniforms are really cool.

One criticism - they took girls who also play other sports (soccer) who can never play or practice because the other sport (soccer) has to be the first priority. Meanwhile other girls were cut. That’s just not right.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:26     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


What about girls cross country, ultimate frisbee (APS), or pickleball (MCPS)? In the winter there’s no cut swim and dive and indoor track. In the spring there’s no cut track, rowing (crew), etc. It seems like the number of no cut varsity sports keeps increasing every year due to parent pressure.


FCPS, so no frisbee or pickleball. Cross country, swim, and track are not team sports. Crew is a club not a sport


Crew in APS and ACPS is a partially-funded, varsity team sport, sanctioned by the district. Meaning students get the varsity letter and are officially athletes. Are rowing students in FCPS not eligible for the varsity letter? Do the FCPS schools not provide some at least some bus transportation? I find it strange that it’s a club.

Rifle team in FCPS, APS, etc is likely no cut. That’s growing in popularity because of the Olympics.


Rifle team is not a team sport. There are a bunch of individual sports that are no cut, but no team sports. For some girls, team is the whole point of sports. Does being the 75th kid on a cross country team really get the same benefit and lessons as being on a soccer/basketball/lacrosse team? Boys have football. At some schools field hockey is no cut, at DD's it's cut. She made teams, but there are other girls where were shut out


I don't understand this logic whatsoever. Kids on the track and swim team feel like they are on a team sport...obviously, the relay races have an actual team competition component.

Sure, they care if they win their individual event, but they also care a ton that the overall team finishes first.

Even if field hockey was no-cut...how much does anyone feel part of a team if they literally never get to play on the field during an actual game, nor necessarily even get the same practice as the varsity starters?

Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 12:00     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


Really? None at atll? Not XC or track? Bc it seems like its so different by school; we have a lot of options for girls. We are in MD, in a school of around 2,200 kids.

In the fall:

Football was no cut.
Field Hockey was no cut.
Girls Flag Football had the MOST cuts (but that may be because this is such a new sport & some kids just know enough about themselves to not even try out for the soccer teams?)
XC was no cut.

In the spring
Baseball made approximately 50 cuts
Lax was cut for both girls and boys
Softball only cut 2-3 girls
Track is no cut

So, at at our school, we have at least 3-4 options for girls that are no cut (they could join the wrestling team as well, which is also no cut, even if you don't get any matches). A girl could tie up her sneaks and make a XC team, or grab a stick and join the FH team

And essentially the same number of no cut teams for boys.

Meanwhile, the competitive sports have to cut a TON of kids. Basically, your kid has to be open-minded to trying new sports if they want to play a HS sport but there is an option for them


You listed one team sport with no cuts. At our school field hockey has cuts leave no team sports for girls that are no cut.


I understand what you're suggesting, but I disagree that XC, Track & Field, and Wrestling are not team sports. They may not pass a ball, or they may be more invidually focused, but you are still a part of a team


By that definition, every sport including golf and tennis are team sports. If you can win an individual championship, it's not a team sport
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2024 10:49     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


Really? None at atll? Not XC or track? Bc it seems like its so different by school; we have a lot of options for girls. We are in MD, in a school of around 2,200 kids.

In the fall:

Football was no cut.
Field Hockey was no cut.
Girls Flag Football had the MOST cuts (but that may be because this is such a new sport & some kids just know enough about themselves to not even try out for the soccer teams?)
XC was no cut.

In the spring
Baseball made approximately 50 cuts
Lax was cut for both girls and boys
Softball only cut 2-3 girls
Track is no cut

So, at at our school, we have at least 3-4 options for girls that are no cut (they could join the wrestling team as well, which is also no cut, even if you don't get any matches). A girl could tie up her sneaks and make a XC team, or grab a stick and join the FH team

And essentially the same number of no cut teams for boys.

Meanwhile, the competitive sports have to cut a TON of kids. Basically, your kid has to be open-minded to trying new sports if they want to play a HS sport but there is an option for them


You listed one team sport with no cuts. At our school field hockey has cuts leave no team sports for girls that are no cut.


I understand what you're suggesting, but I disagree that XC, Track & Field, and Wrestling are not team sports. They may not pass a ball, or they may be more invidually focused, but you are still a part of a team
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Post 09/26/2024 10:25     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

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Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


What about girls cross country, ultimate frisbee (APS), or pickleball (MCPS)? In the winter there’s no cut swim and dive and indoor track. In the spring there’s no cut track, rowing (crew), etc. It seems like the number of no cut varsity sports keeps increasing every year due to parent pressure.


FCPS, so no frisbee or pickleball. Cross country, swim, and track are not team sports. Crew is a club not a sport


Crew in APS and ACPS is a partially-funded, varsity team sport, sanctioned by the district. Meaning students get the varsity letter and are officially athletes. Are rowing students in FCPS not eligible for the varsity letter? Do the FCPS schools not provide some at least some bus transportation? I find it strange that it’s a club.

Rifle team in FCPS, APS, etc is likely no cut. That’s growing in popularity because of the Olympics.


Rifle team is not a team sport. There are a bunch of individual sports that are no cut, but no team sports. For some girls, team is the whole point of sports. Does being the 75th kid on a cross country team really get the same benefit and lessons as being on a soccer/basketball/lacrosse team? Boys have football. At some schools field hockey is no cut, at DD's it's cut. She made teams, but there are other girls where were shut out
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Post 09/26/2024 10:10     Subject: Why are youth and high school sports so competitive to get into now?

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Anonymous wrote:My son has played sports all his life because that’s what he loves to do. He has played one sport at the travel/club level for quite awhile and is a very solid athlete but like PP, he’ll be lucky to make his HS team because the number of kids trying out makes it’s insanely competitive. Yes in theory he could pivot to football but we’d like his brain to be in tack for college and beyond and have purposely avoided this and other high concussion potential sports for this reason so don’t see that as a viable option. The biggest issue is that more and more kids are playing sports at a higher level than ever before and if you attend a big school or a school that recruits for your sport, there’s a high chance your kid will not make the team despite being a really strong player. It just sucks that you have that many kids who are strong who are getting cut.

And yes, of course, there are plenty of girls who don’t make the team and some girls’ sports are wildly competitive. I think the comparison with girls having more luck in HS sports wise has to do with the numbers and there are more boys than girls who don’t land on a team. I am a product of title IX and I have a daughter who has benefitted from it, but that doesn’t mean I don’t see that there’s a downside for my son (who is a far better athlete than my daughter but she’s the one playing HS sports and his future there is uncertain).



Football is no cut at our school. There are zero girls team sports that are no cut. Any boy who wants to play a team sport can play football. Even field hockey has cuts at our school, so not every girl who wants to play a team sport can play.


What about girls cross country, ultimate frisbee (APS), or pickleball (MCPS)? In the winter there’s no cut swim and dive and indoor track. In the spring there’s no cut track, rowing (crew), etc. It seems like the number of no cut varsity sports keeps increasing every year due to parent pressure.


FCPS, so no frisbee or pickleball. Cross country, swim, and track are not team sports. Crew is a club not a sport


Crew in APS and ACPS is a partially-funded, varsity team sport, sanctioned by the district. Meaning students get the varsity letter and are officially athletes. Are rowing students in FCPS not eligible for the varsity letter? Do the FCPS schools not provide some at least some bus transportation? I find it strange that it’s a club.

Rifle team in FCPS, APS, etc is likely no cut. That’s growing in popularity because of the Olympics.