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Anonymous wrote:I think oher was probably irresponsible with his nfl money and is now looking to get some of that $200 million fast food money. Give me a break. So ungrateful.

You're saying he should be grateful that they lied to him and cheated him out of money?

Again --- yet to be proven they lied. In his bio he described it as a conservatorship. They are saying he got his money.

So the book, the ghostwriter, describes it as a conservatorship….. think about it. It’s not a stretch to think that he hardly knew the really detailed contents of the book.

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How much of the book did he actually “write”? Any?

As a practical matter, if your legal claim is significantly based on “I didn’t know X” and your autobiography says “X”, it’s going to be tough sledding for you. What, his ghostwriter was in on it? Any reasonable observer should, based on this evidence alone, conclude that the most likely scenario is that Oher is full of BS. Maybe not, but that’s the smart way to bet at this point, for those who need to have a view on the question.

and it's so humorous that most of us disagree with you and believe the Toueys are full of bs. Thanks Singer Slinger for telling us how we should "bet" on this.

The Toueys are fake creeps.

Why are you calling their lawyer that? He is the best in LA and normally wins. Not a snowball’s chance that he is saying false stuff for people who are not and will never be big clients of his.

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

I would agree with you but so far there is no lie. He knew about the conservatorship. He is lying now in his petition. You can’t put it your book a decade ago and now say you did not know.

Also how was he led astray? He did better at ole miss than he would have other places because they took care of him because of the family. When in college he got into a fight with a fellow player. During the fight Michael threw a desk or chair and it hit a toddler who was a kid of an assistant coach. Toddler was rushed to hospital with serious injuries. Kid was ok. Ole miss coach got Sean. Sean paid a financial settlement to the assistant coach’s family. Sean also hired a lawyer who shot down the police investigation. Ole miss did not throw him out as they would have great player or not because of the book and the family. He was not led astray.

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Anonymous wrote:I think oher was probably irresponsible with his nfl money and is now looking to get some of that $200 million fast food money. Give me a break. So ungrateful.

You're saying he should be grateful that they lied to him and cheated him out of money?

Again --- yet to be proven they lied. In his bio he described it as a conservatorship. They are saying he got his money.

So the book, the ghostwriter, describes it as a conservatorship….. think about it. It’s not a stretch to think that he hardly knew the really detailed contents of the book.

+1

How much of the book did he actually “write”? Any?

As a practical matter, if your legal claim is significantly based on “I didn’t know X” and your autobiography says “X”, it’s going to be tough sledding for you. What, his ghostwriter was in on it? Any reasonable observer should, based on this evidence alone, conclude that the most likely scenario is that Oher is full of BS. Maybe not, but that’s the smart way to bet at this point, for those who need to have a view on the question.

and it's so humorous that most of us disagree with you and believe the Toueys are full of bs. Thanks Singer Slinger for telling us how we should "bet" on this.

The Toueys are fake creeps.

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

He was led astray? How so?

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because of the dad’s involvement in ole miss football booster club. It could be seen as the living arrangement was bribing Oher to play there. Past scandals have seen wealthy alumni from football/basketball colleges putting high school players up in fancy properties, taking them on trips, and buying them clothes to recruit them for specific colleges with the collusion of coaches.

That’s why the dad said if you want to go to ole miss we have to do this (conservatorship) to prove we aren’t just bribing you to go to ole miss and that’s why you live with us.

I don’t care for Leigh Ann’s brand of marketable Christianity/charity but really they were just a very wealthy family who took in a struggling kid and had a talented writer friend who wrote about it. Oher is no doubt better off than he would have otherwise been thanks to them but he’s also entitled to reject their narrative and values as an adult. Going after their money though is petty and dumb, they made their money off of fast food franchises not off of him.

The movie, book, endless interviews, her whole identity had nothing to do with him?. Nothing at all? He would be nothing without them? They definitely made coin off of Michael.

Anonymous wrote:From her own damn webpage
https://www.leighannetuohy.com/leigh-anne/
"They are the proud parents of daughter, Collins, and sons, Michael Oher and Sean, Jr. "

Every other sentence is about her being an Advocate for Adoption. What's that about since she doesn't know anything about adoption.
Liars.

I'm not usually a grammar nazi, but I can't believe how poorly written that webpage is. Wow.

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

They could have adopted him or become his legal guardians. They can lie all they want, but these were options. If they have nothing to hide they should be very vocal in insisting upon a full forensic accounting of the conservatorship.

There’s no money in the conservatorship. They weren’t acting as his agents signing contracts for him which by the way they would have had more power to do if they adopted him. All the nfl money went to him. There was very little money from the movie/book and they all split it. Oher claims this was about money but it clearly wasn’t. He’s either naive and poorly advised or just believes he can get money out of them from their other businesses.

Leigh Ann’s foundation doesn’t pay either of them salaries. It raises and spends pretty modest amount of money on things like school remodeling projects.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/383808388

Her public speaking brings in some money but not in the millions, she mostly advocates for fostering and adoption. Her book is at only ranked at 90,000 while Michaels is at 5000. Again, no millions there.

I have no idea where oher is getting his ‘millions’ figure from. If he wants more millions he should invest in lots of fast food franchises like they did. Maybe then he can take in a struggling kid and help him apply to college.

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

This is all set out in the Michael Lewis book that the movie is based on. The family let Michael stay at their house. It grew from that. I have no idea if they adopted him. He now says they did not but we will have to wait and see. Maybe it was just the conservatorship. That would be easier to do than an adoption. That may be why they did it. Also Michael was a bit crazy in his actions unlike in the movie. They may not have wanted the liability. Remember they were quite wealthy. What does not make sense is to me is that Michael was over 18 when the book came out and well over 18 when the movie was in production and made. I don't know why the conservatorship would still be on or if he really did get no money -- how that was possible. The movie would have had to pay someone to use Michael's name and story. No production company would rely on a conservatorship for a dude already in the NFL who was over 18. They would want Michael's signature as well. And did he not notice he had received nothing?

This story is not at all adding up at the moment and I am a bit suspect of Michael.

Really?

After everything we know about Britney Spears and how she was fully controlled and taken advantage of by her conservatorship, you truly believe Michael Oher would have been in a better place to defend himself?

Seriously?

Don’t get your comment. Spears was controlled by and all her money went to the conservatorship. Other’s was never used. Other than given to the NCAA. No money went in. No control. Sean did not sign Oher’s nfl co tract and take the money.

How do you know this unless you work for them and are spinning the facts?

We don’t know right now. But what is out there is what I said above. Might they be lying? Sure. Is it likely they are lying? No. And the response from Michael’s lawyers is the reliable lawyers make when they are now uncertain about their client. That is when you say I try my cars in court and we believe our client and our petition. That is not a robust defense. May the facts all change. Sure. That is just not the way it is looking right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I can see why Oher is unhappy and hurt. However, unless the Tuohys settle, I don't think he is getting the money he is seeking. I don't think they acted appropriately, but it seems like he knew this for quite a while.

They are going to have to prove why they put him in a conservatorship and they can’t use we wanted him to be apart of the family when adult adoption was the first option. They wanted to work around NCAA booster rules which is pathetic. That kid should have went to college in Memphis or LSU as intended because the Tuohys only cared about him going to Ole Miss because they are alums and boosters.

Every decision was really what was going to benefit the Tuohys. It must have hurt when he realized all their family talk was a pack of lies. The Tuohys are users through and through.

Btw Singer trolls. You'll be outdone here. We don't believe your posts.

There were no decisions. What are you talking about?

From her own damn webpage
https://www.leighannetuohy.com/leigh-anne/
"They are the proud parents of daughter, Collins, and sons, Michael Oher and Sean, Jr. "

Every other sentence is about her being an Advocate for Adoption. What's that about since she doesn't know anything about adoption.
Liars.

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Right but what was needed here was something that could be done quickly that would satisfy the NCAA.

Why would the NCAA require this, given that he was 18 and mentally competent at the time it was set up? I'm legitimately asking - is there something NCAA-specific?

Because Tuohy was a booster for the school and it would look bad to bring in someone just to play football, against the NCAA rules, unless he was a family member. Otherwise the NCAA could have found him ineligible.

They could have adopted him or become his legal guardians. They can lie all they want, but these were options. If they have nothing to hide they should be very vocal in insisting upon a full forensic accounting of the conservatorship.

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Yes, this.

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused why, if they wanted to play up adopting him, they didn't just do it. They could have ensured that their assets only went to their biological children via a will/estate planning, right?

Because they never wanted him apart of the family. He was property to them, like a prize winning horse.

Exactly. They loved the attention and adoration. What a pair of fakes. I feel sorry for Michael.

All of this.

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Anonymous wrote:What an ungrateful fat bastard!!

Agreed. Sean Tuohy is a predator.

That doesn't even make any sense. Poor attempt. Try again.

Okay. Sean Tuohy is a FAT predator.

humor illudes you. don't quit your day job if you have one.

Grammar eludes you. Are you proud of your day job being a troll?

PP hurt your feelings didn't she?

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Anonymous wrote:I think oher was probably irresponsible with his nfl money and is now looking to get some of that $200 million fast food money. Give me a break. So ungrateful.

You're saying he should be grateful that they lied to him and cheated him out of money?

Again --- yet to be proven they lied. In his bio he described it as a conservatorship. They are saying he got his money.

So the book, the ghostwriter, describes it as a conservatorship….. think about it. It’s not a stretch to think that he hardly knew the really detailed contents of the book.

+1

How much of the book did he actually “write”? Any?

As a practical matter, if your legal claim is significantly based on “I didn’t know X” and your autobiography says “X”, it’s going to be tough sledding for you. What, his ghostwriter was in on it? Any reasonable observer should, based on this evidence alone, conclude that the most likely scenario is that Oher is full of BS. Maybe not, but that’s the smart way to bet at this point, for those who need to have a view on the question.

Did the ghost writer review every word with him?

Most likely scenario is you are full of BS since you have zero facts.

Dude, listen to yourself. That makes no sense. If you have a statement in your own book that contradicts your legal claims, it’s a problem. Not rocket science. And when your own book contradicts your later public statements, people should not believe you. None of this is anything but common sense.