Anonymous
08/07/2023 11:43
Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Do people not realize that tips have always been taxable?
Oh a lot of servers used to under-report their tips on purpose to avoid those taxes, now they are mad they can't easily commit tax fraud because very few people tip in cash anymore.
Also apparently angry that back of house staff is now regularly tipped out using tips on credit cards -- they much preferred it when buses and dish washers got screwed.
But don't forget, a customer who tips 18% is greedy and selfish. Servers are always salt of the earth people who are deserving of extra compensation even if they didn't do their job well at all.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 11:21
Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now
Do people not realize that tips have always been taxable?
Anonymous
08/07/2023 08:06
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Back in the 1980s folks gave 15 to 20 percent. 15 percent mediocre service up to 20 percent great service. But that was CASH.
20 percent today on credit card is not anywhere near what it was.
It is minus
Credit card fee
Holding back portion bus boys and back of house
Unemployment insurance
Social security
Medicare tax
State tax
Fed tax
Plus if a student on financial aid or adult with subsidized Obama care it impacts their financial aid or health care premium.
So the $100 tip of 1989 in cash vs. $100 tip on credit card in 2023 is a massive difference.
And some restaurants if credit card fraud and charge reversed takes back the credit card tip.
Not to me
Anonymous
08/07/2023 08:04
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Back in the 1980s folks gave 15 to 20 percent. 15 percent mediocre service up to 20 percent great service. But that was CASH.
20 percent today on credit card is not anywhere near what it was.
It is minus
Credit card fee
Holding back portion bus boys and back of house
Unemployment insurance
Social security
Medicare tax
State tax
Fed tax
Plus if a student on financial aid or adult with subsidized Obama care it impacts their financial aid or health care premium.
So the $100 tip of 1989 in cash vs. $100 tip on credit card in 2023 is a massive difference.
And some restaurants if credit card fraud and charge reversed takes back the credit card tip.
There is less tax fraud with credit cards. Servers could easily underreport their wages with cash tips but that went out the window with the transition to CC. This does not mean that servers "make less". They are now paying taxes on all of their wages like the rest of us.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 07:53
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Minimum wage is not enough to compensate a server in a restaurant.
The same argument can be made for every single minimum wage job, including those where tips are not customary. What’s the solution for those jobs?
Anonymous
08/06/2023 23:33
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Minimum wage is not enough to compensate a server in a restaurant.
Waiting tables is a low skilled job and everyone can do it. Learn a different skill and find a different job then. Nobody is obligated to get them into middle class.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 23:08
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Minimum wage is not enough to compensate a server in a restaurant.
Then the restaurant can pay their servers a higher hourly wage. They can use some the profits they are making from the pandemic pricing.
+1 or they can close shop and find a job. Why am I required to compensate someone else's decision to either pay or get paid minimum wage?
Anonymous
08/06/2023 22:34
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Minimum wage is not enough to compensate a server in a restaurant.
Then the restaurant can pay their servers a higher hourly wage. They can use some the profits they are making from the pandemic pricing.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 22:33
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Credit card fees are deducted from tips in DMV. Totally legal
Not my problem.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 22:31
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Minimum wage is not enough to compensate a server in a restaurant.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 22:19
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Credit card fees are deducted from tips in DMV. Totally legal
Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:36
Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now
Here’s something no one talks about: because restaurant prices have gone up 20%, a 15-20% tip is already 20% more money than it was with a lower bill. Now, the tip RATE is supposed to go up too?! No.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 17:29
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:Back in the 1980s folks gave 15 to 20 percent. 15 percent mediocre service up to 20 percent great service. But that was CASH.
20 percent today on credit card is not anywhere near what it was.
It is minus
Credit card fee
Holding back portion bus boys and back of house
Unemployment insurance
Social security
Medicare tax
State tax
Fed tax
Plus if a student on financial aid or adult with subsidized Obama care it impacts their financial aid or health care premium.
So the $100 tip of 1989 in cash vs. $100 tip on credit card in 2023 is a massive difference.
And some restaurants if credit card fraud and charge reversed takes back the credit card tip.
No, it’s not. Bc the cost of the meal in 1989 was far less than now. https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1989
Here’s an example: a plain Panera bagel was .39 about 6 years ago. Now it’s the same cost as any other flavor, and it is $1.89 for a bagel, likely smaller in size.
I don’t think servers have credit card fees deducted from their tips.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 16:32
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Back in the 1980s folks gave 15 to 20 percent. 15 percent mediocre service up to 20 percent great service. But that was CASH.
20 percent today on credit card is not anywhere near what it was.
It is minus
Credit card fee
Holding back portion bus boys and back of house
Unemployment insurance
Social security
Medicare tax
State tax
Fed tax
Plus if a student on financial aid or adult with subsidized Obama care it impacts their financial aid or health care premium.
So the $100 tip of 1989 in cash vs. $100 tip on credit card in 2023 is a massive difference.
And some restaurants if credit card fraud and charge reversed takes back the credit card tip.
20 percent today on credit card is not anywhere near what it was.
It is minus
Credit card fee
Holding back portion bus boys and back of house
Unemployment insurance
Social security
Medicare tax
State tax
Fed tax
Plus if a student on financial aid or adult with subsidized Obama care it impacts their financial aid or health care premium.
So the $100 tip of 1989 in cash vs. $100 tip on credit card in 2023 is a massive difference.
And some restaurants if credit card fraud and charge reversed takes back the credit card tip.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 16:11
Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
15% pre-tax for sit-down meals. If service is truly exceptional, I go to 18%. If service is subpar, I give 10% or nothing, which is rare.
15% pre-tax for food delivery and hair. 0% for takeout and everything else.
I ignore all of the gimmicks trying to coerce me into giving a greater percentage or the BS on social media and DCUM suggesting there’s somehow a new social standard of 20% or whatever.
15% pre-tax for food delivery and hair. 0% for takeout and everything else.
I ignore all of the gimmicks trying to coerce me into giving a greater percentage or the BS on social media and DCUM suggesting there’s somehow a new social standard of 20% or whatever.