Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 03:04     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the people were cheering the Wagner troops. Wonder why he stopped?


Because Prigo has no money. Someone ratted him out in St Petersburg and got hold of his hoard of cash that was all packed up ready to leave in vans. You can't take the Kremlin without money.


Somehow I'm betting that the owner of a global mercenary organization doesn't have all of his cash sitting in boxes in St. Petersburg. FFS he is making payroll in Africa.


Right. But 48M in St Petersburg is still a lot of bills he was planning to use right away, PP. Money in Africa can't get there fast enough.


My point wasn't that his money is IN Africa. But that he has to move money TO his mercenary groups regularly. He has a network of companies and he's been on sanctions lists since at least 2016, so he knows how to protect his wealth. His life is another matter.


Not so easy to just kill a man able to roll tanks up to Moscow.


Meh.

He might want to check first if his tea tastes like plutonium. And avoid walking past any windows on the 2nd floor or above.

Anyone can run Wagner.

And most of his troops in the Ukraine war just lost most of their enthusiasm.

Putin remains a master strategist.


How is he a master strategist if he just diminished his chances of winning in Ukraine even further? I believe Wagner was the best fighting unit?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 02:58     Subject: Re:Russia - civil war has broken out
Anonymous wrote:UPDATE:

Belarus negotiated Prigozhin’s exile in Belarus. In exchange, all Wagner troops are “supposed” to sign crappy Russian .mil contracts for LESS pay.

And certainly more deadly assignments, as in: suicide missions. Payback is a you know what.

Word is: most Wagner troops are quietly going AWOL and heading home.

Putin did, however, learn who his friends are:

- Kyderov/ Chechen dictator: BEST NUMBER 1 FRIEND!

- Prigozhin: we are never, ever getting back together

- Kazakhstan: we were never really friends anyway

- Russian army: meh

- Belarus: do I have any other choice?


I like your post!
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 02:51     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the people were cheering the Wagner troops. Wonder why he stopped?


He had to flex just enough to reestablish the social order. One of the lesser men in the Russian military fired a missile at his people so he marched his thugs to Moscow. He chased his rivals out of the country and now they are at risk of "falling" out a Ministry of Defense window. I bet he gets cargo containers of the finest ammo back on the Ukrainian front now.


This is the sad thing! His goal wasn’t to stop the war, his goal was to fight it better and he was going against “the saboteurs”.
-DP
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 02:49     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
Anonymous wrote:The Russians are reaping what they've sown. Of course I feel bad for individuals but they allowed a dangerous dictator to destroy a neighboring state for no reason. When you unleash the hounds of war, sometimes they turn on YOU.
I think it will be good if Putin goes down but the question is, to be replaced by what.


The individuals you claim to feel bad about didn’t “allow” anything. They have zero influence. Zero!
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 02:47     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone take a deal from Putin? Prigozhin Will be dead in two weeks.


Honestly I don’t care. Hopefully it will help end the war sooner
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 02:45     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
Anonymous wrote:Wagner is not the only armed group who might turn against Putin.

- the FSB (previously KGB) are well armed and can subvert communications, deceive, control; they are trained to do that

- other “private militaries” exist; for example GazProm, Russia’s state oil company, recently formed its own army.

- regional governors are known to control paramilitary forces, and of course,

- Russian organized crime.

Those who claimed “this could never happen in Russia,” are fools. Ignore them.


As the Russians say, when a crawdad whistles on a hill
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 00:03     Subject: Re:Russia - civil war has broken out
Anonymous wrote:Moscow troops are busy placing explosives on all the main bridges leading to Moscow, and even mining dams inside Russia to stop Wagner troops from reaching the capitol.



Mining dams? You don't say....
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 23:47     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
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Anonymous wrote:Fabulous news. Can't wait until multiple factions headed by various warlords have access to nukes.


Hey, poster who lives next to the pentagon, still blasé at the nuclear implications of this conflict?


We faced the same thing with the breakup of the Soviet Union, with missiles in so many republics. It's not without risk but we have dealt with this problem before.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 23:03     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
This open the way for trump to assume power in Russia.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 22:46     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
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You guys really need to read more of Lenin-Marxist theory books on Revolution...


Reading Lenin-Marxist theory is the last thing any sane person should do.


Don't worry. Nobody is reading it. It's totally passé.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 22:44     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
Anonymous wrote: . . .

You guys really need to read more of Lenin-Marxist theory books on Revolution...


Reading Lenin-Marxist theory is the last thing any sane person should do.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 22:26     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
Pieces to this puzzle are missing. The head of the Wagner group does not give up to receive asylum in Belarus. He’s still a marked man by Putin’s standards.

He got more in return or had an undisclosed set back.

What’s next to the Wagner group? Who leaded?
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 22:26     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
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Anonymous wrote:Russia was more calm about a literal warlord rolling up to moscow than Americans over j6

You tell me which country is more stable


You might want to consider American freedoms and rethink this point.


LOL right Julian Assange is about to get a real big helping of American freedoms.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 22:24     Subject: Russia - civil war has broken out
Anonymous wrote:Russia was more calm about a literal warlord rolling up to moscow than Americans over j6

You tell me which country is more stable


You might want to consider American freedoms and rethink this point.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 22:14     Subject: Re:Russia - civil war has broken out
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Anonymous wrote:At least it wasn't on pallets and transferred in the middle of the night at a Switzerland airport



Russians have not discovered pallet technology yet.

They literally never use pallets. It’s pathetic.


That looks like 20s. One might be 50s and one looks like 5s. That would put it at about 20k in a basket. Two thousand baskets?


They were so scared they released their low effort "bribed by Biden" pic after Putin already forgave his Oligarch buddy.