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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.

He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.

DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.

Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.

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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.

Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.

If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.

WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
DP

Same here. Very small home.

I’m old but what are these terms please? Donut hole and urm?

Donut hole means you make too much to qualify for programs for poor people, but you can't afford a lot of things.

URM is under represented minority. Which means anything not a white man.

URM is the bogeyman white male parents use to explain away their kid’s failures.

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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.

Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.

If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.

WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
DP

Same here. Very small home.

I’m old but what are these terms please? Donut hole and urm?

Donut hole means you make too much to qualify for programs for poor people, but you can't afford a lot of things.

URM is under represented minority. Which means anything not a white man.

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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.

Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.

If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.

WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
DP

Same here. Very small home.

I’m old but what are these terms please? Donut hole and urm?

Donut hole means you make a lot of money, chose to spend on other things and now complain that you’re the actual victim.

Donut hole means you make too much to qualify for programs for poor people, but you can't afford a lot of things.

URM is under represented minority. Which means anything not a white man.

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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.

Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.

If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.

WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
DP

Same here. Very small home.

I’m old but what are these terms please? Donut hole and urm?

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.

He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.

DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.

Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.

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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.

Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.

If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.

WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
DP

Same here. Very small home.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.

He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.

DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.

He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.

DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.

We all know the stats of admitted students. He was better than 95% of them. You are a ho.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

Families shouldn't have to endure a manipulative years-long college admissions slog that too often fails to reward excellence and hard work. Your son clearly earned and deserved an opportunity the first time around. Such an experience can demoralize a young person. We need to create room for all of these talented and high achieving kids by adding more seats to the best schools and building more of them. And congratulations to your son on his triumph! He sounds like a young person of character and will have lessons to share with his children some day.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid with 4.48 gpa and 1580 got rejected from UVA in EA.

Why didn't he apply ED?

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Maybe some of these kids want to try for MIT or CMU as a dream, but hope they can go to UVA in the likely scenario that they don't get into MIT/CMU.

Ok? You have one ED shot (sometimes two if EDII), just like the rest of us.

Would ED have made a difference at UVA?

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!

You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.

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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...

Anonymous wrote:So political advocacy groups are taking advantage of the anonymous nature of this message board to gin up fake outrage in advance of filing lawsuits designed to prevent minorities from accessing educational opportunities.

Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud.