Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:43
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
You keep bringing up two incidents that aren't related to MCPS, and make broad generalizations about SROs. It's like making a generalization based on a few bad apples of, oh, let's say black kids doing bad things in MCPS, so let's just all assume those kids are bad. Right?
MCPS study on SROs was inconclusive; there were some pros and cons that they found. They wanted to continue the study but the Progressives like Elrich pulled the plug on the SRO funding before MCPS could complete their internal study.
DCPS is bringing back SROs; much of their leadership are black. MCPS needs to follows and bring back SROs. Bringing in more teachers isn't going to stop the uptick in violence or drug use in the bathrooms. Maybe if those kids went to class instead of doing drugs in the bathrooms, their grades would go up.
DCPS is NOT bringing back SROs. It's a proposal that will likely not pass.
Why are you insisting that although SROs have been shown to be ineffective elsewhere that this isn't applicable to MCPS?
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:27
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
You keep bringing up two incidents that aren't related to MCPS, and make broad generalizations about SROs. It's like making a generalization based on a few bad apples of, oh, let's say black kids doing bad things in MCPS, so let's just all assume those kids are bad. Right?
MCPS study on SROs was inconclusive; there were some pros and cons that they found. They wanted to continue the study but the Progressives like Elrich pulled the plug on the SRO funding before MCPS could complete their internal study.
DCPS is bringing back SROs; much of their leadership are black. MCPS needs to follows and bring back SROs. Bringing in more teachers isn't going to stop the uptick in violence or drug use in the bathrooms. Maybe if those kids went to class instead of doing drugs in the bathrooms, their grades would go up.
DCPS isn't bringing back SROs. 4 members of Council are making a proposal, with no guarantee of it passing
They are literally reversing course on a stance and policy they just passed a few years ago. How can you possess this much cognitive dissonance and function as an adult?
From the WaPo article:
"Four D.C. lawmakers are backing a proposal that would keep police officers in schools, reversing a measure that sought to remove law enforcement from campuses by 2025."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/02/dc-schools-sro-police-safety/
Maybe it will pass, maybe it will not. But you cannot claim as fact that they are bringing back SROs.
Obviously, but the fact that this many members are reversing course is a sign that the tides are shifting and everyone is reconsidering the merit of the no-SRO model. Which is the point of bringing this up as an example....
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:20
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
You keep bringing up two incidents that aren't related to MCPS, and make broad generalizations about SROs. It's like making a generalization based on a few bad apples of, oh, let's say black kids doing bad things in MCPS, so let's just all assume those kids are bad. Right?
MCPS study on SROs was inconclusive; there were some pros and cons that they found. They wanted to continue the study but the Progressives like Elrich pulled the plug on the SRO funding before MCPS could complete their internal study.
DCPS is bringing back SROs; much of their leadership are black. MCPS needs to follows and bring back SROs. Bringing in more teachers isn't going to stop the uptick in violence or drug use in the bathrooms. Maybe if those kids went to class instead of doing drugs in the bathrooms, their grades would go up.
DCPS isn't bringing back SROs. 4 members of Council are making a proposal, with no guarantee of it passing
They are literally reversing course on a stance and policy they just passed a few years ago. How can you possess this much cognitive dissonance and function as an adult?
From the WaPo article:
"Four D.C. lawmakers are backing a proposal that would keep police officers in schools, reversing a measure that sought to remove law enforcement from campuses by 2025."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/02/dc-schools-sro-police-safety/
Maybe it will pass, maybe it will not. But you cannot claim as fact that they are bringing back SROs.
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:16
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
Yes, SROs haven't proven helpful when used at most schools in the US. The real problem appears to be the GOP blocking any common-sense gun reform.
absent any meaningful gun reforms, we need SROs. We can do both - advocate for gun reform and bring back SROs.
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:15
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
You keep bringing up two incidents that aren't related to MCPS, and make broad generalizations about SROs. It's like making a generalization based on a few bad apples of, oh, let's say black kids doing bad things in MCPS, so let's just all assume those kids are bad. Right?
MCPS study on SROs was inconclusive; there were some pros and cons that they found. They wanted to continue the study but the Progressives like Elrich pulled the plug on the SRO funding before MCPS could complete their internal study.
DCPS is bringing back SROs; much of their leadership are black. MCPS needs to follows and bring back SROs. Bringing in more teachers isn't going to stop the uptick in violence or drug use in the bathrooms. Maybe if those kids went to class instead of doing drugs in the bathrooms, their grades would go up.
DCPS isn't bringing back SROs. 4 members of Council are making a proposal, with no guarantee of it passing
They are literally reversing course on a stance and policy they just passed a few years ago. How can you possess this much cognitive dissonance and function as an adult?
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:14
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
Yes, SROs haven't proven helpful when used at most schools in the US. The real problem appears to be the GOP blocking any common-sense gun reform.
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:13
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
You keep bringing up two incidents that aren't related to MCPS, and make broad generalizations about SROs. It's like making a generalization based on a few bad apples of, oh, let's say black kids doing bad things in MCPS, so let's just all assume those kids are bad. Right?
MCPS study on SROs was inconclusive; there were some pros and cons that they found. They wanted to continue the study but the Progressives like Elrich pulled the plug on the SRO funding before MCPS could complete their internal study.
DCPS is bringing back SROs; much of their leadership are black. MCPS needs to follows and bring back SROs. Bringing in more teachers isn't going to stop the uptick in violence or drug use in the bathrooms. Maybe if those kids went to class instead of doing drugs in the bathrooms, their grades would go up.
DCPS isn't bringing back SROs. 4 members of Council are making a proposal, with no guarantee of it passing
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:09
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:How can people who don’t work in schools be against something principals unilaterally want? How can you be so presumptuous?
Why do we regulate or set rules about any sector? Everyone should just be able to regulate themselves as they see fit.
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:08
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:How can people who don’t work in schools be against something principals unilaterally want? How can you be so presumptuous?
Progressive liberals know better than the people with boots on the ground.
Elrich had to backtrack a bit and "allow" CEOs, rather than SROs.
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:08
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:How can people who don’t work in schools be against something principals unilaterally want? How can you be so presumptuous?
Because they are activists with a political agenda to advance. They don't care if the kids, or teachers, are collateral damage.
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:05
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
How can people who don’t work in schools be against something principals unilaterally want? How can you be so presumptuous?
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:05
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
Teachers also want security and safety. They're tired of being attacked like this:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/02/28/florida-high-school-nintendo-switch-attack/11363828002/
Or this:
https://www.yahoo.com/now/georgia-student-faces-criminal-charges-193813635.html
Teachers, parents and students are fairly united in wanting to go to school to learn. And they expect the school to have measures in place, like security officers or police, to intervene when individuals threaten the safety of the learning environment.
Only extreme activists, many of whom don't even have kids at all or kids in public schools, who care more about scoring political points and advancing their agenda than the wellbeing of students and staff say otherwise.
Anonymous
03/06/2023 10:04
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Sorry if I missed it but the American society of pediatrics needs to comment on how essential safe on-demand bathroom use is for adolescents. Rates of IBS /crowns are skyrocketing. Infants are born with more digestive problems than ever for a variety of reasons. Not to mention the menstrual issues. I remember donating to a program in East Africa that helped menstruating girls return to school. Insane that we have to think about this here
Anonymous
03/06/2023 09:54
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...
You keep bringing up two incidents that aren't related to MCPS, and make broad generalizations about SROs. It's like making a generalization based on a few bad apples of, oh, let's say black kids doing bad things in MCPS, so let's just all assume those kids are bad. Right?
MCPS study on SROs was inconclusive; there were some pros and cons that they found. They wanted to continue the study but the Progressives like Elrich pulled the plug on the SRO funding before MCPS could complete their internal study.
DCPS is bringing back SROs; much of their leadership are black. MCPS needs to follows and bring back SROs. Bringing in more teachers isn't going to stop the uptick in violence or drug use in the bathrooms. Maybe if those kids went to class instead of doing drugs in the bathrooms, their grades would go up.
Anonymous
03/06/2023 09:46
Subject: Re:Bathroom security announcement
Anonymous wrote:Not that I'm the staunchest supporter of the Bring Back SROs campaign, but it's worth noting that DCPS and the City Council are doing a 180 and going back to the SRO model after pledging to phase them out a few years earlier, which was similar to MoCo: https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-school-resource-officers-sros-city-council-reviewing-students-schools-crime-youth-violence-teens-washington-carjackings-shootings-police-mpd-safe-amendment-act-2023-trayon-white-vincent-gray-brooke-pinto-phil-mendelson-dmv#
Soooo....yeah. The talking point that SROs are unpopular and unwanted doesn't really hold water.
Too often, people want to run with policies that only work in an ideal state. Unfortunately, human beings aren't predictable and not always good. Security and safety have to be there to account for and protect for those instances.
That's odd since every study shows they're more of a liability to student safety. It's not like they did much good at Parkland or Uvalde when present for the student massacres, but if people would rather their taxes pay for bathroom attendants than teachers, then by all means...