Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone SEE the shooter? Look at his picture? THERE is your problem right there. He also advertised what he was planning on social media and not one person raised a red flag. He was even known to law enforcement. Nada.
There are an untold number of people in America who suffer from a form of mental illness. The overwhelming majority don’t commit mass murder. Some might get facial tattoos. Many are known to law enforcement from prior contacts. Some spend their waking hours posting crazy sh+t on the internet. (QAnon snyine?) some might even be what you consider to be unattractive. Nobody is monitoring every internet posting. And as far as we know he never explicitly threatened anyone. What’s your point?
He violated no law and none of the red flags in IL law. Law enforcement cannot monitor round the clock the 10s of millions of Americans with mental health issues. Ban the riffles.
Totally disagree. Our country has tipped way over trying to protect the rights of criminals and the mentally ill. They need to be insttutionalized, in group home supervision, and/or under forced medications.
People with mental illness aren’t to be equated with criminals. They have constitutional, civil and human rights. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know anything about congregate residential facilities for people with mental illness? Do you want one operating next door to your home? I didn’t think so. And most states closed their institutional facilities for people with mental illness and/or intellectual disabilities many years ago. Maybe you are the one who needs to be under forced medication.
1/3 of the country is diagnosed with a mental health illness every year. Probably higher since many go undiagnosed. We cant’t lock up or monitor 1/3 of the country.
We can lock up the more severe cases.
No, we really can’t. No one will take them and it’s virtually impossible to commit someone.
Plus it’s VERY difficult to treat someone or help someone who doesn’t want help, or is in denial if their chronic symptoms or formal diagnoses.
Many forms of cBT therapies - like dBt- must have 2+ sessions a week and one must graduate to the next module. Can take 12-24 months or you wash out for lack of effort.
Same for medications and lack of compliance. Do you think it’s fun for a sibling, spouse or elderly parent to get a mentally disordered adult to take their daily meds?
And then there’s the lies to get you away. Yes I did it, yes I took it, yes go away…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IT’S THE GUNS.
There are millions of things that could have contributed to this creep’s problems but only one cause: HE HAD EASY ACCESS TO MILITARY ASSAULT WEAPONS AND EXTENDED MAGAZINES.
+1 billion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty pro-constitution, but if we can't buy alcohol or cigarettes until age 21, why not add all guns too. I don't think it will stop all shootings, but it's something.
Then, we should look at why our society is growing looney tunes. Just look at him. WTF. What is happening to children? We cannot pretend a shift isn't occurring. A disintegration of humankind.
If you’re pro-constitutional you know the 2nd amendment never said you had the right to own guns. It said arms. And I can give you a long list of the arms we have already banned from nuclear to biological to firearms to explosives to lawn darts! And the ban was upheld before for assault rifles. It would be totally constitutional to ban these weapons and make them illegal to own along with extended magazines.
Further, no right is unfettered. It would totally be within the constitution to demand licensing and registering of any personal firearm.
People cannot "keep and bear" a nuke. It's not small or long arms people can keep and bear. In their arm per se. And it certainly didn't exist when the 2nd amendment was written. Rifles or muskets did. This was probably addressed by SCOTUS in the NY case a week ago.
Suitcase nuclear device.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone SEE the shooter? Look at his picture? THERE is your problem right there. He also advertised what he was planning on social media and not one person raised a red flag. He was even known to law enforcement. Nada.
There are an untold number of people in America who suffer from a form of mental illness. The overwhelming majority don’t commit mass murder. Some might get facial tattoos. Many are known to law enforcement from prior contacts. Some spend their waking hours posting crazy sh+t on the internet. (QAnon snyine?) some might even be what you consider to be unattractive. Nobody is monitoring every internet posting. And as far as we know he never explicitly threatened anyone. What’s your point?
He violated no law and none of the red flags in IL law. Law enforcement cannot monitor round the clock the 10s of millions of Americans with mental health issues. Ban the riffles.
Totally disagree. Our country has tipped way over trying to protect the rights of criminals and the mentally ill. They need to be insttutionalized, in group home supervision, and/or under forced medications.
People with mental illness aren’t to be equated with criminals. They have constitutional, civil and human rights. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know anything about congregate residential facilities for people with mental illness? Do you want one operating next door to your home? I didn’t think so. And most states closed their institutional facilities for people with mental illness and/or intellectual disabilities many years ago. Maybe you are the one who needs to be under forced medication.
1/3 of the country is diagnosed with a mental health illness every year. Probably higher since many go undiagnosed. We cant’t lock up or monitor 1/3 of the country.
We can lock up the more severe cases.
No, we really can’t. No one will take them and it’s virtually impossible to commit someone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty pro-constitution, but if we can't buy alcohol or cigarettes until age 21, why not add all guns too. I don't think it will stop all shootings, but it's something.
Then, we should look at why our society is growing looney tunes. Just look at him. WTF. What is happening to children? We cannot pretend a shift isn't occurring. A disintegration of humankind.
If you’re pro-constitutional you know the 2nd amendment never said you had the right to own guns. It said arms. And I can give you a long list of the arms we have already banned from nuclear to biological to firearms to explosives to lawn darts! And the ban was upheld before for assault rifles. It would be totally constitutional to ban these weapons and make them illegal to own along with extended magazines.
Further, no right is unfettered. It would totally be within the constitution to demand licensing and registering of any personal firearm.
People cannot "keep and bear" a nuke. It's not small or long arms people can keep and bear. In their arm per se. And it certainly didn't exist when the 2nd amendment was written. Rifles or muskets did. This was probably addressed by SCOTUS in the NY case a week ago.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty pro-constitution, but if we can't buy alcohol or cigarettes until age 21, why not add all guns too. I don't think it will stop all shootings, but it's something.
Then, we should look at why our society is growing looney tunes. Just look at him. WTF. What is happening to children? We cannot pretend a shift isn't occurring. A disintegration of humankind.
If you’re pro-constitutional you know the 2nd amendment never said you had the right to own guns. It said arms. And I can give you a long list of the arms we have already banned from nuclear to biological to firearms to explosives to lawn darts! And the ban was upheld before for assault rifles. It would be totally constitutional to ban these weapons and make them illegal to own along with extended magazines.
Further, no right is unfettered. It would totally be within the constitution to demand licensing and registering of any personal firearm.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone SEE the shooter? Look at his picture? THERE is your problem right there. He also advertised what he was planning on social media and not one person raised a red flag. He was even known to law enforcement. Nada.
There are an untold number of people in America who suffer from a form of mental illness. The overwhelming majority don’t commit mass murder. Some might get facial tattoos. Many are known to law enforcement from prior contacts. Some spend their waking hours posting crazy sh+t on the internet. (QAnon snyine?) some might even be what you consider to be unattractive. Nobody is monitoring every internet posting. And as far as we know he never explicitly threatened anyone. What’s your point?
He violated no law and none of the red flags in IL law. Law enforcement cannot monitor round the clock the 10s of millions of Americans with mental health issues. Ban the riffles.
Totally disagree. Our country has tipped way over trying to protect the rights of criminals and the mentally ill. They need to be insttutionalized, in group home supervision, and/or under forced medications.
People with mental illness aren’t to be equated with criminals. They have constitutional, civil and human rights. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know anything about congregate residential facilities for people with mental illness? Do you want one operating next door to your home? I didn’t think so. And most states closed their institutional facilities for people with mental illness and/or intellectual disabilities many years ago. Maybe you are the one who needs to be under forced medication.
1/3 of the country is diagnosed with a mental health illness every year. Probably higher since many go undiagnosed. We cant’t lock up or monitor 1/3 of the country.
We can lock up the more severe cases.
Anonymous wrote:
I cannot stop thinking about this. Look at this poor little boy’s face. My heart can’t take it.
Anonymous wrote:IT’S THE GUNS.
There are millions of things that could have contributed to this creep’s problems but only one cause: HE HAD EASY ACCESS TO MILITARY ASSAULT WEAPONS AND EXTENDED MAGAZINES.
Anonymous wrote:
I just read this somewhere else. Cannot stand it. Poor little sweetie. Gun nuts rot in hell.