Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents anywhere that support the change? If not, why is so much time being spent on this? Wont the parents/families have a say in this? I haven’t met anyone who supports any if these boundary changes.
There are two new high schools built and highschools that are overcrowded. They have to change boundaries to create student bodies for these new schools. So redistricting is necessary. They kicked the can down the road until this moment because parents and home owners didn't want any changes to protect their house prices. Should have done all this before Woodward even broke ground though to have a long process with details and data and population planning. But MCPS and the county in general do not plan more than 2 years out.
Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents anywhere that support the change? If not, why is so much time being spent on this? Wont the parents/families have a say in this? I haven’t met anyone who supports any if these boundary changes.
Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents anywhere that support the change? If not, why is so much time being spent on this? Wont the parents/families have a say in this? I haven’t met anyone who supports any if these boundary changes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else hear the rumors that they are shortening the process? Only giving a few options in October and one will be chosen as the final without further tweaks?
I heard at one of the MCCPTA area meetings this summer that they expect there to be two more options in October. But no one can know if there will be tweaks after that because the Superintendent will make his recommendation to the BOE (which could be a tweaked version of what his staff recommends to him) and the BOE can accept Taylor’s recommendation as is or with modifications. So no one can know at this point if whatever comes out in October will be tweaked before final adoption.
Thanks for the additional information. That feels like a shorter process than originally indicated.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else hear the rumors that they are shortening the process? Only giving a few options in October and one will be chosen as the final without further tweaks?
I heard at one of the MCCPTA area meetings this summer that they expect there to be two more options in October. But no one can know if there will be tweaks after that because the Superintendent will make his recommendation to the BOE (which could be a tweaked version of what his staff recommends to him) and the BOE can accept Taylor’s recommendation as is or with modifications. So no one can know at this point if whatever comes out in October will be tweaked before final adoption.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else hear the rumors that they are shortening the process? Only giving a few options in October and one will be chosen as the final without further tweaks?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.
I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.
Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.
Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).
Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis
Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.
MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.
DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.
Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.
In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.
That’s going to suck and families will bail.
Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.
DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.
The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.
It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.
Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.
It's not fine when Einstein doesn't really offer the necessary STEM classes for college prep. Have you seen their acceptance rate to UMD CP? It's not great.
No one's acceptance rate to UMD is "great," but Einstein's is comparable to or better than these other MCPS schools:
Einstein 39%
BCC 40%
Blair 38%
RM 25%
WJ 33%
Whitman 34%
Churchill 33%
Wootton 33%
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/09/10/mcps-students-college/
You have to look at the raw numbers not just the percentage.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.
I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.
Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.
Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).
Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis
Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.
MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.
DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.
Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.
In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.
That’s going to suck and families will bail.
Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.
DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.
The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.
It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.
Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.
It's not fine when Einstein doesn't really offer the necessary STEM classes for college prep. Have you seen their acceptance rate to UMD CP? It's not great.
No one's acceptance rate to UMD is "great," but Einstein's is comparable to or better than these other MCPS schools:
Einstein 39%
BCC 40%
Blair 38%
RM 25%
WJ 33%
Whitman 34%
Churchill 33%
Wootton 33%
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/09/10/mcps-students-college/
You have to look at the raw numbers not just the percentage.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.
I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.
Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.
Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).
Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis
Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.
MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.
DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.
Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.
In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.
That’s going to suck and families will bail.
Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.
DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.
The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.
It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.
Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.
It's not fine when Einstein doesn't really offer the necessary STEM classes for college prep. Have you seen their acceptance rate to UMD CP? It's not great.
No one's acceptance rate to UMD is "great," but Einstein's is comparable to or better than these other MCPS schools:
Einstein 39%
BCC 40%
Blair 38%
RM 25%
WJ 33%
Whitman 34%
Churchill 33%
Wootton 33%
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/09/10/mcps-students-college/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.
I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.
Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.
Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).
Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis
Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.
MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.
DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.
Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.
In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.
That’s going to suck and families will bail.
Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.
DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.
The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.
It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.
Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.
It's not fine when Einstein doesn't really offer the necessary STEM classes for college prep. Have you seen their acceptance rate to UMD CP? It's not great.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.
I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.
Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.
Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).
Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis
Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.
MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.
DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.
Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.
In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.
That’s going to suck and families will bail.
Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.
DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.
The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.
It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.
Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.
I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.
Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.
Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).
Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis
Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.
MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.
DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.
Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.
In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.
That’s going to suck and families will bail.
Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.
DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.
The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.
It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.
Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.
It's not fine when Einstein doesn't really offer the necessary STEM classes for college prep. Have you seen their acceptance rate to UMD CP? It's not great.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.
I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.
Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.
Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).
Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis
Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.
MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.
DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.
Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.
In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.
That’s going to suck and families will bail.
Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.
DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.
The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.
It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.
Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.
Anonymous wrote:But AP helps financially - 2 of our 3 kids have each graduated in 3 years rather than 4, saving us a small fortune in expenses. IB may be better in some ways, but it can't save $180,000k (2 years of college at full-pay, $90k each).