Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 23:00     Subject: Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This doesn't look like George Will to me:

Embedded in many top Democrats’ thinking as Biden appears headed toward a reelection campaign announcement, according to CNN’s conversations with three dozen leading Democrats, is fear that years of Harris negativity could now prove a political problem.

“Right now, she seems to be an albatross,” fretted one state Democratic Party chair who is concerned about Harris’ poll numbers and about Biden’s reelection chances. “She’s either going to be a liability or a help. And you better embrace her because it’s not like she’s going to be off the ticket.”

While Warren may not have meant to express doubts, the Zoom call organized by a onetime Biden Senate speechwriter and attended by Hollywood donors, executives and actors, including Helen Hunt, Ron Livingston and “Beverly Hills, 90210” star Gabrielle Carteris, was full of them.

Harris is a huge liability, they complained to former California Sen. Barbara Boxer, according to two people on the call. She would hurt Biden’s chances, because people will focus on her, given his age. How, one asked Boxer, do they get Biden to replace her?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/12/politics/kamala-harris-democratic-party/index.html


You guys complain about the media creating a narrative and then you have nothing else to talk about besides media created narratives.

It’s giving desperate.



Interviewing Democrats who did NOT want Kamala Harris on the ticket (and no doubt, still feel the same way), is the "media creating a narrative"? No, the narrative is that KH is the best candidate EVER! and so is Tim Walz!!! And don't you dare imply that just a few weeks ago, no one in their right mind thought that!
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:57     Subject: Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Old people singing on a porch is "cringey?" Wow, that's a pretty weird take.


If that exact same commercial had been a bunch of old people singing on a porch for Trump, you'd be hyperventilating with disgust.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:53     Subject: Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Old people singing on a porch is "cringey?" Wow, that's a pretty weird take.

You’re missing that they don’t menstruate anymore so they have no value.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:50     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He's right.....



I dislike Vance but if he talks like this during a TV debate, Walz will be in big troubles. Vance had a great press interview in WI as well. Vance makes every sentence count, while Walz rambles on like old fashion labor union activist.

This guy, when asked by a local yokel reporter “what makes you happy?” called that a bogus question and said he was angry. I’m not going to take his word about whatever he thinks “fake joy” is and I don’t think he’s very good at communications either.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:50     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

That was painful to watch. Talk about weird and cringey :oops:.


This is beyond cringe. OMG.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:44     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:He's right.....



I dislike Vance but if he talks like this during a TV debate, Walz will be in big troubles. Vance had a great press interview in WI as well. Vance makes every sentence count, while Walz rambles on like old fashion labor union activist.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:44     Subject: Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:This doesn't look like George Will to me:

Embedded in many top Democrats’ thinking as Biden appears headed toward a reelection campaign announcement, according to CNN’s conversations with three dozen leading Democrats, is fear that years of Harris negativity could now prove a political problem.

“Right now, she seems to be an albatross,” fretted one state Democratic Party chair who is concerned about Harris’ poll numbers and about Biden’s reelection chances. “She’s either going to be a liability or a help. And you better embrace her because it’s not like she’s going to be off the ticket.”

While Warren may not have meant to express doubts, the Zoom call organized by a onetime Biden Senate speechwriter and attended by Hollywood donors, executives and actors, including Helen Hunt, Ron Livingston and “Beverly Hills, 90210” star Gabrielle Carteris, was full of them.

Harris is a huge liability, they complained to former California Sen. Barbara Boxer, according to two people on the call. She would hurt Biden’s chances, because people will focus on her, given his age. How, one asked Boxer, do they get Biden to replace her?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/12/politics/kamala-harris-democratic-party/index.html


You guys complain about the media creating a narrative and then you have nothing else to talk about besides media created narratives.

It’s giving desperate.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:40     Subject: Kamala Harris for President


Old people singing on a porch is "cringey?" Wow, that's a pretty weird take.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:39     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

That was painful to watch. Talk about weird and cringey :oops:.

Making fun of old people in 2024 is not a great electoral strategy, but admittedly an improvement over killing old people in 2020.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:38     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting to take a short walk down memory lane.....
There have been many more like these in the past year. Amazing how the lemmings have fallen into line......

Sept., 2023
Columnists call for Biden to drop Harris, pick new running mate

Several columnists have an idea on how to make President Joe Biden more electable in 2024: Drop Vice President Kamala Harris and pick a new running mate.

Yes, voters think Biden may be too old to serve another four years, according to recent polls, but three columnists believe that a stronger running mate will gain traction in the country or even in the party.

In a piece urging Biden not to run again, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius suggested as a backup plan that Biden could replace Harris with Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass or Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo.

Ignatius says voters are sensibly focusing on Harris because of Biden’s age, while noting that Harris is less popular than Biden, with a 39.5 percent approval rating, according to the polling website FiveThirtyEight.

“Biden could encourage a more open vice-presidential selection process that could produce a stronger running mate,” Ignatius writes.

Biden himself has committed to Harris as his running mate for 2024. He said last year, “She’s going to be my running mate, No. 1. And No. 2, I did put her in charge. I think she’s doing a good job.”

In a New York Magazine Intelligencer column, Eric Levitz floats several options to replace Harris including Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) and Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-Ill.).

“To be sure, replacing Harris with another running mate is not a great option,” Levitz writes. “It’s just that Democrats have no good ones. It is risky to switch out the first Black and female vice-president for someone else. But it is also risky to saddle an 81-year-old nominee with an exceptionally unpopular running mate who — if all goes well — will be all but guaranteed the party’s nomination in 2028.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/13/columnists-biden-harris-new-running-mate-00115559


Jan., 2024
Biden Owes the Country a New Vice President

This brings me to the matter of Biden’s vice-presidential choice. Kamala Harris, the current holder of the post, shares with Henry Wallace progressive values and a proclivity to verbal infelicities. There are no indications that she would be soft on Russia or otherwise swerve—as Donald Trump has—from mainstream American foreign-policy tenets. But neither are there indications that she has developed, over her three years in the White House, any strong, recognizable convictions on America’s role in the world, or how Washington should exercise global leadership. Equally importantly, she has struggled mightily to move the public on any aspect of policy, even those policies—such as civil rights and immigration—on which she has taken an active interest or prominent role. While Republicans, most notably Donald Trump, have leveled, and will continue to level, ad hominem attacks and unsubstantiated charges against Harris, they will be amply justified in making her presence on the ticket a major campaign issue.
https://time.com/6589518/joe-biden-owes-the-country-new-vice-president/


Feb., 2024
Roosevelt fixed his serious VP mistake. Will Biden?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/23/franklin-roosevelt-changed-running-mates/




Fascinating how Harris supporters have yet to respond with anything substantive.


+1
The media has participated in a complete memory-holing of Democrats' loathing of Kamala Harris, right up until Biden withdrew. It's really quite something, this campaign to erase any prior low opinions of her and make sure everyone gets on board with the correct talking points.

When you offer up George Will it’s not evidence that Democrats loathe Kamala Harris.


Where did I "offer up George Will"? Do tell.

His is one of the linked columns saying that Biden should dump Harris. Sorry if you aren’t the PP who posted them.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:38     Subject: Kamala Harris for President

This doesn't look like George Will to me:

Embedded in many top Democrats’ thinking as Biden appears headed toward a reelection campaign announcement, according to CNN’s conversations with three dozen leading Democrats, is fear that years of Harris negativity could now prove a political problem.

“Right now, she seems to be an albatross,” fretted one state Democratic Party chair who is concerned about Harris’ poll numbers and about Biden’s reelection chances. “She’s either going to be a liability or a help. And you better embrace her because it’s not like she’s going to be off the ticket.”

While Warren may not have meant to express doubts, the Zoom call organized by a onetime Biden Senate speechwriter and attended by Hollywood donors, executives and actors, including Helen Hunt, Ron Livingston and “Beverly Hills, 90210” star Gabrielle Carteris, was full of them.

Harris is a huge liability, they complained to former California Sen. Barbara Boxer, according to two people on the call. She would hurt Biden’s chances, because people will focus on her, given his age. How, one asked Boxer, do they get Biden to replace her?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/12/politics/kamala-harris-democratic-party/index.html
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:35     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting to take a short walk down memory lane.....
There have been many more like these in the past year. Amazing how the lemmings have fallen into line......

Sept., 2023
Columnists call for Biden to drop Harris, pick new running mate

Several columnists have an idea on how to make President Joe Biden more electable in 2024: Drop Vice President Kamala Harris and pick a new running mate.

Yes, voters think Biden may be too old to serve another four years, according to recent polls, but three columnists believe that a stronger running mate will gain traction in the country or even in the party.

In a piece urging Biden not to run again, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius suggested as a backup plan that Biden could replace Harris with Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass or Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo.

Ignatius says voters are sensibly focusing on Harris because of Biden’s age, while noting that Harris is less popular than Biden, with a 39.5 percent approval rating, according to the polling website FiveThirtyEight.

“Biden could encourage a more open vice-presidential selection process that could produce a stronger running mate,” Ignatius writes.

Biden himself has committed to Harris as his running mate for 2024. He said last year, “She’s going to be my running mate, No. 1. And No. 2, I did put her in charge. I think she’s doing a good job.”

In a New York Magazine Intelligencer column, Eric Levitz floats several options to replace Harris including Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) and Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-Ill.).

“To be sure, replacing Harris with another running mate is not a great option,” Levitz writes. “It’s just that Democrats have no good ones. It is risky to switch out the first Black and female vice-president for someone else. But it is also risky to saddle an 81-year-old nominee with an exceptionally unpopular running mate who — if all goes well — will be all but guaranteed the party’s nomination in 2028.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/13/columnists-biden-harris-new-running-mate-00115559


Jan., 2024
Biden Owes the Country a New Vice President

This brings me to the matter of Biden’s vice-presidential choice. Kamala Harris, the current holder of the post, shares with Henry Wallace progressive values and a proclivity to verbal infelicities. There are no indications that she would be soft on Russia or otherwise swerve—as Donald Trump has—from mainstream American foreign-policy tenets. But neither are there indications that she has developed, over her three years in the White House, any strong, recognizable convictions on America’s role in the world, or how Washington should exercise global leadership. Equally importantly, she has struggled mightily to move the public on any aspect of policy, even those policies—such as civil rights and immigration—on which she has taken an active interest or prominent role. While Republicans, most notably Donald Trump, have leveled, and will continue to level, ad hominem attacks and unsubstantiated charges against Harris, they will be amply justified in making her presence on the ticket a major campaign issue.
https://time.com/6589518/joe-biden-owes-the-country-new-vice-president/


Feb., 2024
Roosevelt fixed his serious VP mistake. Will Biden?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/23/franklin-roosevelt-changed-running-mates/




Fascinating how Harris supporters have yet to respond with anything substantive.


+1
The media has participated in a complete memory-holing of Democrats' loathing of Kamala Harris, right up until Biden withdrew. It's really quite something, this campaign to erase any prior low opinions of her and make sure everyone gets on board with the correct talking points.


It must be frustrating to know nobody's forgetting her opponent is a sociopathic felon


It must be even more frustrating to know that almost half of voters think even less of Harris than a sociopathic felon.


It’s baffling but not unexpected. The American voting public is not the brightest bunch.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:32     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting to take a short walk down memory lane.....
There have been many more like these in the past year. Amazing how the lemmings have fallen into line......

Sept., 2023
Columnists call for Biden to drop Harris, pick new running mate

Several columnists have an idea on how to make President Joe Biden more electable in 2024: Drop Vice President Kamala Harris and pick a new running mate.

Yes, voters think Biden may be too old to serve another four years, according to recent polls, but three columnists believe that a stronger running mate will gain traction in the country or even in the party.

In a piece urging Biden not to run again, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius suggested as a backup plan that Biden could replace Harris with Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass or Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo.

Ignatius says voters are sensibly focusing on Harris because of Biden’s age, while noting that Harris is less popular than Biden, with a 39.5 percent approval rating, according to the polling website FiveThirtyEight.

“Biden could encourage a more open vice-presidential selection process that could produce a stronger running mate,” Ignatius writes.

Biden himself has committed to Harris as his running mate for 2024. He said last year, “She’s going to be my running mate, No. 1. And No. 2, I did put her in charge. I think she’s doing a good job.”

In a New York Magazine Intelligencer column, Eric Levitz floats several options to replace Harris including Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) and Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-Ill.).

“To be sure, replacing Harris with another running mate is not a great option,” Levitz writes. “It’s just that Democrats have no good ones. It is risky to switch out the first Black and female vice-president for someone else. But it is also risky to saddle an 81-year-old nominee with an exceptionally unpopular running mate who — if all goes well — will be all but guaranteed the party’s nomination in 2028.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/13/columnists-biden-harris-new-running-mate-00115559


Jan., 2024
Biden Owes the Country a New Vice President

This brings me to the matter of Biden’s vice-presidential choice. Kamala Harris, the current holder of the post, shares with Henry Wallace progressive values and a proclivity to verbal infelicities. There are no indications that she would be soft on Russia or otherwise swerve—as Donald Trump has—from mainstream American foreign-policy tenets. But neither are there indications that she has developed, over her three years in the White House, any strong, recognizable convictions on America’s role in the world, or how Washington should exercise global leadership. Equally importantly, she has struggled mightily to move the public on any aspect of policy, even those policies—such as civil rights and immigration—on which she has taken an active interest or prominent role. While Republicans, most notably Donald Trump, have leveled, and will continue to level, ad hominem attacks and unsubstantiated charges against Harris, they will be amply justified in making her presence on the ticket a major campaign issue.
https://time.com/6589518/joe-biden-owes-the-country-new-vice-president/


Feb., 2024
Roosevelt fixed his serious VP mistake. Will Biden?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/23/franklin-roosevelt-changed-running-mates/




Fascinating how Harris supporters have yet to respond with anything substantive.


+1
The media has participated in a complete memory-holing of Democrats' loathing of Kamala Harris, right up until Biden withdrew. It's really quite something, this campaign to erase any prior low opinions of her and make sure everyone gets on board with the correct talking points.


It must be frustrating to know nobody's forgetting her opponent is a sociopathic felon


It must be even more frustrating to know that almost half of voters think even less of Harris than a sociopathic felon.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:32     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting to take a short walk down memory lane.....
There have been many more like these in the past year. Amazing how the lemmings have fallen into line......

Sept., 2023
Columnists call for Biden to drop Harris, pick new running mate

Several columnists have an idea on how to make President Joe Biden more electable in 2024: Drop Vice President Kamala Harris and pick a new running mate.

Yes, voters think Biden may be too old to serve another four years, according to recent polls, but three columnists believe that a stronger running mate will gain traction in the country or even in the party.

In a piece urging Biden not to run again, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius suggested as a backup plan that Biden could replace Harris with Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass or Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo.

Ignatius says voters are sensibly focusing on Harris because of Biden’s age, while noting that Harris is less popular than Biden, with a 39.5 percent approval rating, according to the polling website FiveThirtyEight.

“Biden could encourage a more open vice-presidential selection process that could produce a stronger running mate,” Ignatius writes.

Biden himself has committed to Harris as his running mate for 2024. He said last year, “She’s going to be my running mate, No. 1. And No. 2, I did put her in charge. I think she’s doing a good job.”

In a New York Magazine Intelligencer column, Eric Levitz floats several options to replace Harris including Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) and Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-Ill.).

“To be sure, replacing Harris with another running mate is not a great option,” Levitz writes. “It’s just that Democrats have no good ones. It is risky to switch out the first Black and female vice-president for someone else. But it is also risky to saddle an 81-year-old nominee with an exceptionally unpopular running mate who — if all goes well — will be all but guaranteed the party’s nomination in 2028.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/13/columnists-biden-harris-new-running-mate-00115559


Jan., 2024
Biden Owes the Country a New Vice President

This brings me to the matter of Biden’s vice-presidential choice. Kamala Harris, the current holder of the post, shares with Henry Wallace progressive values and a proclivity to verbal infelicities. There are no indications that she would be soft on Russia or otherwise swerve—as Donald Trump has—from mainstream American foreign-policy tenets. But neither are there indications that she has developed, over her three years in the White House, any strong, recognizable convictions on America’s role in the world, or how Washington should exercise global leadership. Equally importantly, she has struggled mightily to move the public on any aspect of policy, even those policies—such as civil rights and immigration—on which she has taken an active interest or prominent role. While Republicans, most notably Donald Trump, have leveled, and will continue to level, ad hominem attacks and unsubstantiated charges against Harris, they will be amply justified in making her presence on the ticket a major campaign issue.
https://time.com/6589518/joe-biden-owes-the-country-new-vice-president/


Feb., 2024
Roosevelt fixed his serious VP mistake. Will Biden?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/23/franklin-roosevelt-changed-running-mates/




Fascinating how Harris supporters have yet to respond with anything substantive.


+1
The media has participated in a complete memory-holing of Democrats' loathing of Kamala Harris, right up until Biden withdrew. It's really quite something, this campaign to erase any prior low opinions of her and make sure everyone gets on board with the correct talking points.

When you offer up George Will it’s not evidence that Democrats loathe Kamala Harris.


Where did I "offer up George Will"? Do tell.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:24     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting to take a short walk down memory lane.....
There have been many more like these in the past year. Amazing how the lemmings have fallen into line......

Sept., 2023
Columnists call for Biden to drop Harris, pick new running mate

Several columnists have an idea on how to make President Joe Biden more electable in 2024: Drop Vice President Kamala Harris and pick a new running mate.

Yes, voters think Biden may be too old to serve another four years, according to recent polls, but three columnists believe that a stronger running mate will gain traction in the country or even in the party.

In a piece urging Biden not to run again, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius suggested as a backup plan that Biden could replace Harris with Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass or Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo.

Ignatius says voters are sensibly focusing on Harris because of Biden’s age, while noting that Harris is less popular than Biden, with a 39.5 percent approval rating, according to the polling website FiveThirtyEight.

“Biden could encourage a more open vice-presidential selection process that could produce a stronger running mate,” Ignatius writes.

Biden himself has committed to Harris as his running mate for 2024. He said last year, “She’s going to be my running mate, No. 1. And No. 2, I did put her in charge. I think she’s doing a good job.”

In a New York Magazine Intelligencer column, Eric Levitz floats several options to replace Harris including Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) and Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-Ill.).

“To be sure, replacing Harris with another running mate is not a great option,” Levitz writes. “It’s just that Democrats have no good ones. It is risky to switch out the first Black and female vice-president for someone else. But it is also risky to saddle an 81-year-old nominee with an exceptionally unpopular running mate who — if all goes well — will be all but guaranteed the party’s nomination in 2028.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/13/columnists-biden-harris-new-running-mate-00115559


Jan., 2024
Biden Owes the Country a New Vice President

This brings me to the matter of Biden’s vice-presidential choice. Kamala Harris, the current holder of the post, shares with Henry Wallace progressive values and a proclivity to verbal infelicities. There are no indications that she would be soft on Russia or otherwise swerve—as Donald Trump has—from mainstream American foreign-policy tenets. But neither are there indications that she has developed, over her three years in the White House, any strong, recognizable convictions on America’s role in the world, or how Washington should exercise global leadership. Equally importantly, she has struggled mightily to move the public on any aspect of policy, even those policies—such as civil rights and immigration—on which she has taken an active interest or prominent role. While Republicans, most notably Donald Trump, have leveled, and will continue to level, ad hominem attacks and unsubstantiated charges against Harris, they will be amply justified in making her presence on the ticket a major campaign issue.
https://time.com/6589518/joe-biden-owes-the-country-new-vice-president/


Feb., 2024
Roosevelt fixed his serious VP mistake. Will Biden?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/23/franklin-roosevelt-changed-running-mates/




Fascinating how Harris supporters have yet to respond with anything substantive.


+1
The media has participated in a complete memory-holing of Democrats' loathing of Kamala Harris, right up until Biden withdrew. It's really quite something, this campaign to erase any prior low opinions of her and make sure everyone gets on board with the correct talking points.

When you offer up George Will it’s not evidence that Democrats loathe Kamala Harris.