Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There were a couple that had the number of comments in 100s, which means 100s of the same comment within the same minute. It’s the first column after the comment that tells how many times the same thing was posted.
The whole comment nonsense was just horrible planning on the consultants part. Having a system where you can use anyone's address, type in whatever you want and for how many ever times you want, and then telling communities over and over again to use the comment tool if they want to be heard??? Complete sh+t show. None of this is valid, but honestly I don't think we can fault people for trying to 'beat' the only system they had to feel seen/heard.
SMH Reading all the comments from the Town of Vienna parents freaking out about their kids not going to Madison because it’s “the town’s high school.” Except it’s a county, not a town school. I’m a Vienna resident and love it but the TOV residents who act like Vienna and Madison are special are annoying AF. “Oh but my kid always dreamed of being a Warhawk!”
Um, really, FCPS should focus on creating "town" high schools as much as humanly possible.
Generational community connection to the high schools will significantly improve the quality of education at all of the FCPS schools.
Sure, that would be nice, but how many established “towns” are there in the county? Vienna, Mclean, Great Falls, Herndon, Clifton, Fairfax, Falls Church (not really parts of Ffx Co).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There were a couple that had the number of comments in 100s, which means 100s of the same comment within the same minute. It’s the first column after the comment that tells how many times the same thing was posted.
The whole comment nonsense was just horrible planning on the consultants part. Having a system where you can use anyone's address, type in whatever you want and for how many ever times you want, and then telling communities over and over again to use the comment tool if they want to be heard??? Complete sh+t show. None of this is valid, but honestly I don't think we can fault people for trying to 'beat' the only system they had to feel seen/heard.
SMH Reading all the comments from the Town of Vienna parents freaking out about their kids not going to Madison because it’s “the town’s high school.” Except it’s a county, not a town school. I’m a Vienna resident and love it but the TOV residents who act like Vienna and Madison are special are annoying AF. “Oh but my kid always dreamed of being a Warhawk!”
Um, really, FCPS should focus on creating "town" high schools as much as humanly possible.
Generational community connection to the high schools will significantly improve the quality of education at all of the FCPS schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Thoreau a significant split feeder to Madison, Oakton, and a little bit of Marshall? How are the kids from Wolftrap ES going to handle that or will they not make any new friends during those years!
That’s a different block of students.
Currently, Westbriar and Wolftrap feed 100% into Kilmer and then Kilmer goes on to split about 10-15% to Madison. Scenario 4 proposed sending all of Wolftrap to Thoreau/Madison and all of Westbriar to Kilmer/Marshall, which would have resolved 3 split feeders and kept their cohorts together.
The Thoreau/Marshall split feeder comes from Stenwood and Cunningham Park. About 40% of Stenwood goes to Thoreau because they’re in the walk radius and then sent to Marshall. So they make new friends for two years and then are sent back to their elementary cohort. The Cunningham Park kids get the worst deal. It’s a very small number of kids who spend K-8 in the Madison Pyramid and then go to Marshall for HS.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.
Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.
BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.
Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.
Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.
But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.
We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!
Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple
This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.
I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.
Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.
Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism
You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.
What's entitled is moving kids from one high school to another because you need them to boost the quality of the school you ruined with your own policies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There were a couple that had the number of comments in 100s, which means 100s of the same comment within the same minute. It’s the first column after the comment that tells how many times the same thing was posted.
The whole comment nonsense was just horrible planning on the consultants part. Having a system where you can use anyone's address, type in whatever you want and for how many ever times you want, and then telling communities over and over again to use the comment tool if they want to be heard??? Complete sh+t show. None of this is valid, but honestly I don't think we can fault people for trying to 'beat' the only system they had to feel seen/heard.
SMH Reading all the comments from the Town of Vienna parents freaking out about their kids not going to Madison because it’s “the town’s high school.” Except it’s a county, not a town school. I’m a Vienna resident and love it but the TOV residents who act like Vienna and Madison are special are annoying AF. “Oh but my kid always dreamed of being a Warhawk!”
Um, really, FCPS should focus on creating "town" high schools as much as humanly possible.
Generational community connection to the high schools will significantly improve the quality of education at all of the FCPS schools.
This is pretty bogus when those ToV families in NE Vienna send their kids to both an elementary school and a middle school that feed over 80% to Marshall, but they just have to stay zoned to Madison. It’s not about “community,” just property values.
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Thoreau a significant split feeder to Madison, Oakton, and a little bit of Marshall? How are the kids from Wolftrap ES going to handle that or will they not make any new friends during those years!
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Thoreau a significant split feeder to Madison, Oakton, and a little bit of Marshall? How are the kids from Wolftrap ES going to handle that or will they not make any new friends during those years!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There were a couple that had the number of comments in 100s, which means 100s of the same comment within the same minute. It’s the first column after the comment that tells how many times the same thing was posted.
The whole comment nonsense was just horrible planning on the consultants part. Having a system where you can use anyone's address, type in whatever you want and for how many ever times you want, and then telling communities over and over again to use the comment tool if they want to be heard??? Complete sh+t show. None of this is valid, but honestly I don't think we can fault people for trying to 'beat' the only system they had to feel seen/heard.
SMH Reading all the comments from the Town of Vienna parents freaking out about their kids not going to Madison because it’s “the town’s high school.” Except it’s a county, not a town school. I’m a Vienna resident and love it but the TOV residents who act like Vienna and Madison are special are annoying AF. “Oh but my kid always dreamed of being a Warhawk!”
Um, really, FCPS should focus on creating "town" high schools as much as humanly possible.
Generational community connection to the high schools will significantly improve the quality of education at all of the FCPS schools.
This is pretty bogus when those ToV families in NE Vienna send their kids to both an elementary school and a middle school that feed over 80% to Marshall, but they just have to stay zoned to Madison. It’s not about “community,” just property values.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.
Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.
BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.
Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.
Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.
But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.
We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!
Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple
This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.
I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.
Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.
Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism
You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.
DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.
Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.
BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.
Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.
Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.
But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.
We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!
Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple
This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.
I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.
Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.
Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism
You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now I'd like GFCA to put out a letter about their Western High scenario. I am guessing they are the ones who put in the comment into the boundary tool about moving McNair and Coates into Herndon HS. Which is never going to happen.
Cute conspiracy theory. They don’t have a position on the school. Most people in great falls don’t care about the school because it doesn’t affect us directly. There are a few people who question the costs for the school, just like the school board members have done recently.
BS. You don't speak for all of Great Falls nor does Fairfax Matters or the very limited number of persons who are on the GFCA. It's great that FCPS did this and spending 50m+ more to make it a solid AP comprehensive HS is a worthwhile use of our tax dollars for a county wide school division. Main complainer on Western is Meren. That one also voted NO on all MS having AAP. Lady likes the concept of a Loudoun style magnet BUT recognizes that this is a different situation since she stated there are 1700 students learning in trailers and 2 modulars in all involved schools. TJ as an option was created because FCPS had low enrollment at the site.
Those 2 modulars, Chantilly and Centreville, were installed in 2005. Churchill Rd has one that was installed in 2006 with a 280 student capacity. So as Tysons grows and empty nesters residences get replaced by k-12 there eventually could be an ES capacity deficit. 4 feeders had 533 less members in SY2024-25 than in SY2004-05. Spring Hill grew by 206.
Of course, I never claimed to speak for all of Great falls. fairfacts is a county-wide organization, so they certainly don’t speak for Great falls.
But note you’re trying to put words in my mouth, I’m just refuting the claim that Great falls was somehow against your community getting a new school, because no one has ever pointed to an actual statement from any GF organization to that effect. I just see people questioning the cost, just like, as you point out, meren has, and I’ll add Dunne has.
We all know that Fair Facts was started by and run by people in Great Falls. But Aren't there also TWO Great Falls Associations because they got in a fight? I would love someone to explain all the Great Falls drama sometime! How can one tiny part of the county have so much drama?? My part of town doesn't have a citizens association, no drama other than the Oakton moms!
Because of the history of the change. The real goal is to change Great Fall’s zoning. They don’t think we should own large lots, etc. what they don’t tell you is how much of GF is on well, septic, and propane. Part of it is also caving to the Tysons developers. They also don’t think we are diverse enough, but what they really mean is they don’t like our kind of diversity. They would like nothing more than to take GF land because they don’t like capitalism. It’s really that simple
This is a troll post. It’s true most of us want stability, but this post is intended to foment ill-will toward GF.
I wrote that post. I live in GF and I stand by what I say. There is already ill-will towards GF - nothing I say will change that.
Then you're posting nonsense. A fair number of the Great Falls residents aren't very sophisticated. They praise capitalism when it enriches them, but favor government intervention when it protects them. Zoning laws such as those that restrict growth in Great Falls are anti-capitalist because they inhibit private development that might otherwise take place.
Not true. When zoning laws are changed to favor socioeconomic and socialistic practices, that is not capitalism
You confuse privilege with capitalism. The mindset of many Great Falls residents has more to do with entitlement than capitalism.
DP. You confuse entitlement with community. Most of us love our community.
So do others, of course. It’s still quite a stretch to claim any reassignment of Great Falls kids, occasioned by economic growth in other parts of the county, is “anti-capitalist.”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There were a couple that had the number of comments in 100s, which means 100s of the same comment within the same minute. It’s the first column after the comment that tells how many times the same thing was posted.
The whole comment nonsense was just horrible planning on the consultants part. Having a system where you can use anyone's address, type in whatever you want and for how many ever times you want, and then telling communities over and over again to use the comment tool if they want to be heard??? Complete sh+t show. None of this is valid, but honestly I don't think we can fault people for trying to 'beat' the only system they had to feel seen/heard.
SMH Reading all the comments from the Town of Vienna parents freaking out about their kids not going to Madison because it’s “the town’s high school.” Except it’s a county, not a town school. I’m a Vienna resident and love it but the TOV residents who act like Vienna and Madison are special are annoying AF. “Oh but my kid always dreamed of being a Warhawk!”
Um, really, FCPS should focus on creating "town" high schools as much as humanly possible.
Generational community connection to the high schools will significantly improve the quality of education at all of the FCPS schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There were a couple that had the number of comments in 100s, which means 100s of the same comment within the same minute. It’s the first column after the comment that tells how many times the same thing was posted.
The whole comment nonsense was just horrible planning on the consultants part. Having a system where you can use anyone's address, type in whatever you want and for how many ever times you want, and then telling communities over and over again to use the comment tool if they want to be heard??? Complete sh+t show. None of this is valid, but honestly I don't think we can fault people for trying to 'beat' the only system they had to feel seen/heard.
SMH Reading all the comments from the Town of Vienna parents freaking out about their kids not going to Madison because it’s “the town’s high school.” Except it’s a county, not a town school. I’m a Vienna resident and love it but the TOV residents who act like Vienna and Madison are special are annoying AF. “Oh but my kid always dreamed of being a Warhawk!”
Um, really, FCPS should focus on creating "town" high schools as much as humanly possible.
Generational community connection to the high schools will significantly improve the quality of education at all of the FCPS schools.
+1. Community isn’t just an afterthought, it’s what draws people to public schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There were a couple that had the number of comments in 100s, which means 100s of the same comment within the same minute. It’s the first column after the comment that tells how many times the same thing was posted.
The whole comment nonsense was just horrible planning on the consultants part. Having a system where you can use anyone's address, type in whatever you want and for how many ever times you want, and then telling communities over and over again to use the comment tool if they want to be heard??? Complete sh+t show. None of this is valid, but honestly I don't think we can fault people for trying to 'beat' the only system they had to feel seen/heard.
SMH Reading all the comments from the Town of Vienna parents freaking out about their kids not going to Madison because it’s “the town’s high school.” Except it’s a county, not a town school. I’m a Vienna resident and love it but the TOV residents who act like Vienna and Madison are special are annoying AF. “Oh but my kid always dreamed of being a Warhawk!”
Um, really, FCPS should focus on creating "town" high schools as much as humanly possible.
Generational community connection to the high schools will significantly improve the quality of education at all of the FCPS schools.