Anonymous
Post 09/21/2022 07:18     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:“Beclowns himself with panache” is not only great writing, it’s accurate for the situation.

Very much this. Well done.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2022 06:57     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

“Beclowns himself with panache” is not only great writing, it’s accurate for the situation.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2022 04:23     Subject: Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

When will the 11th circuit decide on the appeal?
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2022 00:04     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL


Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.


Turley is this close to figuring out that Trump’s lawyers won’t engage in subordination of perjury. The man beclowns himself with panache.


Can you explain subordination of perjury? You mean the lawyers know that the documents are not, in fact, declassified so they won't get involved in saying that they were?


It is a federal crime to introduce, or cause to be introduced, testimony or other evidence, including an affidavit, known to be materially false.

+1
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 22:53     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL


Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.


Turley is this close to figuring out that Trump’s lawyers won’t engage in subordination of perjury. The man beclowns himself with panache.


Can you explain subordination of perjury? You mean the lawyers know that the documents are not, in fact, declassified so they won't get involved in saying that they were?


Dearie is taking the view, along with other radical views like water is wet, that documents marked with proper government classification are in fact classified. So the burden of proof is going to be on Trump to prove he declassified them, and how, when, where, etc. So either Trump submits a sworn declaration (under penalty of perjury) and/or he gets others to swear under oath that they witnessed the declassification. If the lawyers know these people are lying, as they clearly would be, then submitting their statements under oath with be suborning perjury, which is a big no no.


Isn't it what they're doing lying? The inference is that the documents were declassified.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 22:07     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL


Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.


Turley is this close to figuring out that Trump’s lawyers won’t engage in subordination of perjury. The man beclowns himself with panache.


Can you explain subordination of perjury? You mean the lawyers know that the documents are not, in fact, declassified so they won't get involved in saying that they were?


Dearie is taking the view, along with other radical views like water is wet, that documents marked with proper government classification are in fact classified. So the burden of proof is going to be on Trump to prove he declassified them, and how, when, where, etc. So either Trump submits a sworn declaration (under penalty of perjury) and/or he gets others to swear under oath that they witnessed the declassification. If the lawyers know these people are lying, as they clearly would be, then submitting their statements under oath with be suborning perjury, which is a big no no.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 21:32     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Red state AGs are throwing an epic temper tantrum in the 11th Circuit proceeding. They filed the amicus brief linked below saying the 11th Circuit should deny the stay because of illegal immigration, the covid eviction moratorium, vaccine mandates, social media companies removing disinformation from their platforms, and "gain for function" research funding in Wuhan. It's like a greatest hits record of MAGA snowflake outrage.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/executive-management/2022.09.20%20-%20States%20Amicus%20Brief%20(as%20filed).pdf


That's just embarrassing.


Of course this charge is being led by an AG who should be in prison.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-05-23/seven-years-later-still-no-trial-for-texas-ag-ken-paxton


Goodness. I had no idea. The GOP has such a deep bench of shameless candidates. It's like playing whack-a-mole.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 21:21     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Red state AGs are throwing an epic temper tantrum in the 11th Circuit proceeding. They filed the amicus brief linked below saying the 11th Circuit should deny the stay because of illegal immigration, the covid eviction moratorium, vaccine mandates, social media companies removing disinformation from their platforms, and "gain for function" research funding in Wuhan. It's like a greatest hits record of MAGA snowflake outrage.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/executive-management/2022.09.20%20-%20States%20Amicus%20Brief%20(as%20filed).pdf


That's just embarrassing.


Of course this charge is being led by an AG who should be in prison.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-05-23/seven-years-later-still-no-trial-for-texas-ag-ken-paxton


It's Texas. It's not like they care about public corruption, that's Sunday sport in Texas.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 20:53     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Red state AGs are throwing an epic temper tantrum in the 11th Circuit proceeding. They filed the amicus brief linked below saying the 11th Circuit should deny the stay because of illegal immigration, the covid eviction moratorium, vaccine mandates, social media companies removing disinformation from their platforms, and "gain for function" research funding in Wuhan. It's like a greatest hits record of MAGA snowflake outrage.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/executive-management/2022.09.20%20-%20States%20Amicus%20Brief%20(as%20filed).pdf


That's just embarrassing.


Of course this charge is being led by an AG who should be in prison.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-05-23/seven-years-later-still-no-trial-for-texas-ag-ken-paxton
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 20:35     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Red state AGs are throwing an epic temper tantrum in the 11th Circuit proceeding. They filed the amicus brief linked below saying the 11th Circuit should deny the stay because of illegal immigration, the covid eviction moratorium, vaccine mandates, social media companies removing disinformation from their platforms, and "gain for function" research funding in Wuhan. It's like a greatest hits record of MAGA snowflake outrage.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/executive-management/2022.09.20%20-%20States%20Amicus%20Brief%20(as%20filed).pdf


Not a lawyer but this seems...highly irregular. Don't documents submitted to a court generally stick to the matter and facts at hand????


Amici briefs can be specific to the facts at hand but they are often related to other considerations including policy and other wider issues.


DP. This is correct, but the MAGA AGs have gone beyond that into crazytown.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 20:14     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Red state AGs are throwing an epic temper tantrum in the 11th Circuit proceeding. They filed the amicus brief linked below saying the 11th Circuit should deny the stay because of illegal immigration, the covid eviction moratorium, vaccine mandates, social media companies removing disinformation from their platforms, and "gain for function" research funding in Wuhan. It's like a greatest hits record of MAGA snowflake outrage.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/executive-management/2022.09.20%20-%20States%20Amicus%20Brief%20(as%20filed).pdf


Not a lawyer but this seems...highly irregular. Don't documents submitted to a court generally stick to the matter and facts at hand????


Amici briefs can be specific to the facts at hand but they are often related to other considerations including policy and other wider issues.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 20:07     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:Red state AGs are throwing an epic temper tantrum in the 11th Circuit proceeding. They filed the amicus brief linked below saying the 11th Circuit should deny the stay because of illegal immigration, the covid eviction moratorium, vaccine mandates, social media companies removing disinformation from their platforms, and "gain for function" research funding in Wuhan. It's like a greatest hits record of MAGA snowflake outrage.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/executive-management/2022.09.20%20-%20States%20Amicus%20Brief%20(as%20filed).pdf


Not a lawyer but this seems...highly irregular. Don't documents submitted to a court generally stick to the matter and facts at hand????
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 20:00     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:Red state AGs are throwing an epic temper tantrum in the 11th Circuit proceeding. They filed the amicus brief linked below saying the 11th Circuit should deny the stay because of illegal immigration, the covid eviction moratorium, vaccine mandates, social media companies removing disinformation from their platforms, and "gain for function" research funding in Wuhan. It's like a greatest hits record of MAGA snowflake outrage.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/executive-management/2022.09.20%20-%20States%20Amicus%20Brief%20(as%20filed).pdf


That's just embarrassing.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 19:57     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Red state AGs are throwing an epic temper tantrum in the 11th Circuit proceeding. They filed the amicus brief linked below saying the 11th Circuit should deny the stay because of illegal immigration, the covid eviction moratorium, vaccine mandates, social media companies removing disinformation from their platforms, and "gain for function" research funding in Wuhan. It's like a greatest hits record of MAGA snowflake outrage.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/executive-management/2022.09.20%20-%20States%20Amicus%20Brief%20(as%20filed).pdf
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2022 18:15     Subject: Re:Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL


Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.


Turley is this close to figuring out that Trump’s lawyers won’t engage in subordination of perjury. The man beclowns himself with panache.


Can you explain subordination of perjury? You mean the lawyers know that the documents are not, in fact, declassified so they won't get involved in saying that they were?


It is a federal crime to introduce, or cause to be introduced, testimony or other evidence, including an affidavit, known to be materially false.


Subordination prosecutions are rare but would you put your license to practice law on the line for Trump in a circumstance such as this? It appears none of them will do so. They gave away the game.


And what else is fresh in their minds? Trump jammed up Bobb — and potentially Corcoran — by allowing them to make false representations on his behalf about classified documents at MAL. He likely disqualified them as they are now potentially under investigation as DOJ itself has pointed out.