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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL

Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.

Turley is this close to figuring out that Trump’s lawyers won’t engage in subordination of perjury. The man beclowns himself with panache.

Can you explain subordination of perjury? You mean the lawyers know that the documents are not, in fact, declassified so they won't get involved in saying that they were?

It is a federal crime to introduce, or cause to be introduced, testimony or other evidence, including an affidavit, known to be materially false.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL

Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.

Turley is this close to figuring out that Trump’s lawyers won’t engage in subordination of perjury. The man beclowns himself with panache.

Can you explain subordination of perjury? You mean the lawyers know that the documents are not, in fact, declassified so they won't get involved in saying that they were?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL

Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL

Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.

Turley is this close to figuring out that Trump’s lawyers won’t engage in subordination of perjury. The man beclowns himself with panache.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL

Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL

Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL

Most of us find this hysterical but of course Jonathan Turley seems bewildered.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it hysterical that Trump claims all the material was declassified, but when the Special Master that Trump insisted on is now asking if it was declassified by Trump, his legal team is refusing to provide that info.

Once again, Trump's stupidity getting in his own way. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:So what are the odds on whether they go to Cannon immediately to get Dearie fired, or whether they wait a couple weeks?

They asked for Dearie. They got Dearie. They need to ride the dragon and then take their chances with Cannon once he issues his report. Doesn’t seem like it will take very long to address a. Sad mall number of attorney-client comms and some “personal items.” A throuple of weeks at most.

That's not going to serve their delay tactics well, so they're going to need to find a way to muck up what Dearie is doing or get him tossed. I bet they fool around with the protective order issues and whatnot and see what they can get away with. They will try to gin up some issues that they can appeal to Cannon.

Well, they haven’t addressed the “executive privilege” and continue to dance around declassification, which Dearie deftly swatted away die to the lack of evidence and it not being an exercise in which the court should engage. He’s not inclined to talk to NARA so the pickings are pretty slim at this point assuming the a/c disputes are resolved quickly, as they should be. They appear to have really misplayed their hand with a no-nonsense senior judge having FISA experience. There may not be enough rope in Florida for Cannon to throw them a lifeline.

Trump's lawyers specialize in spewing non-sense. I am confident in their ability to come up many many crazy arguments that Cannon will then agree with.

Kise May prove to be a moderating influence. I don’t get the sense he’s UltraMAGA and willing to burn his career to the waterline. Corcoran and Hallugan were conspicuously not on the brief filed with the 11th Circuit today. Why not?

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Anonymous wrote:So what are the odds on whether they go to Cannon immediately to get Dearie fired, or whether they wait a couple weeks?

They asked for Dearie. They got Dearie. They need to ride the dragon and then take their chances with Cannon once he issues his report. Doesn’t seem like it will take very long to address a. Sad mall number of attorney-client comms and some “personal items.” A throuple of weeks at most.

That's not going to serve their delay tactics well, so they're going to need to find a way to muck up what Dearie is doing or get him tossed. I bet they fool around with the protective order issues and whatnot and see what they can get away with. They will try to gin up some issues that they can appeal to Cannon.

Well, they haven’t addressed the “executive privilege” and continue to dance around declassification, which Dearie deftly swatted away die to the lack of evidence and it not being an exercise in which the court should engage. He’s not inclined to talk to NARA so the pickings are pretty slim at this point assuming the a/c disputes are resolved quickly, as they should be. They appear to have really misplayed their hand with a no-nonsense senior judge having FISA experience. There may not be enough rope in Florida for Cannon to throw them a lifeline.

Trump's lawyers specialize in spewing non-sense. I am confident in their ability to come up many many crazy arguments that Cannon will then agree with.

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Anonymous wrote:Want a good laugh (and get a headache?)? Dial into the Special Master status conference phone line and listen to a bunch of people who don't know how to mute.

can you share the phone number?

It doesn't appear they're streaming the hearing on the call-in line because so many nuts called in and sang songs and yelled stuff.

From Adam Klasfield in the courtroom
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1572286157211287552

Big from Dearie:

He presses Trump’s lawyers on what he’s supposed to do. The government provided “prima facie evidence” of classification, ie, the markings.

“As far as I’m concerned, that’s the end of it.”

Trusty asserts his litigation position isn’t “gamesmanship.” He just needs to see the documents first.

Dearie needles, drily, that Trusty would wouldn’t engage in gamesmanship.

Trusty adds, earnestly, that he wouldn’t.

Just too funny. They want the special master to determine this is not classified, privileged, Trump's personal property, etc., but they refuse to submit any evidence at all. Have these jokes of lawyers ever heard of the burden of proof?

They know exactly what they’re doing, which is what their client is instructing. Trump is listening to Fitton. They will have advised Trump as to the likely outcome. They just need to take care not to mislead Dearie. They can’t submit an affidavit regarding declassification because it would constitute perjury. And they can’t make any affirmative representations about declassification without being sanctioned for committing a fraud upon the court. They find themselves between a rock and a hard place. Who could have foreseen this other than literally everyone?

This legit made me LOL. Honestly, how does trump continue to find lawyers? It's not like they are doing it for the money - because he never pays his legal bills.

Florida Man at least secured a $3 million retainer. Trump considers most of his lawyers to be just another chump who can be stiffed when he’s footing the bill. He seems to recognize this matter is now a BFD.

Why should he pay a lawyer who says trump has sovereign immunity?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what are the odds on whether they go to Cannon immediately to get Dearie fired, or whether they wait a couple weeks?

They asked for Dearie. They got Dearie. They need to ride the dragon and then take their chances with Cannon once he issues his report. Doesn’t seem like it will take very long to address a. Sad mall number of attorney-client comms and some “personal items.” A throuple of weeks at most.

That's not going to serve their delay tactics well, so they're going to need to find a way to muck up what Dearie is doing or get him tossed. I bet they fool around with the protective order issues and whatnot and see what they can get away with. They will try to gin up some issues that they can appeal to Cannon.

Well, they haven’t addressed the “executive privilege” and continue to dance around declassification, which Dearie deftly swatted away die to the lack of evidence and it not being an exercise in which the court should engage. He’s not inclined to talk to NARA so the pickings are pretty slim at this point assuming the a/c disputes are resolved quickly, as they should be. They appear to have really misplayed their hand with a no-nonsense senior judge having FISA experience. There may not be enough rope in Florida for Cannon to throw them a lifeline.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Want a good laugh (and get a headache?)? Dial into the Special Master status conference phone line and listen to a bunch of people who don't know how to mute.

can you share the phone number?

It doesn't appear they're streaming the hearing on the call-in line because so many nuts called in and sang songs and yelled stuff.

From Adam Klasfield in the courtroom
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1572286157211287552

Big from Dearie:

He presses Trump’s lawyers on what he’s supposed to do. The government provided “prima facie evidence” of classification, ie, the markings.

“As far as I’m concerned, that’s the end of it.”

Trusty asserts his litigation position isn’t “gamesmanship.” He just needs to see the documents first.

Dearie needles, drily, that Trusty would wouldn’t engage in gamesmanship.

Trusty adds, earnestly, that he wouldn’t.

Just too funny. They want the special master to determine this is not classified, privileged, Trump's personal property, etc., but they refuse to submit any evidence at all. Have these jokes of lawyers ever heard of the burden of proof?

They know exactly what they’re doing, which is what their client is instructing. Trump is listening to Fitton. They will have advised Trump as to the likely outcome. They just need to take care not to mislead Dearie. They can’t submit an affidavit regarding declassification because it would constitute perjury. And they can’t make any affirmative representations about declassification without being sanctioned for committing a fraud upon the court. They find themselves between a rock and a hard place. Who could have foreseen this other than literally everyone?

This legit made me LOL. Honestly, how does trump continue to find lawyers? It's not like they are doing it for the money - because he never pays his legal bills.

Florida Man at least secured a $3 million retainer. Trump considers most of his lawyers to be just another chump who can be stiffed when he’s footing the bill. He seems to recognize this matter is now a BFD.