Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 21:04     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speed, Size and strength can beat skill. Ask any girl who plays soccer with boys after puberty.


This oversimplifies things. In a soccer match played by the rules, a team of small but highly skilled professional female soccer players will run circles around a team of big, fast, and strong male basketball players. But it’s also true that a team of highly skilled professional female soccer players will struggle against a team of somewhat less skilled male soccer players. At some point the skill advantage is not enough to overcome the speed/size/strength disadvantage. The question is where those lines cross.


No. The basketball players would still win.

But you can easily see this in games. If a striker of an opposing team is faster than the fullbacks, good luck winning. I don't care how skilled your fullback is, he/she better be fast. You can't use your technical skills to stop someone that you can't catch.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 20:55     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speed, Size and strength can beat skill. Ask any girl who plays soccer with boys after puberty.


This oversimplifies things. In a soccer match played by the rules, a team of small but highly skilled professional female soccer players will run circles around a team of big, fast, and strong male basketball players. But it’s also true that a team of highly skilled professional female soccer players will struggle against a team of somewhat less skilled male soccer players. At some point the skill advantage is not enough to overcome the speed/size/strength disadvantage. The question is where those lines cross.


Flat out wrong.. the women would be lucky to get a shot off if we are talking highly skilled bball players. Ie large fast and physical men.. sorry u are dilusional.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 20:46     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Speed, Size and strength can beat skill. Ask any girl who plays soccer with boys after puberty.


This oversimplifies things. In a soccer match played by the rules, a team of small but highly skilled professional female soccer players will run circles around a team of big, fast, and strong male basketball players. But it’s also true that a team of highly skilled professional female soccer players will struggle against a team of somewhat less skilled male soccer players. At some point the skill advantage is not enough to overcome the speed/size/strength disadvantage. The question is where those lines cross.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 20:31     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Any thoughts on how Union divorce and FVU marriage will impact MYS 2013Gs next year, if at all?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 20:29     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Speed, Size and strength can beat skill. Ask any girl who plays soccer with boys after puberty.


Or womens national team playing U15s…
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 20:23     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Speed, Size and strength can beat skill. Ask any girl who plays soccer with boys after puberty.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 20:17     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

“You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it “

“WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).


I beg to differ on the speed comment. Some just have it. I hope your DD is not one of the slow ones and in your head your can go to Healthy Baller to train to be the fastest on the team. Give yourself a break and save your money. Will she improve maybe but will never be some of the fastest kids on the team.

The USWNT have issues with politics that is why they are falling behind. They have young talent that are technical and fast but are not called up since the selection is not merit based. They keep calling and playing the same old players that are passed their prime. In European, selection is mostly based on merit with a few exceptions.

Pep already knows talent wins games that is why Man City has spend a lot of money buying these players. They are stacked with studs. Even if Pep were to coach Union 2011G, Arlington will still win... not enough talent on the team. You would not even want that as the first day he comes 3/4th of the team will be let go. As good as he is, he knows he is not a miracle worker and needs talent to win.



Speed is not a skill. Size is not a skill. Strength is not a skill.
Kids can train out imperfections in running form and max their natural ability. But you simply can’t train speed as a skill for improvement.

Pep’s team is littered with speed and size. His “coaching” is based on identifying and paying transfer fees for fully developed adults and implementing them into a system. Haaland is size and speed and not so much skill.

USWNT is really a politics game and they keep players too long. Emma Hayes is quite a character herself.


Somebody must have a slow kid..speed is an inherent genetic attribute. Its not a skill.. everyone has a top speed and training can get you to your max.. but others max is always going to be higher. I will always pick the athletes over a slow and/or small but technical skilled player. Need to get to the ball and not get pushed off else it doesnt matter.


While I agree with you on some points. I disagree on size. Just remember the Barcelona team of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta , Jordo Alba or even today with Gavi and Pedro. A small techno player will not even let the big player push him/her off the ball because the other player won’t even have the time to get to the player. By the time they run, the ball is already gone. That is how Barcelona beat big and fast English teams. Small, technical and moving the ball fast is the beautiful game. Chasing and pushing is rugby or football.
thoses players are rare exceptions to the rule. Not generally typical. Your kids most likely not going to be a messi. Speed and Size are separator’s
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 19:56     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

“You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it “

“WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).


I beg to differ on the speed comment. Some just have it. I hope your DD is not one of the slow ones and in your head your can go to Healthy Baller to train to be the fastest on the team. Give yourself a break and save your money. Will she improve maybe but will never be some of the fastest kids on the team.

The USWNT have issues with politics that is why they are falling behind. They have young talent that are technical and fast but are not called up since the selection is not merit based. They keep calling and playing the same old players that are passed their prime. In European, selection is mostly based on merit with a few exceptions.

Pep already knows talent wins games that is why Man City has spend a lot of money buying these players. They are stacked with studs. Even if Pep were to coach Union 2011G, Arlington will still win... not enough talent on the team. You would not even want that as the first day he comes 3/4th of the team will be let go. As good as he is, he knows he is not a miracle worker and needs talent to win.



Speed is not a skill. Size is not a skill. Strength is not a skill.
Kids can train out imperfections in running form and max their natural ability. But you simply can’t train speed as a skill for improvement.

Pep’s team is littered with speed and size. His “coaching” is based on identifying and paying transfer fees for fully developed adults and implementing them into a system. Haaland is size and speed and not so much skill.

USWNT is really a politics game and they keep players too long. Emma Hayes is quite a character herself.


Somebody must have a slow kid..speed is an inherent genetic attribute. Its not a skill.. everyone has a top speed and training can get you to your max.. but others max is always going to be higher. I will always pick the athletes over a slow and/or small but technical skilled player. Need to get to the ball and not get pushed off else it doesnt matter.


While I agree with you on some points. I disagree on size. Just remember the Barcelona team of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta , Jordo Alba or even today with Gavi and Pedro. A small techno player will not even let the big player push him/her off the ball because the other player won’t even have the time to get to the player. By the time they run, the ball is already gone. That is how Barcelona beat big and fast English teams. Small, technical and moving the ball fast is the beautiful game. Chasing and pushing is rugby or football.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 17:17     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Finkle is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkle!
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 16:04     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Brave is Vienna + BRYC. Duh
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 13:54     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
What merger? MYS did not merge. It dissolved its ECNL team and helped co-create a new ECNL team with Brave and Vienna. There was no merger. MYS was not merged into FVU.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 13:45     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:There are some posters on here with legitimate questions and are here in good faith. There are others who have some sort of agenda. It’s annoying and it could be fixed if this wasn’t an anonymous forum.

Many parents are just trying to figure this all out. I know people who are moving their kids to different clubs. Some of the moves are just to find something stable for their kids, which is probably the right way to be thinking about it. I don’t think people are moving their kids to find the “winningest” team, but rather, a stable program that can help their kids develop. With all the changes and instability this year, I don’t blame anyone moving their kid. Each has to find the right fit. FVU and the three programs that feed into it might be a great option for one family, but not a great option for another family.

On the point above regarding commuting times, it would help if clubs interested in recruiting top players from MYS/Brave teams if they could schedule practices on fields closer to where families on the team live, rather than just scheduling practices on the same fields each year. For example, if Arlington wants to recruit some of these MYS families, they could schedule practices in North Arlington for the top teams rather than scheduling practices at Long Bridge. Same for other programs looking to take advantage of all this turmoil and recruit top players from MYS/Brave teams.


You assume top players would living in Mclean/ N Arlington..... Have you ever thought that maybe these kids are coming from all over the place, DC, MD or wait S Arlington (shocking I know). You are coming off very entitled.

I would assume the same that Mclean practice should stay in Mclean but since it's a merger of the club, they are going to split the practices locations.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 13:22     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
There are some posters on here with legitimate questions and are here in good faith. There are others who have some sort of agenda. It’s annoying and it could be fixed if this wasn’t an anonymous forum.

Many parents are just trying to figure this all out. I know people who are moving their kids to different clubs. Some of the moves are just to find something stable for their kids, which is probably the right way to be thinking about it. I don’t think people are moving their kids to find the “winningest” team, but rather, a stable program that can help their kids develop. With all the changes and instability this year, I don’t blame anyone moving their kid. Each has to find the right fit. FVU and the three programs that feed into it might be a great option for one family, but not a great option for another family.

On the point above regarding commuting times, it would help if clubs interested in recruiting top players from MYS/Brave teams if they could schedule practices on fields closer to where families on the team live, rather than just scheduling practices on the same fields each year. For example, if Arlington wants to recruit some of these MYS families, they could schedule practices in North Arlington for the top teams rather than scheduling practices at Long Bridge. Same for other programs looking to take advantage of all this turmoil and recruit top players from MYS/Brave teams.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 13:21     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people and your silly stories about little kids. In just a few short years you will realize that none of this matters and you will have wasted cycles for nothing. Find the right fit for kid. Where they are challenged, and play with/against good competition. Find a coach that believes in him/her. Do outside training as often as possible. The rest is just silly nonsense bickering amongst parents to see who can say they are the "best" team.
Give it time. You'll eventually come to understand that I'm right.


No you are right. I think we are just trying to determine what team is the best for our kids and that comes across here as nonsense bickering because a lot of it is speculative. We are trying to predict the future with our kids best fit in mind but that leads to disagreements. All fine, that is why we are here but that doesn't mean we shouldnt post.


And the stakes are high if your kid already plays for the closest club. Who wants an hour commute each way 3 times a week for practice.


Unfortunately, some people have to travel that far for good coaching with the ability to play within MLSN/ECNL/GA. Especially in Southern MD
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2024 13:15     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:

“You can't teach speed, atlethism and aggressivness. Kids are born with it. They can improve their speed by training but will never be as fast as a person that was born with it “

“WRONG!!!
speed is a skill. Nobody is born with speed .
Big bodies and aggressiveness is why USWNT is falling behind at the international stage in front of much faster and technical teams like Spain. Same goes for men too. Just ask pep guardiola. Being big and chasing the ball pushing everyone on your way is not Soccer. It is football (the other football lol).


I beg to differ on the speed comment. Some just have it. I hope your DD is not one of the slow ones and in your head your can go to Healthy Baller to train to be the fastest on the team. Give yourself a break and save your money. Will she improve maybe but will never be some of the fastest kids on the team.

The USWNT have issues with politics that is why they are falling behind. They have young talent that are technical and fast but are not called up since the selection is not merit based. They keep calling and playing the same old players that are passed their prime. In European, selection is mostly based on merit with a few exceptions.

Pep already knows talent wins games that is why Man City has spend a lot of money buying these players. They are stacked with studs. Even if Pep were to coach Union 2011G, Arlington will still win... not enough talent on the team. You would not even want that as the first day he comes 3/4th of the team will be let go. As good as he is, he knows he is not a miracle worker and needs talent to win.



Speed is not a skill. Size is not a skill. Strength is not a skill.
Kids can train out imperfections in running form and max their natural ability. But you simply can’t train speed as a skill for improvement.

Pep’s team is littered with speed and size. His “coaching” is based on identifying and paying transfer fees for fully developed adults and implementing them into a system. Haaland is size and speed and not so much skill.

USWNT is really a politics game and they keep players too long. Emma Hayes is quite a character herself.


Somebody must have a slow kid..speed is an inherent genetic attribute. Its not a skill.. everyone has a top speed and training can get you to your max.. but others max is always going to be higher. I will always pick the athletes over a slow and/or small but technical skilled player. Need to get to the ball and not get pushed off else it doesnt matter.