Anonymous
08/21/2025 20:45
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.
It sounds like Einstein would not have regional IB or performing arts, but could still have local IB and performing arts. But isn't that basically what they have already? Or are their IB and performing arts programs application/audition-based?
Yes, that is what they have already, just that now students across the DCC can go there for those programs, and that wouldn't be happening in the new model.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 20:40
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.
It sounds like Einstein would not have regional IB or performing arts, but could still have local IB and performing arts. But isn't that basically what they have already? Or are their IB and performing arts programs application/audition-based?
Anonymous
08/21/2025 18:36
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.
The same watered down academics will exist in Woodward.
At least you have a new school building, west-county parents. Count some blessings with this.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 14:08
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.
Again, this doesn't mean Einstein is losing IB. It means Einstein won't have a regional IB program. It can either keep IB or have comparable AP classes for the local students.
Given the direction of Einstein's IB program, facilitated in its decline by the school's administration, it either will continue its devolution as the more academically inclined go to the new regional IB at BCC or it will go away entirely as resources focus on now-to-be-regional programs VAC (currently county-wide), Education (currently ??? -- there is special education at Einstein, but that is for students with special ed need, so one might question the claim of an extant Education program, presumably teaching-oriented, on the asset map; alternately, they may be defining "Education," from a magnet perspective, as Special Education in the first place, which introduces a whole other set of considerations) & Design (to be developed).
Divorcing VAC and Performing Arts (currently DCC-available VAPA), with the latter to be a regional magnet at Northwood, could be a mistake, diminishing the possibility of a cohesive and reputation-enhancing set of magnet foci for the school.
VAC and VAPA have always been separate, so there's no divorcing needed. The Education program is probably the Teacher Academy of Maryland, which Einstein already has.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 13:41
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Well if they do these regional programs, which will lead to increased expenses for busing, hopefully BOE will reject any version of Option 3 (busing for demographics). They’ll get it this way instead. MCPS really can’t afford busing for demographics AND busing for regional programs.
Have they done the busing impact study yet? I thought BOE asked for that.
Honestly, I haven’t gotten over the fact that they haven’t finished background checks and teachers didn’t get paid on time this summer. These are VERY BIG RED FLAGS.
It’s nice that they want to do all these things, but we can’t even seem to get the basics right.
I believe that Howard County ended up laying off teachers not long after all their redistricting. (Recall reading that somewhere but not sure where. Maybe letter to the editor from prior HoCo BOE president with lessons learned.)
Have they done the busing impact study yet? I thought BOE asked for that.
Honestly, I haven’t gotten over the fact that they haven’t finished background checks and teachers didn’t get paid on time this summer. These are VERY BIG RED FLAGS.
It’s nice that they want to do all these things, but we can’t even seem to get the basics right.
I believe that Howard County ended up laying off teachers not long after all their redistricting. (Recall reading that somewhere but not sure where. Maybe letter to the editor from prior HoCo BOE president with lessons learned.)
Anonymous
08/21/2025 13:01
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
It seems none of the BOE members live around Woodward region.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 12:58
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.
Again, this doesn't mean Einstein is losing IB. It means Einstein won't have a regional IB program. It can either keep IB or have comparable AP classes for the local students.
Given the direction of Einstein's IB program, facilitated in its decline by the school's administration, it either will continue its devolution as the more academically inclined go to the new regional IB at BCC or it will go away entirely as resources focus on now-to-be-regional programs VAC (currently county-wide), Education (currently ??? -- there is special education at Einstein, but that is for students with special ed need, so one might question the claim of an extant Education program, presumably teaching-oriented, on the asset map; alternately, they may be defining "Education," from a magnet perspective, as Special Education in the first place, which introduces a whole other set of considerations) & Design (to be developed).
Divorcing VAC and Performing Arts (currently DCC-available VAPA), with the latter to be a regional magnet at Northwood, could be a mistake, diminishing the possibility of a cohesive and reputation-enhancing set of magnet foci for the school.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 12:49
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In region 3,
WJ will be the best school.
Wheaton will follow.
Einstein and Woodward will be the last at similar level.
Einstein isn't in region 3, it's in region 1.
My bad, I wrongly thought that it was in the region 3. 4th school in region 3 will be Kennedy.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 12:46
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.
The same watered down academics will exist in Woodward.
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Einstein is pretty low. I thought enough motivated kids are present in Einstein. I am surprised to see it with Watkins Mill.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 12:42
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:In region 3,
WJ will be the best school.
Wheaton will follow.
Einstein and Woodward will be the last at similar level.
Einstein isn't in region 3, it's in region 1.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 12:39
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
In region 3,
WJ will be the best school.
Wheaton will follow.
Einstein and Woodward will be the last at similar level.
WJ will be the best school.
Wheaton will follow.
Einstein and Woodward will be the last at similar level.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 12:36
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.
The same watered down academics will exist in Woodward.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 12:35
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
It’s not very high farms and smart kids come from lower income families.
40-50% becomes high. Yes, you can say that it;s not high FARMS comapred to 80%, but right now Tilkden region was with WJ. It's high FARMS compared to current situation.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 12:04
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.
Again, this doesn't mean Einstein is losing IB. It means Einstein won't have a regional IB program. It can either keep IB or have comparable AP classes for the local students.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 11:05
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Crown gets a good start with STEM. It will ensure that scholl will have enough stem oriented kids to have ability to offer higher level science and match.
Situation looks very bad for Woodward. Woodward gets a poor start with not a single Stem/Math/science focus.
With very high FARMS in Woodward and adding visual arts, performing arts, communications etc, this school will not have enough STEM oriented kids to offer higher level courses.
A win for Crown and loss of Woodward. With high FARMS rate and focusing on drama and drawing, school becomes drasticalyl less attractive for any kids intereted in STEM.
How do you know this? Is it part of the Regional magnet materials?
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKQNLM604AC0/$file/Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT.pdf
Region 3:
Woorward - Visual arts, Performing arts, Design & Communications
Region 5:
Crown - Science, Math and Computer science
Crown will be an awesome place for STEM oriented kids. Woodward will be just opposite.
Looking at it, I agree with the above observation. Looks like Wooward will be the second Einstein in the area. I think Einstein will be losing IB and no IB in Woodward. Both are high level of FARMS comapred to lets say WJ. Both will be having art programs without any STEM focus. Likely to end up as two simialr schools. Right now, Einstein used to egt some movitaed kids due to IB, now it will be gone as well.
Crown got a far better end of bargain here and it will help the school to start strong.
If Einstein is losing the performing arts there is no reason to go given they have watered down academics. They just ruined Einstein. Losing the IB is fine as only a few graduate with degrees.