Anonymous wrote:What if Dearie says if they can/will not provide evidence of what they are claiming then he has no choice but to rule in favor of DOJ.

Yep. They can try and have the docs excluded at trial but they’ve pretty much already hung themselves because they have shown he had specific knowledge about the documents they found and continued to attempt to retain possession of them! It’s bananas.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Panda Man is going to be a star.

But could Trump then say Panda Man is lying, and then it becomes a he said, he said?

If Trump decides to testify he’s even dumber than I thought he was.

Trump is so impressed with himself and his ability to lie his way out of everything in his life that I can see him deciding to testify.

Con men believe only in themselves and their ability to con. Obviously, all his lawyers and Melania and Ivanka would beg him not to testify and in the end he would change his mind. But, it's such a delicious fantasy.

Trump knows all-too-well he can’t lie under oath. He asserted his right against self-incrimination in the NYAG civil case over 400 times. There’s zero chance he testifies and opens himself up to cross-examination and impeachment. He understands that he’s an inveterate liar and can’t keep to a linear narrative.

What if Dearie says if they can/will not provide evidence of what they are claiming then he has no choice but to rule in favor of DOJ.

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Anonymous wrote:If they don’t want to have to present their defense, they should stop interfering in a criminal investigation and wait for indictment and trial to bring up their claims. No other person on the planet would get away with these stupid games.

There are procedures for a reason, just because Cannon flouted pretty much every rule doesn’t mean the 11th circuit will or any other experienced attorney. This is such a joke.

No this is now precedent. Look for many to start doing this. The courts will have to accept it.

No hun. It’s not binding precedent anywhere. She is going to get reversed anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:If they don’t want to have to present their defense, they should stop interfering in a criminal investigation and wait for indictment and trial to bring up their claims. No other person on the planet would get away with these stupid games.

There are procedures for a reason, just because Cannon flouted pretty much every rule doesn’t mean the 11th circuit will or any other experienced attorney. This is such a joke.

No this is now precedent. Look for many to start doing this. The courts will have to accept it.

District court rulings are not binding on any other court. This is extremely limited precedent right now; will change if the 11th circuit agrees with any part of it.

Anonymous wrote:If they don’t want to have to present their defense, they should stop interfering in a criminal investigation and wait for indictment and trial to bring up their claims. No other person on the planet would get away with these stupid games.

There are procedures for a reason, just because Cannon flouted pretty much every rule doesn’t mean the 11th circuit will or any other experienced attorney. This is such a joke.

The point is delay, and Cannon bought it hook line and sinker. This move makes her look even more foolish than she did already. Trump's team is also going to refuse to cooperate with other parts of this process because it would mean making factual assertions that can later be used against Trump at trial. Oh, you say those documents are subject to executive privilege? So that means they are government records, right, and that you took them to your personal residence?

Anonymous wrote:If they don’t want to have to present their defense, they should stop interfering in a criminal investigation and wait for indictment and trial to bring up their claims. No other person on the planet would get away with these stupid games.

There are procedures for a reason, just because Cannon flouted pretty much every rule doesn’t mean the 11th circuit will or any other experienced attorney. This is such a joke.

No this is now precedent. Look for many to start doing this. The courts will have to accept it.

Anonymous wrote:So, it’s pretty simple. Those are classified records because *the government* says they are. Until he’s at trial he can whine about it but has zero legal recourse to stop this investigation.

So just prepare for loads more whining. And obstruction.

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So, it’s pretty simple. Those classified records because says they are. Until he’s at trial he can whine about it but has zero legal recourse to stop this investigation.

So just prepare for loads more whining. And obstruction.

If they don’t want to have to present their defense, they should stop interfering in a criminal investigation and wait for indictment and trial to bring up their claims. No other person on the planet would get away with these stupid games.

There are procedures for a reason, just because Cannon flouted pretty much every rule doesn’t mean the 11th circuit will or any other experienced attorney. This is such a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge Dearie is not effing around.

Why?

Probably because he's moving fast and Trump's legal team is spinning:

Seriously? They wanted the SM to review classification, but now won't say whether Trump declassified the docs? This is insane.

Trump's lawyers asked for a SM and recommended Dearie so how can they refuse him? Is a SM like mediation?

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Panda Man is going to be a star.

But could Trump then say Panda Man is lying, and then it becomes a he said, he said?

If Trump decides to testify he’s even dumber than I thought he was.

Trump is so impressed with himself and his ability to lie his way out of everything in his life that I can see him deciding to testify.

Con men believe only in themselves and their ability to con. Obviously, all his lawyers and Melania and Ivanka would beg him not to testify and in the end he would change his mind. But, it's such a delicious fantasy.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge Dearie is not effing around.

Why?

Probably because he's moving fast and Trump's legal team is spinning:

that Gollum tweet is hilarious!!!!

Agree! It almost makes me want to join twitter again. Almost.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone fill me in on the Panda Man reference?

Here you go -
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/06/what-is-eric-herschmanns-panda-painting-in-jan-6-hearing.html

Can someone fill me in on the Panda Man reference?