Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
Why don’t you just leave people alone. All the clubs around here are the same anyways.
Only Valor has 253 pages of complaints tho. Its like getting food at a restaurant that was just shut down by the health department.
It’s the same people just posting and replying over and over.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
lol, most of the stuff on this thread is fake. Any negative stuff that is true is applicable at every other club.
253 pages over an entire year with multiple details about multiple teams across all the age groups and its all fake?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
Why don’t you just leave people alone. All the clubs around here are the same anyways.
Only Valor has 253 pages of complaints tho. Its like getting food at a restaurant that was just shut down by the health department.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It sucks for the players in an age grouo when the top team coach is the same for 3, 4 years. They deserve a coach with a fresh outlook. The top coaches get set views on kids and won't move up 2nd team kids over taking outsiders. The top team coach will have favorites.
According to a parent- 2014 girls top team is made up of only a handful of previous year top team players. The other half are made up of previous year second and third team, one from other Loudoun, and one who never played soccer before but is now the main striker.
If true this should dispel the myth that players never move up. But this begs the question of whether the team is so bad that a kid who never played soccer before is their main striker and half were players moved up from second and third team
Is this the team composition right now, or for next year? If for next year then it sounds like some are leaving.
If it’s for this year, you can look up their record. I don’t think they are that bad… middle of the pack maybe? I mean I guess if think your DD is good enough for one of the top ranked teams go ahead and move there. Everyone should find the team that is the right fit for them.
I don’t work for Valor, nor do I have any reason to stick up for them. Just seems a little over the top to say that team is “so bad” when objectively that doesn’t seem to be the case at least this year. It is all relative and depends on your kid’s ability and goals.
Rumor spreader was talking about 24-25 season. But was off in his/her details.
Yup. Some facts right, others not.
The Valor 24-25 14G top team has 12 players. 5 were on the top team for all of 23-24. 1 moved up from third team to top team during last season. 2 moved up from second team, 1 moved up from third team (and is probably who PP was thinking of when they said “star striker”). 3 came from outside valor - 2 from other clubs, 1 who had played rec.
Besides the 5/6 from last years top team on this years top team, 2 from last years top team moved down to this years second team, and 3 left valor for other clubs (SYC top team, LS top team, LS second team).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait what, "drive 100s of miles so the first team can play the second team two weeks in a row?" did that really happen?
Yes but not two weeks in a row. In October 2023 the Valor 2014G first and second teams were in the same division for a tournament in Williamsburg and played each other in the final. A month later they were in the same division for a tournament in Richmond and played each other in a semi-final.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for the boys side, but the lowest teams on the girls side are usually painfully weak. Rec level or worse b/c rec teams usually have at least a few talented athletes. So Valor gives them terrible coaches. If they get someone halfway decent, its a Valor miracle.
Maybe it's the players and not the coaches. Chicken salad made from chicken crap is still made of crap.
Yeah, but I'm talking really basic coaching expectations, like showing up on time, or showing up at all, not being crazy, etc.
Valor should seriously look at cutting the 3rd team program all together. Bad coaches, bad players... nothing more than a fundraiser
Their 3rd-5th teams are their moneymakers. They play in cheaper leagues, cheaper and fewer tournaments, have cheaper inexperienced coaches, but everyone pays the same fees. Basically their worse teams subsidize their first teams.
Insane how these entitled parents are okay with their kids being nothing more than monetary support for kids with actual talent.
if a kid wants to start playing soccer but more competitive than rec leagues. They get placed in 3rd or lower team. The parent agrees. This makes the parents "entitled" for agreeing to pay and give their child a starting point?
Entitled in general, not specifically in the soccer realm. This is NOVA, remember? Everyone's kid is better and deserves more than everyone else's.
Just funny how many people complain about the quality of coaches on 3-5 teams, when they players are terrible as well. As we both know, it's nothing more than a fundraiser for the kids with actual talent. Just hard to believe NOVA parents are okay with that, but then again, they all believe their kid is going to go from 5 to 1 and play for the USNT one day.
There is plenty to complain about regarding the coaches of certain first and second teams as well. No one wants to out themselves, so they aren't going to necessarily identify team/age group/coach.
Anyone who feels 3rd or lower teams should not exist are the ones who feel “entitled” that only higher level teams should exist. Some kids just want to play travel soccer even if they aren’t that good. Why are you so sold on this? You think denying kids a starting point or an opportunity to play , even at the lower levels, is how things should be? If so, you are the one with entitlement issues.
Ahhh the "everyone should be able to participate" mindset. How 2025 liberal of you!
If anything, you're arguing that lesser talented kids should be entitled to a team to play on...
I think we should teach kids to find something they're actually good at and be honest with them that some things just aren't for them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
Dc has few classmates and few neighbors in Valor. All seem happy there. can see some are unhappy. don't understand why you are at valor if you are so unhappy with it. thank you to those who answered without unnecessary propaganda. im out of this site.
Anonymous wrote:Wait what, "drive 100s of miles so the first team can play the second team two weeks in a row?" did that really happen?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
lol, most of the stuff on this thread is fake. Any negative stuff that is true is applicable at every other club.
253 pages over an entire year with multiple details about multiple teams across all the age groups and its all fake?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
lol, most of the stuff on this thread is fake. Any negative stuff that is true is applicable at every other club.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?
Why don’t you just leave people alone. All the clubs around here are the same anyways.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If my kid went to one tryout day and still haven’t gotten an offer yet (but still waiting for second tryout) does that mean not 1st team? I heard them say top team will likely get offers within a “couple of days”? Or do some 1st team kids get offers after completing two trials?
Is your kid already at Valor? On the first team? If so, and you haven’t gotten an offer yet, your kid is most likely on the bubble between first and second. They either want to see if others accept the first team offer or see how your kid does at tryout 2 before sending an offer. Valor will send out offers after one tryout if they are sure of your kid’s team placement.
If you’re from outside Valor, they may just need that second tryout in order to decide on your kid. Unless they’re a real standout it’s hard to get a first team offer after one day when they don’t know you.
Coming from out of town new to area. Was in 1st team in NJ but took a year off (long story don't want to get into it). I know 1st team is a long shot but dc looked pretty good out there on 1st day. I guess we would accept a 2nd team offer too.
Why not go to a more reputable club with fewer complaints?