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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

I'm not allowed to have a gun in my EU country. But if I wanted to make poor food choices, I could buy junk food cheaply at the grocery: chips, chocolate, candy, soda, sugary drinks, it is all here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

I truly do not understand this. You can order just a coffee in Starbucks, and it will contain only coffee. Or you can order a sugary coffee drink with many calories.

In France, you can order just a coffee, and as you noted, you won't have to "google nutrition menu" because it will contain only coffee. But you can also--and a lot of people do--order a coffee drink in France, with varying amounts of cream/sugar, etc.

I understand you were only in France for a limited time and were a tourist, so you'll have to take my word for this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

You really are bad at evaluating a conversation and understanding what it is that people are saying, apparently.

+1. PP is just fundamentally misunderstanding almost everything that is being discussed here, and who is arguing for what. It’s embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:[
Ha please. I’ve lived all over the world, too. It’s not like I can eat shawarma and drink carlsbergs all day in Copenhagen and stay magically thin.

Who said about eating all day long?
One drink in Starbucks here has 50 grams of sugar, one meal at a restaurant averages 1000 calories.

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Both those things are true in my Western European country and all of the bordering Western European countries.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know what OP has for dinner at her 'upscale hotel' tonight.

Yeah, I’m at a hotel with $300-$400 rate and multiple restaurants. The food here is mostly crap (I finally did find a decent Italian restaurant last night). They don have nutrition facts so I have no idea what I’m eating.

So if I can’t find healthy food in this setting what hope so you have for low income people?

I guess I should drive to farmer’s market and cook something up in my room.

There’s really not a single salad on the menu? Or grilled meat with steamed vegetables? Usually the options are there, but they don’t taste as good so people don’t order them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

You really are bad at evaluating a conversation and understanding what it is that people are saying, apparently.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

Why is your child drinking coffee?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

Sounds like your kid wanted a Frappuccino, which is basically a milkshake. You can easily order plain coffee or an americano in Starbucks with no sweetener. Did you really not know that sugary drinks have a lot of sugar?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

You can order just a coffee at Starbucks.

When I lived in Spain there were pastries everywhere. White bread with thick ham inside a common lunch. Candy shops next to every farmacía. Lots of wine.

America isn’t the only country. It’s about the choices you make where you are.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

Look, OP, you are obviously right, but you will never convince the "git yer hands off my guns and my junk food" crowd here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

That’s what I do here. Order coffee and not have to do research. Ordering a liquid dessert is something else entirely.

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Yeah, you don’t. But when DC wanted a drink I had to get my phone out and Google nutrition menu for Starbucks and find their menu then look at it and realise it has 50 grams of sugar. My kid thought they were just buying a coffee drink. See how it’s deceiving?

In France I could order a coffee and not have to do research.

Anonymous wrote:I want to know what OP has for dinner at her 'upscale hotel' tonight.

Yeah, I’m at a hotel with $300-$400 rate and multiple restaurants. The food here is mostly crap (I finally did find a decent Italian restaurant last night). They don have nutrition facts so I have no idea what I’m eating.

So if I can’t find healthy food in this setting what hope so you have for low income people?

I guess I should drive to farmer’s market and cook something up in my room.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[
Ha please. I’ve lived all over the world, too. It’s not like I can eat shawarma and drink carlsbergs all day in Copenhagen and stay magically thin.

Who said about eating all day long?
One drink in Starbucks here has 50 grams of sugar, one meal at a restaurant averages 1000 calories.

You don’t have to order those items. I don’t. It’s not even hard.

Anonymous wrote:[
Ha please. I’ve lived all over the world, too. It’s not like I can eat shawarma and drink carlsbergs all day in Copenhagen and stay magically thin.

Who said about eating all day long?
One drink in Starbucks here has 50 grams of sugar, one meal at a restaurant averages 1000 calories.