Anonymous
06/04/2021 13:21
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded
Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.
So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.
The parents were in the wrong.
This is an insane point of view. Bikes and scooters on the sidewalks have to yield to pedestrians. It's actually the law in DC, and it's also basic common sense. https://ddot.dc.gov/page/ddot-bicycle-and-pedestrian-safety
Agreed, and it’s also important to understand the nature of the neighborhood. This is an area where row houses sit close to the sidewalks and families often play and socialize on their stoops and in the sidewalk. To say the family is “in the wrong” for using the sidewalk in front of their house the way many people in that neighborhood use it, and the way people in dense urban neighborhoods have ALWAYS used the sidewalk, is bizarre. Scooters have been around a few years. Kids in that neighborhood and many others have been sitting in sidewalks playing with chalk or whatever for decades.
Obviously the guy on the scooter was in the wrong, even before he decided to SHOOT A PARENT AND CHILD. Come on.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 13:14
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded
Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.
So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.
The parents were in the wrong.
This is an insane point of view. Bikes and scooters on the sidewalks have to yield to pedestrians. It's actually the law in DC, and it's also basic common sense. https://ddot.dc.gov/page/ddot-bicycle-and-pedestrian-safety
Anonymous
06/04/2021 13:11
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded
Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.
So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.
The parents were in the wrong.
NOPE. A sidewalk is not a thoroughfare for anything that comes along. A pedestrian would not endanger children playing with chalk on a sidewalk. A bike would, a scooter would but if a stroller came by, I would tell the children to move over. A jogger would run around them. The issue is speed. The scooters are too fast for sidewalk use and people ride them like the scooter is uncontrollable.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 12:50
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded
Pedestrians in the key word. Walking or moving along on the sidewalk. The parents had the kid playing on the sitting walk in front of their house - most likely sitting sedentary with chalk or some other implement.
So not only did the scooter driver have the right to drive on the sidewalk, they had the right to not be blocked by someone. Its the same principle as street vendors not being allowed to set up tables blocking public access to a thoroughfare.
The parents were in the wrong.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 12:44
Subject: Re:Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
How is the family doing? Is everyone out of the hospital?
Anonymous
06/04/2021 12:43
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How does anyone pick up and throw a Lime scooter?
I’m thinking that if someone almost mows down your toddler you acquire super human strength via anger. Similar to the Incredible Hulk.
It’s gotta be a swinging motion, like the discus. I wonder if he did a full 360.
Some of you are clearly posting from the burbs of Ohio. A scooter is not a moped.
I live in the suburbs and drive into the city for work and park on the street. I have a dent in my driver side door that speaks to those scooters causing damage when not hurled but presumably just tipped over. The guy’s family didn’t deserve to be shot, especially not the innocent kid, that poor kid has at least one parent who is a hot headed moron.
Did your kid get run over, given different timing your kid might have been run over doesn’t count. Look I wanted to hurl my son’s dump truck at the guy in the pick up truck who didn’t yield when we were in the cross walk, but you know I’m with my kid and what if i hit the truck and the guys got out of his truck and and attacked me and my kid, or backed up his truck and ran us both over.
I didn’t do that because my instinct was to protect my son. I yelled and grabbed my son, and cursed his tail lights. Because you know someone who is willing to almost run a cute toddler and his mom over isn’t a nice guy... and might have serious anger issues, so I let it go. The guy who shot the kid is going to jail. The man who threw the scooter needs to lose his wife and kid.
Wow, you’re so wise and quick thinking. You are a true hero and inspiration to us all. Thank you for sharing your story.
No just not a prominent browed, thick jawed Neanderthal who bangs chest and crows big saggy muscles make me big scary guy! Now go drink your bullet coffee and Bless you and have good day ya poor little thing.
PCP is a hell of a drug my guy.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 11:55
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded
+1. They are super annoying and dangerous on sidewalks. They go way faster than pedestrians. If you happen to step to the side at all when you’re walking, you could easily get run over.
+1 I can't believe anyone seriously thinks they belong on a sidewalk with pedestrians.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 09:15
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How does anyone pick up and throw a Lime scooter?
I’m thinking that if someone almost mows down your toddler you acquire super human strength via anger. Similar to the Incredible Hulk.
It’s gotta be a swinging motion, like the discus. I wonder if he did a full 360.
Some of you are clearly posting from the burbs of Ohio. A scooter is not a moped.
I live in the suburbs and drive into the city for work and park on the street. I have a dent in my driver side door that speaks to those scooters causing damage when not hurled but presumably just tipped over. The guy’s family didn’t deserve to be shot, especially not the innocent kid, that poor kid has at least one parent who is a hot headed moron.
Did your kid get run over, given different timing your kid might have been run over doesn’t count. Look I wanted to hurl my son’s dump truck at the guy in the pick up truck who didn’t yield when we were in the cross walk, but you know I’m with my kid and what if i hit the truck and the guys got out of his truck and and attacked me and my kid, or backed up his truck and ran us both over.
I didn’t do that because my instinct was to protect my son. I yelled and grabbed my son, and cursed his tail lights. Because you know someone who is willing to almost run a cute toddler and his mom over isn’t a nice guy... and might have serious anger issues, so I let it go. The guy who shot the kid is going to jail. The man who threw the scooter needs to lose his wife and kid.
Wow, you’re so wise and quick thinking. You are a true hero and inspiration to us all. Thank you for sharing your story.
No just not a prominent browed, thick jawed Neanderthal who bangs chest and crows big saggy muscles make me big scary guy! Now go drink your bullet coffee and Bless you and have good day ya poor little thing.
I’d ask you what Bullet coffee is but I don’t really care. The reality is you don’t know anything about me, but I do know something about you. You’re angry. Maybe try some yoga or get some fresh air.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 09:13
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded
+1. They are super annoying and dangerous on sidewalks. They go way faster than pedestrians. If you happen to step to the side at all when you’re walking, you could easily get run over.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 09:10
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the rest of the story?
https:www.fox5dc.com/news/arrest-made-after-mother-child-shot-over-rental-scooter-dispute-in-dc.amp
A witness says Bedney was riding a Lime DC scooter near the victims' house when one of the victims shouted to Bedney, "Hey, my kids are playing out here."
Bedney and the witness got into a verbal altercation wherein the witness picked up and threw the scooter towards Bedney's feet. The witness says that's when Bedney put a ski mask over his face and pulled out a semi-automatic handgun from his bag, firing multiple shots towards the victims.
Wow! So was that the defending his wife? Or did she throw the scooter? Like road rage without a car. Dumb to incite because you never know and people really don't like things thrown at them. Said he was riding it near their house. I keeping hearing about mowing down toddlers.
So -
A) they had their kid blocking access on a public sidewalk
B) got so mad at someone using the sidewalk that they assaulted him first
They didn’t deserve to be shot but were entitled and aggressive in both circumstances prior to the shooting.
Reminds me of the CA mom who cut someone off in traffic and flipped them off but was sobbing about her baby not deserving to be shot in the news conference hours later.
This victim blaming is disgusting. Electric scooters are not supposed to to be on the sidewalk either.
I agree that the victim blaming is bad. In this case, self-defense does not work following the assault because he has the opportunity to flee and the response was disproportionate to the threat. However, a proportionate response could have been to punch the husband square in the jaw. Unfortunately, too many people in this city are prone to resort to gun violence instead of using their head.
Also, are there rules against electric scooters on sidewalks? I am not sure that there are.
There aren’t. The PP is just talking out of their butt. In fact, scooters are supposed to be on sidewalks, especially in one-way traffic areas like where this happened in order to not interfere with road traffic.
Scooters and bikes are allowed on sidewalks, except in the Central Business District, and scooter users still ride them in restricted areas. The legislation urges users to travel in protected bike lanes when available.
So the scooter rider had the right of way on a public sidewalk and the parent who threw the scooter at them was in the wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/dc-council-to-take-final-vote-on-new-e-scooter-regulations/2020/10/19/660f5cce-121f-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.html
Lol. Just because scooters are allowed on the sidewalk doesn’t mean they always have the right of way. Good try though.
What is “right of way” on a sidewalk?
Maybe the PP who is sure the scooter had right of way can fill us in on that.
The only person that has mentioned “right of way” seems to be you? PPs have noted that scooters are in fact allowed on sidewalks. Not sure how you have a hard time understanding this?
You seem confused. The PP who wrote “so the scooter rider had the right way” was not me.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 09:01
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
I don’t care if the are technically allowed in sidewalks, the riders should yield to pedestrians. Instead many/most of them act like the scooters have a mind of their own and that they have no control over them. People ride them too fast in places that are crowded
Anonymous
06/04/2021 08:30
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the rest of the story?
https:www.fox5dc.com/news/arrest-made-after-mother-child-shot-over-rental-scooter-dispute-in-dc.amp
A witness says Bedney was riding a Lime DC scooter near the victims' house when one of the victims shouted to Bedney, "Hey, my kids are playing out here."
Bedney and the witness got into a verbal altercation wherein the witness picked up and threw the scooter towards Bedney's feet. The witness says that's when Bedney put a ski mask over his face and pulled out a semi-automatic handgun from his bag, firing multiple shots towards the victims.
Wow! So was that the defending his wife? Or did she throw the scooter? Like road rage without a car. Dumb to incite because you never know and people really don't like things thrown at them. Said he was riding it near their house. I keeping hearing about mowing down toddlers.
So -
A) they had their kid blocking access on a public sidewalk
B) got so mad at someone using the sidewalk that they assaulted him first
They didn’t deserve to be shot but were entitled and aggressive in both circumstances prior to the shooting.
Reminds me of the CA mom who cut someone off in traffic and flipped them off but was sobbing about her baby not deserving to be shot in the news conference hours later.
This victim blaming is disgusting. Electric scooters are not supposed to to be on the sidewalk either.
I agree that the victim blaming is bad. In this case, self-defense does not work following the assault because he has the opportunity to flee and the response was disproportionate to the threat. However, a proportionate response could have been to punch the husband square in the jaw. Unfortunately, too many people in this city are prone to resort to gun violence instead of using their head.
Also, are there rules against electric scooters on sidewalks? I am not sure that there are.
There aren’t. The PP is just talking out of their butt. In fact, scooters are supposed to be on sidewalks, especially in one-way traffic areas like where this happened in order to not interfere with road traffic.
Scooters and bikes are allowed on sidewalks, except in the Central Business District, and scooter users still ride them in restricted areas. The legislation urges users to travel in protected bike lanes when available.
So the scooter rider had the right of way on a public sidewalk and the parent who threw the scooter at them was in the wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/dc-council-to-take-final-vote-on-new-e-scooter-regulations/2020/10/19/660f5cce-121f-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.html
Lol. Just because scooters are allowed on the sidewalk doesn’t mean they always have the right of way. Good try though.
What is “right of way” on a sidewalk?
Maybe the PP who is sure the scooter had right of way can fill us in on that.
The only person that has mentioned “right of way” seems to be you? PPs have noted that scooters are in fact allowed on sidewalks. Not sure how you have a hard time understanding this?
Anonymous
06/04/2021 08:06
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How does anyone pick up and throw a Lime scooter?
I’m thinking that if someone almost mows down your toddler you acquire super human strength via anger. Similar to the Incredible Hulk.
It’s gotta be a swinging motion, like the discus. I wonder if he did a full 360.
Some of you are clearly posting from the burbs of Ohio. A scooter is not a moped.
I live in the suburbs and drive into the city for work and park on the street. I have a dent in my driver side door that speaks to those scooters causing damage when not hurled but presumably just tipped over. The guy’s family didn’t deserve to be shot, especially not the innocent kid, that poor kid has at least one parent who is a hot headed moron.
Did your kid get run over, given different timing your kid might have been run over doesn’t count. Look I wanted to hurl my son’s dump truck at the guy in the pick up truck who didn’t yield when we were in the cross walk, but you know I’m with my kid and what if i hit the truck and the guys got out of his truck and and attacked me and my kid, or backed up his truck and ran us both over.
I didn’t do that because my instinct was to protect my son. I yelled and grabbed my son, and cursed his tail lights. Because you know someone who is willing to almost run a cute toddler and his mom over isn’t a nice guy... and might have serious anger issues, so I let it go. The guy who shot the kid is going to jail. The man who threw the scooter needs to lose his wife and kid.
Wow, you’re so wise and quick thinking. You are a true hero and inspiration to us all. Thank you for sharing your story.
No just not a prominent browed, thick jawed Neanderthal who bangs chest and crows big saggy muscles make me big scary guy! Now go drink your bullet coffee and Bless you and have good day ya poor little thing.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 07:57
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How does anyone pick up and throw a Lime scooter?
I’m thinking that if someone almost mows down your toddler you acquire super human strength via anger. Similar to the Incredible Hulk.
It’s gotta be a swinging motion, like the discus. I wonder if he did a full 360.
Some of you are clearly posting from the burbs of Ohio. A scooter is not a moped.
I live in the suburbs and drive into the city for work and park on the street. I have a dent in my driver side door that speaks to those scooters causing damage when not hurled but presumably just tipped over. The guy’s family didn’t deserve to be shot, especially not the innocent kid, that poor kid has at least one parent who is a hot headed moron.
Did your kid get run over, given different timing your kid might have been run over doesn’t count. Look I wanted to hurl my son’s dump truck at the guy in the pick up truck who didn’t yield when we were in the cross walk, but you know I’m with my kid and what if i hit the truck and the guys got out of his truck and and attacked me and my kid, or backed up his truck and ran us both over.
I didn’t do that because my instinct was to protect my son. I yelled and grabbed my son, and cursed his tail lights. Because you know someone who is willing to almost run a cute toddler and his mom over isn’t a nice guy... and might have serious anger issues, so I let it go. The guy who shot the kid is going to jail. The man who threw the scooter needs to lose his wife and kid.
Wow, you’re so wise and quick thinking. You are a true hero and inspiration to us all. Thank you for sharing your story.
Anonymous
06/04/2021 07:31
Subject: Mother and Child Shot at P and 10th NW
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the rest of the story?
https:www.fox5dc.com/news/arrest-made-after-mother-child-shot-over-rental-scooter-dispute-in-dc.amp
A witness says Bedney was riding a Lime DC scooter near the victims' house when one of the victims shouted to Bedney, "Hey, my kids are playing out here."
Bedney and the witness got into a verbal altercation wherein the witness picked up and threw the scooter towards Bedney's feet. The witness says that's when Bedney put a ski mask over his face and pulled out a semi-automatic handgun from his bag, firing multiple shots towards the victims.
Wow! So was that the defending his wife? Or did she throw the scooter? Like road rage without a car. Dumb to incite because you never know and people really don't like things thrown at them. Said he was riding it near their house. I keeping hearing about mowing down toddlers.
So -
A) they had their kid blocking access on a public sidewalk
B) got so mad at someone using the sidewalk that they assaulted him first
They didn’t deserve to be shot but were entitled and aggressive in both circumstances prior to the shooting.
Reminds me of the CA mom who cut someone off in traffic and flipped them off but was sobbing about her baby not deserving to be shot in the news conference hours later.
This victim blaming is disgusting. Electric scooters are not supposed to to be on the sidewalk either.
I agree that the victim blaming is bad. In this case, self-defense does not work following the assault because he has the opportunity to flee and the response was disproportionate to the threat. However, a proportionate response could have been to punch the husband square in the jaw. Unfortunately, too many people in this city are prone to resort to gun violence instead of using their head.
Also, are there rules against electric scooters on sidewalks? I am not sure that there are.
There aren’t. The PP is just talking out of their butt. In fact, scooters are supposed to be on sidewalks, especially in one-way traffic areas like where this happened in order to not interfere with road traffic.
Scooters and bikes are allowed on sidewalks, except in the Central Business District, and scooter users still ride them in restricted areas. The legislation urges users to travel in protected bike lanes when available.
So the scooter rider had the right of way on a public sidewalk and the parent who threw the scooter at them was in the wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/dc-council-to-take-final-vote-on-new-e-scooter-regulations/2020/10/19/660f5cce-121f-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.html
Lol. Just because scooters are allowed on the sidewalk doesn’t mean they always have the right of way. Good try though.
What is “right of way” on a sidewalk?
Maybe the PP who is sure the scooter had right of way can fill us in on that.