Anonymous
06/16/2021 16:23
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
It generally takes more than a year to see the DCUM doomsdayer's and inept panic mongerers get their comeuppance. That makes this thread such a welcome dose of "Told ya so".
~ Gratefully vaccinated mom with three thriving kids whose world is not "over".
~ Gratefully vaccinated mom with three thriving kids whose world is not "over".
Anonymous
06/16/2021 16:08
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
I’m sitting at my community pool, unmasked, at full capacity, with snack bar open… and it’s feeling pretty damn “normal.”
Anonymous
06/16/2021 16:03
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:But assuming everyone has access (accessible location, hours, etc.) to the vaccine now, then nobody is excluded unless they choose to not get the vaccine. And frankly, we're one variant away from schools shutting down again and vaccine resistance. People NEED to get vaccinated and if that takes carrots and sticks, then it's time for carrots and sticks. It doesn't matter if you've gotten sick or not, get the vaccine so we can all move on from this.
Outside of April 2020, school closures were a policy choice that we will look back on with horror.
Why should everyone get vaccinated regardless of whether they were sick with Sars Cov 2? What data supports this? How in the world do you know whether the data will support vaccinating healthy young children?
Anonymous
06/16/2021 15:58
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
LOL LIFE AS THEY KNOW IT. I wonder if this kid is still alive? Lol
Anonymous
06/16/2021 15:55
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
But assuming everyone has access (accessible location, hours, etc.) to the vaccine now, then nobody is excluded unless they choose to not get the vaccine. And frankly, we're one variant away from schools shutting down again and vaccine resistance. People NEED to get vaccinated and if that takes carrots and sticks, then it's time for carrots and sticks. It doesn't matter if you've gotten sick or not, get the vaccine so we can all move on from this.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 15:50
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
There's not much we can do for stupid
Anonymous
06/16/2021 15:10
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Black people have very good reason to distrust the medical establishment. Vaccine passports do mean excluding a larger share of black and brown people.
https://www.naacpldf.org/naacp-publications/ldf-bl...vid-19-vaccine-administration/
Plus, they don’t consider natural immunity which is as durable as vaccine induced immunity.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01557-z
“The good news is that the evidence thus far predicts that infection with SARS-CoV-2 induces long-term immunity in most individuals. This provides a welcome positive note as we wait for further data on memory responses to vaccination.”
NP here. That first article is no longer relevant. Speaking for DC specifically - there have been walk in vaccine appointments at Walmart, schools, and other community locations for a long time now. The gap vaccination rates between black and white DC residents is now under 10% and closing. Vaccination rates are HIGHER for the Latino population than non-Latino population. There have been public outreach campaigns on safety and efficacy to counteract the very reasonable generational trauma many black people have with the medical establishment. Bowser has done many things wrong over the last year, but DC Health is doing a very good job at education and access, so no vaccine passports do not disproportionately exclude black and brown people.
Yes, the gap is less wide than it once was, but still present.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/
“Overall, across these 40 states, the percent of White people who have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose (45%) was roughly 1.4 times higher than the rate for Black people (32%) and 1.2 times higher than the rate for Hispanic people (36%) as of June 14, 2021. White people had a higher vaccination rate compared to Hispanic people in all reporting states, except Virginia, Vermont, Missouri, and Tennessee, and a higher rate than Black people in every reporting state, except Oregon, Alaska, and Idaho. However, the size of these differences varied widely across states. For example, White people were over twice as likely to have received a vaccine as Hispanic people in Colorado and South Dakota and had at least a two times higher vaccination rate than Black people in Florida, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and South Dakota”
Anonymous
06/16/2021 15:01
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
It will go back - a small step at a time. And that is ok. Think of the new things we have learned due to the pandemic! All that bread making and gardening! The buzz cuts and the Toto toilets.
Embrace life and change.
Embrace life and change.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 15:01
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. What's wrong with a vaccine passport? Countries who aren't yet vaccinated/don't have the luxury of having as much vaccine roll out want to ensure we aren't going over and spreading Covid.
2. I hope this means that if someone is sick that they will wear a mask when they leave the house (have a cold? have the flu? and all the other crap that adults feel like they should come into an office building full of people with and cough all over us? hey, you can wear a mask now!)
Other than that, this isn't forever OP. Chill out.
What’s wrong with separate seating for black and brown people? Apparently nothing. What’s wrong with mixing all unvaccinated people together? Apparently nothing.
Yes, masks when sick if people must go out is a good idea. Staying home when symptomatic is best.
Black and brown is not a choice. Getting vaccinated is. My god I can't believe I have to explain how vaccination ignorance DOES NOT equal racism.
Black people have very good reason to distrust the medical establishment. Vaccine passports do mean excluding a larger share of black and brown people.
https://www.naacpldf.org/naacp-publications/ldf-blog/chocolate-city-vanilla-vaccine-racial-disparities-in-washington-dc-covid-19-vaccine-administration/
Plus, they don’t consider natural immunity which is as durable as vaccine induced immunity.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01557-z
“The good news is that the evidence thus far predicts that infection with SARS-CoV-2 induces long-term immunity in most individuals. This provides a welcome positive note as we wait for further data on memory responses to vaccination.”
NP here. That first article is no longer relevant. Speaking for DC specifically - there have been walk in vaccine appointments at Walmart, schools, and other community locations for a long time now. The gap vaccination rates between black and white DC residents is now under 10% and closing. Vaccination rates are HIGHER for the Latino population than non-Latino population. There have been public outreach campaigns on safety and efficacy to counteract the very reasonable generational trauma many black people have with the medical establishment. Bowser has done many things wrong over the last year, but DC Health is doing a very good job at education and access, so no vaccine passports do not disproportionately exclude black and brown people.
They exclude the naturally immune.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 14:59
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. What's wrong with a vaccine passport? Countries who aren't yet vaccinated/don't have the luxury of having as much vaccine roll out want to ensure we aren't going over and spreading Covid.
2. I hope this means that if someone is sick that they will wear a mask when they leave the house (have a cold? have the flu? and all the other crap that adults feel like they should come into an office building full of people with and cough all over us? hey, you can wear a mask now!)
Other than that, this isn't forever OP. Chill out.
What’s wrong with separate seating for black and brown people? Apparently nothing. What’s wrong with mixing all unvaccinated people together? Apparently nothing.
Yes, masks when sick if people must go out is a good idea. Staying home when symptomatic is best.
Black and brown is not a choice. Getting vaccinated is. My god I can't believe I have to explain how vaccination ignorance DOES NOT equal racism.
Black people have very good reason to distrust the medical establishment. Vaccine passports do mean excluding a larger share of black and brown people.
https://www.naacpldf.org/naacp-publications/ldf-blog/chocolate-city-vanilla-vaccine-racial-disparities-in-washington-dc-covid-19-vaccine-administration/
Plus, they don’t consider natural immunity which is as durable as vaccine induced immunity.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01557-z
“The good news is that the evidence thus far predicts that infection with SARS-CoV-2 induces long-term immunity in most individuals. This provides a welcome positive note as we wait for further data on memory responses to vaccination.”
NP here. That first article is no longer relevant. Speaking for DC specifically - there have been walk in vaccine appointments at Walmart, schools, and other community locations for a long time now. The gap vaccination rates between black and white DC residents is now under 10% and closing. Vaccination rates are HIGHER for the Latino population than non-Latino population. There have been public outreach campaigns on safety and efficacy to counteract the very reasonable generational trauma many black people have with the medical establishment. Bowser has done many things wrong over the last year, but DC Health is doing a very good job at education and access, so no vaccine passports do not disproportionately exclude black and brown people.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 14:56
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Wow this thread didn’t age well, lol
Seriously! OP, I hope you got help for your unchecked anxiety.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 14:32
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. What's wrong with a vaccine passport? Countries who aren't yet vaccinated/don't have the luxury of having as much vaccine roll out want to ensure we aren't going over and spreading Covid.
2. I hope this means that if someone is sick that they will wear a mask when they leave the house (have a cold? have the flu? and all the other crap that adults feel like they should come into an office building full of people with and cough all over us? hey, you can wear a mask now!)
Other than that, this isn't forever OP. Chill out.
What’s wrong with separate seating for black and brown people? Apparently nothing. What’s wrong with mixing all unvaccinated people together? Apparently nothing.
Yes, masks when sick if people must go out is a good idea. Staying home when symptomatic is best.
Black and brown is not a choice. Getting vaccinated is. My god I can't believe I have to explain how vaccination ignorance DOES NOT equal racism.
Black people have very good reason to distrust the medical establishment. Vaccine passports do mean excluding a larger share of black and brown people.
https://www.naacpldf.org/naacp-publications/ldf-blog/chocolate-city-vanilla-vaccine-racial-disparities-in-washington-dc-covid-19-vaccine-administration/
Plus, they don’t consider natural immunity which is as durable as vaccine induced immunity.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01557-z
“The good news is that the evidence thus far predicts that infection with SARS-CoV-2 induces long-term immunity in most individuals. This provides a welcome positive note as we wait for further data on memory responses to vaccination.”
Anonymous
06/16/2021 14:28
Subject: How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Wow this thread didn’t age well, lol
Anonymous
06/16/2021 14:21
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. What's wrong with a vaccine passport? Countries who aren't yet vaccinated/don't have the luxury of having as much vaccine roll out want to ensure we aren't going over and spreading Covid.
2. I hope this means that if someone is sick that they will wear a mask when they leave the house (have a cold? have the flu? and all the other crap that adults feel like they should come into an office building full of people with and cough all over us? hey, you can wear a mask now!)
Other than that, this isn't forever OP. Chill out.
What’s wrong with separate seating for black and brown people? Apparently nothing. What’s wrong with mixing all unvaccinated people together? Apparently nothing.
Yes, masks when sick if people must go out is a good idea. Staying home when symptomatic is best.
Black and brown is not a choice. Getting vaccinated is. My god I can't believe I have to explain how vaccination ignorance DOES NOT equal racism.
Don't waste your energy on ignorant trolls.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 14:20
Subject: Re:How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. What's wrong with a vaccine passport? Countries who aren't yet vaccinated/don't have the luxury of having as much vaccine roll out want to ensure we aren't going over and spreading Covid.
2. I hope this means that if someone is sick that they will wear a mask when they leave the house (have a cold? have the flu? and all the other crap that adults feel like they should come into an office building full of people with and cough all over us? hey, you can wear a mask now!)
Other than that, this isn't forever OP. Chill out.
What’s wrong with separate seating for black and brown people? Apparently nothing. What’s wrong with mixing all unvaccinated people together? Apparently nothing.
Yes, masks when sick if people must go out is a good idea. Staying home when symptomatic is best.
Black and brown is not a choice. Getting vaccinated is. My god I can't believe I have to explain how vaccination ignorance DOES NOT equal racism.