Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 10:40     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
To really deal with the original sin of slavery we would probably need a regime where all AAs received reparations - but also all AA would need to pay reparations to pay reparations to the Republic of Liberia, because of the damage the Americo-Liberians did to the indigenous natives.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 10:32     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP, nobody read the article. Are you the black nationalist poster? You know, long winded rambling responses about nonsense that you read in one of your extremist AA studies textbooks.

So, what if you are bi-racial? Do you pay, or get paid?


And what if you're descendant of European immigrants who came AFTER slavery had been abolished?

They're exempt from any payment, correct?


They chose to come to a racist country with policies that harmed black people.

You get the good AND the bad.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 10:28     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:I am willing to pay reparations for anyone who can prove they were a slave.




+1
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 10:20     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
I am willing to pay reparations for anyone who can prove they were a slave.


Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 10:16     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP, nobody read the article. Are you the black nationalist poster? You know, long winded rambling responses about nonsense that you read in one of your extremist AA studies textbooks.

So, what if you are bi-racial? Do you pay, or get paid?


And what if you're descendant of European immigrants who came AFTER slavery had been abolished?

They're exempt from any payment, correct?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 10:10     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you get paid, you are now essentially owned. The Dems have been "paying" the black community for 50 years. And for 50 years, we have had no advancement in this country. It has been their way to keep the black community under their thumb.

I don't want no handouts. If I don't take anything, I can't be told how to think, what to do or who to vote for. I am not owned. I will think for myself and act for myself from now on.


Do you think the wealth gap is an issue? Is it something that the US government should help fix in some way?


I believe there are some clear steps that the government can do, the top three that comes to my mind:

1. Make drugs legal, heavily regulate it, end the war on drugs in its previous form. State and local governments can do this on their own quite effectively: just look at marijuana. This would turn the tide of incarceration of young black men, and reduce one of the key causes of gang violence.

2. Further clamp down on illegal immigration, and make legal immigration merit based. Doing so will tighten the labormarket, especially for lower to middle wage level jobs. The influx of immigrants both legal and illegal is the main cause for the stagnation of wages even as GDP/capita has continued to rise. A tighter labor market will give blacks more opportunities to join the work force.

3. Create a free option for colleges: such as making all community colleges free - no questions asked. Heavily subsidize state universities based on need, but state university spending must be capped. No more fancy stadiums, gyms, theaters - they can have those things, just not extravagant ones, and etc. Students are there to learn, not to take a 4 year luxury vacation. University of Minnesota, for example, spent $60 million dollars to expand and remodel a gym.


Those all make sense.

Would you want to forgive sentences for people already convicted of drug crimes?

What about PK-12 schooling?

Anything to address segregation of neighborhoods and schools?


Decriminalizing drugs might make sense, but you can't stop white flight.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 10:09     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you get paid, you are now essentially owned. The Dems have been "paying" the black community for 50 years. And for 50 years, we have had no advancement in this country. It has been their way to keep the black community under their thumb.

I don't want no handouts. If I don't take anything, I can't be told how to think, what to do or who to vote for. I am not owned. I will think for myself and act for myself from now on.


Do you think the wealth gap is an issue? Is it something that the US government should help fix in some way?


I believe there are some clear steps that the government can do, the top three that comes to my mind:

1. Make drugs legal, heavily regulate it, end the war on drugs in its previous form. State and local governments can do this on their own quite effectively: just look at marijuana. This would turn the tide of incarceration of young black men, and reduce one of the key causes of gang violence.

2. Further clamp down on illegal immigration, and make legal immigration merit based. Doing so will tighten the labormarket, especially for lower to middle wage level jobs. The influx of immigrants both legal and illegal is the main cause for the stagnation of wages even as GDP/capita has continued to rise. A tighter labor market will give blacks more opportunities to join the work force.

3. Create a free option for colleges: such as making all community colleges free - no questions asked. Heavily subsidize state universities based on need, but state university spending must be capped. No more fancy stadiums, gyms, theaters - they can have those things, just not extravagant ones, and etc. Students are there to learn, not to take a 4 year luxury vacation. University of Minnesota, for example, spent $60 million dollars to expand and remodel a gym.


Those all make sense.

Would you want to forgive sentences for people already convicted of drug crimes?

What about PK-12 schooling?

Anything to address segregation of neighborhoods and schools?


I was part of a survey that polled households of all races and the conclusion was that for our city, people of all races preferred homogeneous neighborhoods. This was back in the late 80s. Don't assume segregation is forced.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 09:46     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you get paid, you are now essentially owned. The Dems have been "paying" the black community for 50 years. And for 50 years, we have had no advancement in this country. It has been their way to keep the black community under their thumb.

I don't want no handouts. If I don't take anything, I can't be told how to think, what to do or who to vote for. I am not owned. I will think for myself and act for myself from now on.


Do you think the wealth gap is an issue? Is it something that the US government should help fix in some way?


I believe there are some clear steps that the government can do, the top three that comes to my mind:

1. Make drugs legal, heavily regulate it, end the war on drugs in its previous form. State and local governments can do this on their own quite effectively: just look at marijuana. This would turn the tide of incarceration of young black men, and reduce one of the key causes of gang violence.

2. Further clamp down on illegal immigration, and make legal immigration merit based. Doing so will tighten the labormarket, especially for lower to middle wage level jobs. The influx of immigrants both legal and illegal is the main cause for the stagnation of wages even as GDP/capita has continued to rise. A tighter labor market will give blacks more opportunities to join the work force.

3. Create a free option for colleges: such as making all community colleges free - no questions asked. Heavily subsidize state universities based on need, but state university spending must be capped. No more fancy stadiums, gyms, theaters - they can have those things, just not extravagant ones, and etc. Students are there to learn, not to take a 4 year luxury vacation. University of Minnesota, for example, spent $60 million dollars to expand and remodel a gym.


Those all make sense.

Would you want to forgive sentences for people already convicted of drug crimes?

What about PK-12 schooling?

Anything to address segregation of neighborhoods and schools?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 09:43     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
3. Create a free option for colleges: such as making all community colleges free - no questions asked. Heavily subsidize state universities based on need, but state university spending must be capped. No more fancy stadiums, gyms, theaters - they can have those things, just not extravagant ones, and etc. Students are there to learn, not to take a 4 year luxury vacation. University of Minnesota, for example, spent $60 million dollars to expand and remodel a gym.


There should be a couple of caveats: this could encourage people to sign up for classes and not finish, etc. But, in principle, I agree with this
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 09:00     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When you get paid, you are now essentially owned. The Dems have been "paying" the black community for 50 years. And for 50 years, we have had no advancement in this country. It has been their way to keep the black community under their thumb.

I don't want no handouts. If I don't take anything, I can't be told how to think, what to do or who to vote for. I am not owned. I will think for myself and act for myself from now on.


Do you think the wealth gap is an issue? Is it something that the US government should help fix in some way?


I believe there are some clear steps that the government can do, the top three that comes to my mind:

1. Make drugs legal, heavily regulate it, end the war on drugs in its previous form. State and local governments can do this on their own quite effectively: just look at marijuana. This would turn the tide of incarceration of young black men, and reduce one of the key causes of gang violence.

2. Further clamp down on illegal immigration, and make legal immigration merit based. Doing so will tighten the labormarket, especially for lower to middle wage level jobs. The influx of immigrants both legal and illegal is the main cause for the stagnation of wages even as GDP/capita has continued to rise. A tighter labor market will give blacks more opportunities to join the work force.

3. Create a free option for colleges: such as making all community colleges free - no questions asked. Heavily subsidize state universities based on need, but state university spending must be capped. No more fancy stadiums, gyms, theaters - they can have those things, just not extravagant ones, and etc. Students are there to learn, not to take a 4 year luxury vacation. University of Minnesota, for example, spent $60 million dollars to expand and remodel a gym.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 08:42     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Not in favor of direct pay-outs reparations, but would be in favor of more targeted relief. For example student loan forgiveness for all debt-holders would disproportionately help graduates of color; block grants to urban centers and rural communities of color would be reparative; free community college for descendants of slave; funding HBCUs; states suing banks for redlining and refusing to lend to communities of color; small business loans targeted at descendants of slaves.


Clearly this is not enough - as in unacceptable by blacks. Due to the number of blacks who are doing relatively poorly in economic terms, they consume a disproportionate amount of current government aid and welfare spending. I personally do not have a problem with this at all. I gladly pay my taxes, some of which end up being transfer payments to those that need help, or towards social programs for those that can benefit from it. The issue is not whether the current programs are there that blacks can utilize, but that those programs are not racist enough because they do not currently depend on the color of the person's skin. What blacks want, is a racist program that gives out benefits based on the color of their skin.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 08:42     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:When you get paid, you are now essentially owned. The Dems have been "paying" the black community for 50 years. And for 50 years, we have had no advancement in this country. It has been their way to keep the black community under their thumb.

I don't want no handouts. If I don't take anything, I can't be told how to think, what to do or who to vote for. I am not owned. I will think for myself and act for myself from now on.


Do you think the wealth gap is an issue? Is it something that the US government should help fix in some way?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 08:34     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
When you get paid, you are now essentially owned. The Dems have been "paying" the black community for 50 years. And for 50 years, we have had no advancement in this country. It has been their way to keep the black community under their thumb.

I don't want no handouts. If I don't take anything, I can't be told how to think, what to do or who to vote for. I am not owned. I will think for myself and act for myself from now on.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 08:30     Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Not in favor of direct pay-outs reparations, but would be in favor of more targeted relief. For example student loan forgiveness for all debt-holders would disproportionately help graduates of color; block grants to urban centers and rural communities of color would be reparative; free community college for descendants of slave; funding HBCUs; states suing banks for redlining and refusing to lend to communities of color; small business loans targeted at descendants of slaves.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 07:44     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP, nobody read the article. Are you the black nationalist poster? You know, long winded rambling responses about nonsense that you read in one of your extremist AA studies textbooks.

So, what if you are bi-racial? Do you pay, or get paid?


This is why the US has a long path ahead - too many people choosing ignorance. The less you listen, the more it will burn.