I was one of the teachers who went back in today to pack up my room. I don’t know anyone who refused to go in because they were afraid of the virus. The pp really does not represent most teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop paying teachers for work they aren’t doing and maybe their lackadaisical attitude toward reopening will shift.

Covid will be here for years, perhaps forever - even with a vaccine. Teachers (and all of us) will need to live with that. Not reopening schools for years isn’t an option.

Same teachers complaining about going into schools to pick up their belongings likely still going grocery shopping.

Going into a grocery store for 45 min. where everyone is masked, at a time when many people are otherwise staying home, and numbers are limited is quite different. Surely you can understand that? Surely you can understand the apprehension? I am not a teacher, but I’m so sick of the teacher hate on here. They didn’t cause the pandemic. No one was prepared for it.

I am also sick of the teacher hate, but being surprised teachers won't even enter the building isn't hate, it's science. PP described folks signing up in shifts, and wearing PPE. There is no credible disease transmission model for COVID that makes that a risky behaviour.

People aren’t wearing PPE, they are wearing cotton socks on their face.

If someone infected enters the stagnant building and exhales in the hallway through their janky mask before you, it can be suspended for 30 minutes for you to breathe it in.

If they carefully route teachers through separate entrances with 3 hrs between each person, that reduces risk considerably, but doubt they can coordinate that well.

OMGAYFS? (just take a guess at that that means)

Are you going through the back door at your grocery store or at target? Are you climbing through a separate window 3 hours after the customer in front of you? do you plan to wait 3 hours to enter a building until a vaccine comes out?

C'mon people.

Maybe im a little too numb because Im essential and have worked nonstop in a medical facility 6 days a week since this started. But I guarantee nobody in the real world (outside of school fairy tale land) is waiting 3 hours between each person ( or even 3 minutes) to enter a space.

Ha! Nice one, PP.

I'm not even working in a medical facility, but I completely agree. Anyone that paranoid and/or ignorant of the existing science shouldn't be teaching anyone. Holy hell.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop paying teachers for work they aren’t doing and maybe their lackadaisical attitude toward reopening will shift.

Covid will be here for years, perhaps forever - even with a vaccine. Teachers (and all of us) will need to live with that. Not reopening schools for years isn’t an option.

Same teachers complaining about going into schools to pick up their belongings likely still going grocery shopping.

Going into a grocery store for 45 min. where everyone is masked, at a time when many people are otherwise staying home, and numbers are limited is quite different. Surely you can understand that? Surely you can understand the apprehension? I am not a teacher, but I’m so sick of the teacher hate on here. They didn’t cause the pandemic. No one was prepared for it.

And at my workplace, like many others, people are asking questions of their employers and advocating for the safest possible environment Upon return to work. Teachers are allowed to do that too, and hey, it will protect kids and families as well.

They aren’t just asking for safe work conditions - and yes, of course. There are multiple posters (teachers) who are saying not until a vaccine. That’s not reasonable.

Especially because there may actually NEVER be one? What then?

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Anonymous wrote:Stop paying teachers for work they aren’t doing and maybe their lackadaisical attitude toward reopening will shift.

Covid will be here for years, perhaps forever - even with a vaccine. Teachers (and all of us) will need to live with that. Not reopening schools for years isn’t an option.

Same teachers complaining about going into schools to pick up their belongings likely still going grocery shopping.

Going into a grocery store for 45 min. where everyone is masked, at a time when many people are otherwise staying home, and numbers are limited is quite different. Surely you can understand that? Surely you can understand the apprehension? I am not a teacher, but I’m so sick of the teacher hate on here. They didn’t cause the pandemic. No one was prepared for it.

And at my workplace, like many others, people are asking questions of their employers and advocating for the safest possible environment Upon return to work. Teachers are allowed to do that too, and hey, it will protect kids and families as well.

They aren’t just asking for safe work conditions - and yes, of course. There are multiple posters (teachers) who are saying not until a vaccine. That’s not reasonable.

+1 these moms are just crazy. Home school your kid if you want to live in fear forever. The rest of us want to actually work and have our kids back in school so we can keep our homes. The hysteria is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop paying teachers for work they aren’t doing and maybe their lackadaisical attitude toward reopening will shift.

Covid will be here for years, perhaps forever - even with a vaccine. Teachers (and all of us) will need to live with that. Not reopening schools for years isn’t an option.

Same teachers complaining about going into schools to pick up their belongings likely still going grocery shopping.

Going into a grocery store for 45 min. where everyone is masked, at a time when many people are otherwise staying home, and numbers are limited is quite different. Surely you can understand that? Surely you can understand the apprehension? I am not a teacher, but I’m so sick of the teacher hate on here. They didn’t cause the pandemic. No one was prepared for it.

I am also sick of the teacher hate, but being surprised teachers won't even enter the building isn't hate, it's science. PP described folks signing up in shifts, and wearing PPE. There is no credible disease transmission model for COVID that makes that a risky behaviour.

People aren’t wearing PPE, they are wearing cotton socks on their face.

If someone infected enters the stagnant building and exhales in the hallway through their janky mask before you, it can be suspended for 30 minutes for you to breathe it in.

If they carefully route teachers through separate entrances with 3 hrs between each person, that reduces risk considerably, but doubt they can coordinate that well.

OMGAYFS? (just take a guess at that that means)

Are you going through the back door at your grocery store or at target? Are you climbing through a separate window 3 hours after the customer in front of you? do you plan to wait 3 hours to enter a building until a vaccine comes out?

C'mon people.

Maybe im a little too numb because Im essential and have worked nonstop in a medical facility 6 days a week since this started. But I guarantee nobody in the real world (outside of school fairy tale land) is waiting 3 hours between each person ( or even 3 minutes) to enter a space.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop paying teachers for work they aren’t doing and maybe their lackadaisical attitude toward reopening will shift.

Covid will be here for years, perhaps forever - even with a vaccine. Teachers (and all of us) will need to live with that. Not reopening schools for years isn’t an option.

Same teachers complaining about going into schools to pick up their belongings likely still going grocery shopping.

Going into a grocery store for 45 min. where everyone is masked, at a time when many people are otherwise staying home, and numbers are limited is quite different. Surely you can understand that? Surely you can understand the apprehension? I am not a teacher, but I’m so sick of the teacher hate on here. They didn’t cause the pandemic. No one was prepared for it.

I am also sick of the teacher hate, but being surprised teachers won't even enter the building isn't hate, it's science. PP described folks signing up in shifts, and wearing PPE. There is no credible disease transmission model for COVID that makes that a risky behaviour.

People aren’t wearing PPE, they are wearing cotton socks on their face.

If someone infected enters the stagnant building and exhales in the hallway through their janky mask before you, it can be suspended for 30 minutes for you to breathe it in.

If they carefully route teachers through separate entrances with 3 hrs between each person, that reduces risk considerably, but doubt they can coordinate that well.

If the infection risk was this high, we’d have all been infected by now.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop paying teachers for work they aren’t doing and maybe their lackadaisical attitude toward reopening will shift.

Covid will be here for years, perhaps forever - even with a vaccine. Teachers (and all of us) will need to live with that. Not reopening schools for years isn’t an option.

Same teachers complaining about going into schools to pick up their belongings likely still going grocery shopping.

Going into a grocery store for 45 min. where everyone is masked, at a time when many people are otherwise staying home, and numbers are limited is quite different. Surely you can understand that? Surely you can understand the apprehension? I am not a teacher, but I’m so sick of the teacher hate on here. They didn’t cause the pandemic. No one was prepared for it.

I am also sick of the teacher hate, but being surprised teachers won't even enter the building isn't hate, it's science. PP described folks signing up in shifts, and wearing PPE. There is no credible disease transmission model for COVID that makes that a risky behaviour.

People aren’t wearing PPE, they are wearing cotton socks on their face.

If someone infected enters the stagnant building and exhales in the hallway through their janky mask before you, it can be suspended for 30 minutes for you to breathe it in.

If they carefully route teachers through separate entrances with 3 hrs between each person, that reduces risk considerably, but doubt they can coordinate that well.

Actually, no. I'll let a scientist come in with the numbers, but someone would need to be totally unmasked and actively ill and coughing for the viral load in the air 30 minutes later to be remotely dangerous.

Even an asymptomatic infected person would not exhale enough virus to infect another person walking down the same hall later in the day.

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They don't have any formal responsibility. If I email a teacher asking if they have heard of outschool, they will likely respond yes they have and we should give it a try. But they are not formally assigned to do anything or respond

The school gave you your tuition back and furloughed the teacher, but you still want the teacher to answer your questions?

Anonymous wrote:If other people can do it, we should be able to do it unless we are a bunch of whiners

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/05/21/viral-video-mom-rant-israel-kids-back-to-school-lon-orig-mkd.cnn

Wow. And she is a teacher too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop paying teachers for work they aren’t doing and maybe their lackadaisical attitude toward reopening will shift.

Covid will be here for years, perhaps forever - even with a vaccine. Teachers (and all of us) will need to live with that. Not reopening schools for years isn’t an option.

Same teachers complaining about going into schools to pick up their belongings likely still going grocery shopping.

Going into a grocery store for 45 min. where everyone is masked, at a time when many people are otherwise staying home, and numbers are limited is quite different. Surely you can understand that? Surely you can understand the apprehension? I am not a teacher, but I’m so sick of the teacher hate on here. They didn’t cause the pandemic. No one was prepared for it.

I am also sick of the teacher hate, but being surprised teachers won't even enter the building isn't hate, it's science. PP described folks signing up in shifts, and wearing PPE. There is no credible disease transmission model for COVID that makes that a risky behaviour.

People aren’t wearing PPE, they are wearing cotton socks on their face.

If someone infected enters the stagnant building and exhales in the hallway through their janky mask before you, it can be suspended for 30 minutes for you to breathe it in.

If they carefully route teachers through separate entrances with 3 hrs between each person, that reduces risk considerably, but doubt they can coordinate that well.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I've been in my office twice since "closing down", to retrieve hard copy files, pick up some supplies I'd need at home. We have to request a day and time. we're asked to wear a mask, and I hardly had any heartburn over it.

Probably because, if it's like my building, there's basically nobody else in it.

Yep. Returning to an empty building a low risk. Once we have a/b teams it’s a whole different risk spectrum.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS seems to subtly testing who in school-based staff is willing to return before a vaccine. Last week, DH and I got emails stating that we could sign up for slots to come pack our classrooms. We were promised PPE. If we declined, MCPS would have everything packed for us. DH declined. I signed up for a slot. I have second thoughts several times a day. Then today, there was a survey asking who was willing to teach some form of summer school. I declined.

Why? What are you busy doing? Both of you busy doing?

Why wouldn't you want to go in a room and pack your stuff? Is Corona floating in the hallway or something? Thats ridiculous.

Agree. Teacher pp sounds unhinged. If you are that scared about getting sick you should probably just find a new profession. I saw that as someone who is not a teacher but works with young children and I get sick 2-3 times per year with strep and/or the flu directly related to getting it from a kid. It's part of the job. You are much more likely to get sick with something else from them than COVID. Get a grip.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop paying teachers for work they aren’t doing and maybe their lackadaisical attitude toward reopening will shift.

Covid will be here for years, perhaps forever - even with a vaccine. Teachers (and all of us) will need to live with that. Not reopening schools for years isn’t an option.

Same teachers complaining about going into schools to pick up their belongings likely still going grocery shopping.

Going into a grocery store for 45 min. where everyone is masked, at a time when many people are otherwise staying home, and numbers are limited is quite different. Surely you can understand that? Surely you can understand the apprehension? I am not a teacher, but I’m so sick of the teacher hate on here. They didn’t cause the pandemic. No one was prepared for it.

I am also sick of the teacher hate, but being surprised teachers won't even enter the building isn't hate, it's science. PP described folks signing up in shifts, and wearing PPE. There is no credible disease transmission model for COVID that makes that a risky behaviour.

Clearly, we are witnessing a phenomenon of mass hysteria, which is why it will be so hard to have a reasonable approach to opening schools again.

+1 It's like the folks on my neighborhood list who love their minds whenever they see siblings playing in the front yard without masks. There is no way to transmit COVID from across the street, but they are still SO MAD at the idea that children might enjoy themselves outdoors.

They don't have any formal responsibility. If I email a teacher asking if they have heard of outschool, they will likely respond yes they have and we should give it a try. But they are not formally assigned to do anything or respond

The reason why federal employers, or really any reputable employer, block access to email during furlough is because what you are describing is illegal.