One of the RM cluster parents here.

What I’m about to say is going to be Un-PC. Many people will get upset and I’ll be flamed to high-heavens. This is not something one can say out loud.

Disruptions in the classroom - do we all know who is causing the disruptions in the classroom? The disruptions that take teacher away from educating our kids? The disruptions that can ruin a day for our kids? The ADHD kids or kids with other emotional issues. Usually white kids from good families.

Negative social stuff - do we know who causes the negative social stuff for my kids? The ADHD kids with their impulsivity tend to say mean, hurtful things to my kids. Other groups causing a negative social environment around my kids - mean, popular white kids. You know the type. My kids are more negatively influenced socially and academically by those groups of people than they are by the riff raff.

If you are so concerned about your kids not being disrupted in the classroom or by negative social influences, you’d better start a campaign to remove ADHD/emotionally troubled white kids from your kid’s school too.

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In a way, you are right. It won't take true bussing across county to break up communities. At most, 20 min ride.

Folks, this complete lack of consideration for your children and property ia completely characteristic of the entitled worthless social justice warriors. What they want to do is legal. Once they frame the argument in terms of segregation and how property lines were drawn in the 1950s (who cares?), battle is over. Any objection like "personal responsibility" and "social order" break against a finely honed victimhood complex displayed by every one of those activists.

Running candidates who share your views and voting for them is one approach; moving is another.

That sounds a lot like the arguments people used to oppose school desegregation in the 1950s and 1960s.

Families who value education are interested in history, right?

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As I said, you may not be concerned if the average student performance drops in your kids' school. That is perfectly fine. Different people can have different perspectives. But if some parents are concerned, I think that would be valid too.

When you consider what is for a "public good", you don't exclude these parents.

And in fact, the interest of parents directly involved should count more than those who are not directly involved but just trying to achieve a "social justice" for others (who may not even want it!)

Why the concern about other people's opinions about the validity of other people's concerns? Advocate for what you want to advocate for. Don't worry about what I think about it. I'm an anonymous poster on DCUM. I'm not the one making the decisions.

I'm pretty sure BoE would be aware of these.

Advocating my view has no conflict with discussing with anonymous posters here either.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the timing on the Clarksburg/NW/Seneca Valley boundary study? I think this noise is going to keep up until that decision is made.

The potential work that will be done by the consultant is very different but likely will create issues/upset people as well. But I really think people need to consider those issues separately.

The BOE will vote in November 2019; reassignments will take effect with the 2020-2021 school year.

curious how can people are for bussing which now given the climate changing? This means more committing

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT BUSING. Well, except the Chicken Littles on DCUM.

In a way, you are right. It won't take true bussing across county to break up communities. At most, 20 min ride.

Folks, this complete lack of consideration for your children and property ia completely characteristic of the entitled worthless social justice warriors. What they want to do is legal. Once they frame the argument in terms of segregation and how property lines were drawn in the 1950s (who cares?), battle is over. Any objection like "personal responsibility" and "social order" break against a finely honed victimhood complex displayed by every one of those activists.

Running candidates who share your views and voting for them is one approach; moving is another.

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This is all so exhausting. I’m already living in the horrific dystopia you are imagining — a school with 50+% FARMS — and it’s FINE. Actually better than fine. My child is thriving.

You think that your child is thriving because half of your child's peers can't pass basic grade level tests. Its EASY to think you are doing great when the competition is so low and the bar set even lower. Do you play sports with people over 95 years old? I bet you're a real athlete and just thriving at that sport.

Oh dear God. No, MAP scores are normed nationally. I am a teacher. I see what they read, what they write, what they do in math. You may try but you cannot cling to this fairy tale where all children do great at great schools and all children do terribly at terrible schools.

+10

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This is all so exhausting. I’m already living in the horrific dystopia you are imagining — a school with 50+% FARMS — and it’s FINE. Actually better than fine. My child is thriving.

You think that your child is thriving because half of your child's peers can't pass basic grade level tests. Its EASY to think you are doing great when the competition is so low and the bar set even lower. Do you play sports with people over 95 years old? I bet you're a real athlete and just thriving at that sport.

Oh dear God. No, MAP scores are normed nationally. I am a teacher. I see what they read, what they write, what they do in math. You may try but you cannot cling to this fairy tale where all children do great at great schools and all children do terribly at terrible schools.

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This is all so exhausting. I’m already living in the horrific dystopia you are imagining — a school with 50+% FARMS — and it’s FINE. Actually better than fine. My child is thriving.

You think that your child is thriving because half of your child's peers can't pass basic grade level tests. Its EASY to think you are doing great when the competition is so low and the bar set even lower. Do you play sports with people over 95 years old? I bet you're a real athlete and just thriving at that sport.

DP... wow, you're an a$$.

If a student is taking all APs/honors, getting straight As and at the same time have great after school activities that the student enjoys, and a great social group, isn't that person "thriving"? I bet such a student is happier and has a pretty good chance of getting into a great university compared to a student at wealthy school who is miserable trying to keep up with the high pressure cooker environment, and who has to self medicate to cope with not just peer pressure but parental pressure.

-signed a parent in the RM cluster

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This is all so exhausting. I’m already living in the horrific dystopia you are imagining — a school with 50+% FARMS — and it’s FINE. Actually better than fine. My child is thriving.

You think that your child is thriving because half of your child's peers can't pass basic grade level tests. Its EASY to think you are doing great when the competition is so low and the bar set even lower. Do you play sports with people over 95 years old? I bet you're a real athlete and just thriving at that sport.

So you know more about the PP's child than the PP?

This is all so exhausting. I’m already living in the horrific dystopia you are imagining — a school with 50+% FARMS — and it’s FINE. Actually better than fine. My child is thriving.

You think that your child is thriving because half of your child's peers can't pass basic grade level tests. Its EASY to think you are doing great when the competition is so low and the bar set even lower. Do you play sports with people over 95 years old? I bet you're a real athlete and just thriving at that sport.

My kid assigned to a Clarksburg school is going to do awesome no matter where she ends up. The other kids won't have an impact on her performance as she kicks ass on her own and knows better than to hang out with kids who are up to no good.

Anonymous wrote:This is all so exhausting. I’m already living in the horrific dystopia you are imagining — a school with 50+% FARMS — and it’s FINE. Actually better than fine. My child is thriving. I bet none of you have any idea what % low-income your own high schools were. Since they started publishing the data it’s become a sick badge of honor to have no poor kids. People obsessed with that number are just fundamentally wrong. Wrong that it will affect their own UMC child negatively in any meaningful way, wrong that the sky is falling in general, and morally wrong.

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This is all so exhausting. I’m already living in the horrific dystopia you are imagining — a school with 50+% FARMS — and it’s FINE. Actually better than fine. My child is thriving. I bet none of you have any idea what % low-income your own high schools were. Since they started publishing the data it’s become a sick badge of honor to have no poor kids. People obsessed with that number are just fundamentally wrong. Wrong that it will affect their own UMC child negatively in any meaningful way, wrong that the sky is falling in general, and morally wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's back up - what is everyone's fear? What does everyone consider to be a path of destruction in regards to boundary changes? What do you think is going to happen?

Does everyone think your school that has FARMS < 10% will suddenly become a school with FARMS > 50%?

Or are you scared that your school's FARM rates will be about 25%

Give us numbers - tell us exactly what you fear.

-Signed, a white, high-income parent in the RM cluster who has no plans to move and just doesn't understand all this fear.

Everyone's fear is that there's only so much good stuff to go around, so they need to make sure that their kids get it. Opportunity hoarding.

I'm an Asian American high income parent in the RM cluster, and I don't get the "the sky is falling" fear on this forum, either. But maybe that's because we -- the ^PP and I -- already live in a cluster that has a 20%ish FARMs rate, and we have no plans to move out of the cluster because of the consultants that the BOE is hiring to look at a better way to draw boundaries. Maybe the W parents think RM cluster already has a too high FARMs rate so that's why we don't care about the study?

Is it only the W parents that seem to have this "the sky is falling" irrational fear?

I don’t think it’s the W parents. I think it’s the Clarksburg/NW parents who may get rezoned to Seneca Valley. But maybe I’m wrong ... could be W parents too. They’re a popular target here.

It may be the Clarksburg/NW parents, but you'd better believe it's some of the W parents, too. Look at how WJ parents are *flipping out* around Woodward/DCC reassignment. If they're a target, it's because they make themselves that. I know plenty of people IRL who fit that exact profile.

We're a white, high-income family in the DCC who also aren't freaking out, because we're confident our kids will do well regardless of where they'll go, for various reasons.

Haven’t seen W parents flipping out over Woodward. They are really excited to finally get a performing arts magnet. There appear to be some DCC folks who want to get K-P moved to Einstein and their school moved into WJ. I’ve seen a lot about that on DCUM. But honestly, right now, this is mostly an upcounty issue. Woodward isn’t opening until 2025 at the earliest.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the timing on the Clarksburg/NW/Seneca Valley boundary study? I think this noise is going to keep up until that decision is made.

The potential work that will be done by the consultant is very different but likely will create issues/upset people as well. But I really think people need to consider those issues separately.

The BOE will vote in November 2019; reassignments will take effect with the 2020-2021 school year.

curious how can people are for bussing which now given the climate changing? This means more committing

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT BUSING. Well, except the Chicken Littles on DCUM.

Anonymous wrote:

As I said, you may not be concerned if the average student performance drops in your kids' school. That is perfectly fine. Different people can have different perspectives. But if some parents are concerned, I think that would be valid too.

When you consider what is for a "public good", you don't exclude these parents.

And in fact, the interest of parents directly involved should count more than those who are not directly involved but just trying to achieve a "social justice" for others (who may not even want it!)

Why the concern about other people's opinions about the validity of other people's concerns? Advocate for what you want to advocate for. Don't worry about what I think about it. I'm an anonymous poster on DCUM. I'm not the one making the decisions.