Anonymous
Post 01/21/2019 09:35     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

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Anonymous wrote:I find it telling that this thread is void of the Spirit VA DA hype man.

I guess the upcoming ECNL ID sessions will tell all.


The "hype man" is probably very upset that this is a possibility, along with the rest of us. The reason why many Spirit VA parents are so upset about this is that they like the way Torres and staff are developing their kids and they are upset about the possibility they may have to scramble to other, less preferred options. Believe it or not, there are actually many parents who have gone out of their way to avoid options such as FCV, Loudoun, BRYC, and McLean.


In my opinion all 4 of those are better options than WS VA. Seriously.


Well, you know what they say.....opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one


And if Washington spirit was as awesome as you seem to think it is, we wouldn’t even be having these discussions about it’s dissolution, would we? It’s not worth keeping.


It’s clear you don’t know the reasons. I get that you are blinded by your disdain for WS, but this came up because of the new owner’s doubts about running the DA programs, not how “awesome” the programs may or may not be. If it were up to him alone, with no consequence to the bigger picture and ramifications to US Soccer/DA, then both programs could be cut. That’s still a possibility; neither has announced ID sessions. And that has nothing to do with awesomeness or results, it has everything to do with the whims of the new guy.

There are plenty of WS parents who are happy with the programs and upset that this is a possibility. If you don’t find worth there, no need to stick around here and push your campaign against programs that have a decent possibility of closing down. Go and pump your club of choice.


Thank you. Totally agree. - another WS parent who hopes things don't fold
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2019 08:08     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find it telling that this thread is void of the Spirit VA DA hype man.

I guess the upcoming ECNL ID sessions will tell all.


The "hype man" is probably very upset that this is a possibility, along with the rest of us. The reason why many Spirit VA parents are so upset about this is that they like the way Torres and staff are developing their kids and they are upset about the possibility they may have to scramble to other, less preferred options. Believe it or not, there are actually many parents who have gone out of their way to avoid options such as FCV, Loudoun, BRYC, and McLean.


In my opinion all 4 of those are better options than WS VA. Seriously.


Well, you know what they say.....opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one


And if Washington spirit was as awesome as you seem to think it is, we wouldn’t even be having these discussions about it’s dissolution, would we? It’s not worth keeping.


It’s clear you don’t know the reasons. I get that you are blinded by your disdain for WS, but this came up because of the new owner’s doubts about running the DA programs, not how “awesome” the programs may or may not be. If it were up to him alone, with no consequence to the bigger picture and ramifications to US Soccer/DA, then both programs could be cut. That’s still a possibility; neither has announced ID sessions. And that has nothing to do with awesomeness or results, it has everything to do with the whims of the new guy.

There are plenty of WS parents who are happy with the programs and upset that this is a possibility. If you don’t find worth there, no need to stick around here and push your campaign against programs that have a decent possibility of closing down. Go and pump your club of choice.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 23:21     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find it telling that this thread is void of the Spirit VA DA hype man.

I guess the upcoming ECNL ID sessions will tell all.


The "hype man" is probably very upset that this is a possibility, along with the rest of us. The reason why many Spirit VA parents are so upset about this is that they like the way Torres and staff are developing their kids and they are upset about the possibility they may have to scramble to other, less preferred options. Believe it or not, there are actually many parents who have gone out of their way to avoid options such as FCV, Loudoun, BRYC, and McLean.


In my opinion all 4 of those are better options than WS VA. Seriously.


Well, you know what they say.....opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one


And if Washington spirit was as awesome as you seem to think it is, we wouldn’t even be having these discussions about it’s dissolution, would we? It’s not worth keeping.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 21:54     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find it telling that this thread is void of the Spirit VA DA hype man.

I guess the upcoming ECNL ID sessions will tell all.


The "hype man" is probably very upset that this is a possibility, along with the rest of us. The reason why many Spirit VA parents are so upset about this is that they like the way Torres and staff are developing their kids and they are upset about the possibility they may have to scramble to other, less preferred options. Believe it or not, there are actually many parents who have gone out of their way to avoid options such as FCV, Loudoun, BRYC, and McLean.


In my opinion all 4 of those are better options than WS VA. Seriously.


Well, you know what they say.....opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 21:30     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find it telling that this thread is void of the Spirit VA DA hype man.

I guess the upcoming ECNL ID sessions will tell all.


The "hype man" is probably very upset that this is a possibility, along with the rest of us. The reason why many Spirit VA parents are so upset about this is that they like the way Torres and staff are developing their kids and they are upset about the possibility they may have to scramble to other, less preferred options. Believe it or not, there are actually many parents who have gone out of their way to avoid options such as FCV, Loudoun, BRYC, and McLean.


In my opinion all 4 of those are better options than WS VA. Seriously.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 20:48     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty slippery slope WS has put themselves on. Puts all their players in a year by year wait and see posture even if they continue.


Disagree with this. They aren’t changing ownership every year. This is directly related to that. If the decision is to continue, then there’s no more reason to re-evaluate yearly any more so than other small club environments. I can think of a few others who are top heavy with a nonexistent u little pipeline and rec environment to lean on.


The extra reason is that the owner could easily revisit this every year, even if he is convinced to keep on for 2019-20.


But that could be said for every club with an ECNL/DA team, to be fair. There is no guaranty that any club will be in existence a year from now, let alone a guaranty that the ECNL league or DA league will be in existence a year from now. Anything is technically possible.

If Spirit makes a decision to keep their DA program, then I would not bet that the owner is going to change his mind a year from now and disband it. I get that he could theoretically could do so, but it would not be likely. More likely would be Spirit or the NWSL going bankrupt and shutting down. But again, expect the typical World Cup boost in attendance this coming season.


I agree with this view as well. If Jill Ellis can keep it together then this year and next will be very good years for NWSL and the Spirit.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 20:45     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty slippery slope WS has put themselves on. Puts all their players in a year by year wait and see posture even if they continue.


Disagree with this. They aren’t changing ownership every year. This is directly related to that. If the decision is to continue, then there’s no more reason to re-evaluate yearly any more so than other small club environments. I can think of a few others who are top heavy with a nonexistent u little pipeline and rec environment to lean on.


The extra reason is that the owner could easily revisit this every year, even if he is convinced to keep on for 2019-20.


But that could be said for every club with an ECNL/DA team, to be fair. There is no guaranty that any club will be in existence a year from now, let alone a guaranty that the ECNL league or DA league will be in existence a year from now. Anything is technically possible.

If Spirit makes a decision to keep their DA program, then I would not bet that the owner is going to change his mind a year from now and disband it. I get that he could theoretically could do so, but it would not be likely. More likely would be Spirit or the NWSL going bankrupt and shutting down. But again, expect the typical World Cup boost in attendance this coming season.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 20:33     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty slippery slope WS has put themselves on. Puts all their players in a year by year wait and see posture even if they continue.


Disagree with this. They aren’t changing ownership every year. This is directly related to that. If the decision is to continue, then there’s no more reason to re-evaluate yearly any more so than other small club environments. I can think of a few others who are top heavy with a nonexistent u little pipeline and rec environment to lean on.


The extra reason is that the owner could easily revisit this every year, even if he is convinced to keep on for 2019-20.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 20:28     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:Pretty slippery slope WS has put themselves on. Puts all their players in a year by year wait and see posture even if they continue.


Disagree with this. They aren’t changing ownership every year. This is directly related to that. If the decision is to continue, then there’s no more reason to re-evaluate yearly any more so than other small club environments. I can think of a few others who are top heavy with a nonexistent u little pipeline and rec environment to lean on.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 19:56     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Pretty slippery slope WS has put themselves on. Puts all their players in a year by year wait and see posture even if they continue.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 19:50     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

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Anonymous wrote:Realistically at u15-19 where are sprit players going to go. Bryc FCV and McLean don't need players at those age groups, very few would make those teams. VDA and Arlington?


Realistically, that's not correct. The bottom 25 percent of every roster is up for grabs. Teams always looking to improve their depth. The vast majority of Spirit kids will find an ECNL team. Realistically speaking.


That's a little ambitious for a the level of play Spirit has put forward so far - for the vast majority of players realistically.

Time will tell.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 19:37     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:Realistically at u15-19 where are sprit players going to go. Bryc FCV and McLean don't need players at those age groups, very few would make those teams. VDA and Arlington?


Realistically, that's not correct. The bottom 25 percent of every roster is up for grabs. Teams always looking to improve their depth. The vast majority of Spirit kids will find an ECNL team. Realistically speaking.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 19:17     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Realistically at u15-19 where are sprit players going to go. Bryc FCV and McLean don't need players at those age groups, very few would make those teams. VDA and Arlington?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 18:02     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:Last week there were a series of meetings taking place with Great Falls/Reston and all the other individuals involved for everyone to get on the same page. This just happened last week.


Get on the same page about what? Spirit dissolving?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2019 18:00     Subject: BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

Anonymous wrote:A WS shutdown is not the worse thing. The market needs to consolidate but more so in VA than MD. NoVA already has seven elite options at the younger ages and losing WSVA will help the remaining six.

MD will suffer because there are limited options already.


Perhaps not for you, but for the 200 or so Spirit girls it is going to be a shit show.