Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 20:05     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
37041 and 37042 are not currently at Henry, so I don't think they should be in your numbers.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 19:36     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Henry planning units south of the Pike have a FARMS rate of about 40%. Can someone explain to me how that’s considered wealthy? I guess we’re just expecting a single block of nicer homes to save an entire school.


To make sure we are talking about the same thing-- Here are the Henry Planning Units south of the Pike, and here are their respective FARMS rates;

46010- 61 students, 27 FARMS (44%)
46011- 20 students, 0-9 FARMS
46130 - 12 students, 0-9 FARMS
46133- 12 students, 0-9 FARMS
46132- 35 students, 15 FARMS (42%)
46131- 17 students, 0-9 FARMS
46120- 52 students, 12 FARMS (23%)

Total of 209 students. Total of a minimum of 58 FARMS and a maximum of 90 FARMs. So a FARMS rate between 27% and 43%. The only way you can get to the higher number is if you assume that all of the 0-9 numbers are actually 9. Given that the area is mostly SFH and rowhomes the higher number seems extraordinarily unlikely to me.




I think I just figured out how to figure out this area's actual rate. Here are the rest of the Henry zoned units
46100- 63 students, 18 FARMS
46101- 76 students, 40 FARMS
46102- 99 students, 23 FARMS
46900- 41 students, 16 FARMS
46920- 37 students (1-9 FARMS)
46020- 57 students (1-9 FARMS)
46021- 50 students, 10 FARMS
46022, 61 students, 22 FARMS
37041- 21 students, 12 FARMS
37042- 9 students, 1-9 FARMS
so somewhere between 143-158 FARMS students in the rest of the Henry zone. We know that the zone has 215 FARMS students total. WE know precisely which planning units 201 of those studetns come from. The other 14 students are either from south of the pike, or north of the pike- or split between.
If we attribute all 14 to the south of the pike units that would be 72 FARMs students there- for a FARMS rate of 34%.


Notably- this also illustrates the complete lie of 'keep henry together' that they need to keep the south of the pike units for their 'diversity.' At most they are simply consistent with the rest of the zone.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 19:32     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Henry planning units south of the Pike have a FARMS rate of about 40%. Can someone explain to me how that’s considered wealthy? I guess we’re just expecting a single block of nicer homes to save an entire school.


To make sure we are talking about the same thing-- Here are the Henry Planning Units south of the Pike, and here are their respective FARMS rates;

46010- 61 students, 27 FARMS (44%)
46011- 20 students, 0-9 FARMS
46130 - 12 students, 0-9 FARMS
46133- 12 students, 0-9 FARMS
46132- 35 students, 15 FARMS (42%)
46131- 17 students, 0-9 FARMS
46120- 52 students, 12 FARMS (23%)

Total of 209 students. Total of a minimum of 58 FARMS and a maximum of 90 FARMs. So a FARMS rate between 27% and 43%. The only way you can get to the higher number is if you assume that all of the 0-9 numbers are actually 9. Given that the area is mostly SFH and rowhomes the higher number seems extraordinarily unlikely to me.




I think I just figured out how to figure out this area's actual rate. Here are the rest of the Henry zoned units
46100- 63 students, 18 FARMS
46101- 76 students, 40 FARMS
46102- 99 students, 23 FARMS
46900- 41 students, 16 FARMS
46920- 37 students (1-9 FARMS)
46020- 57 students (1-9 FARMS)
46021- 50 students, 10 FARMS
46022, 61 students, 22 FARMS
37041- 21 students, 12 FARMS
37042- 9 students, 1-9 FARMS
so somewhere between 143-158 FARMS students in the rest of the Henry zone. We know that the zone has 215 FARMS students total. WE know precisely which planning units 201 of those studetns come from. The other 14 students are either from south of the pike, or north of the pike- or split between.
If we attribute all 14 to the south of the pike units that would be 72 FARMs students there- for a FARMS rate of 34%.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 19:05     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:The Henry planning units south of the Pike have a FARMS rate of about 40%. Can someone explain to me how that’s considered wealthy? I guess we’re just expecting a single block of nicer homes to save an entire school.


To make sure we are talking about the same thing-- Here are the Henry Planning Units south of the Pike, and here are their respective FARMS rates;

46010- 61 students, 27 FARMS (44%)
46011- 20 students, 0-9 FARMS
46130 - 12 students, 0-9 FARMS
46133- 12 students, 0-9 FARMS
46132- 35 students, 15 FARMS (42%)
46131- 17 students, 0-9 FARMS
46120- 52 students, 12 FARMS (23%)

Total of 209 students. Total of a minimum of 58 FARMS and a maximum of 90 FARMs. So a FARMS rate between 27% and 43%. The only way you can get to the higher number is if you assume that all of the 0-9 numbers are actually 9. Given that the area is mostly SFH and rowhomes the higher number seems extraordinarily unlikely to me.


Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 16:28     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:The Henry planning units south of the Pike have a FARMS rate of about 40%. Can someone explain to me how that’s considered wealthy? I guess we’re just expecting a single block of nicer homes to save an entire school.


No one called them wealthy, but point of fact, one can't buy a SFH in either of those neighborhoods for less than $600k, and the 2 bedroom units in Columbia heights run close to $400k. People who can come up with a down payment for either are not poor. I know it's hard for you to fathom but Drew is 80% percent disadvantaged. So yes, even an area that is borderline title 1 would be a meaningful improvement.

Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 15:59     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
The Henry planning units south of the Pike have a FARMS rate of about 40%. Can someone explain to me how that’s considered wealthy? I guess we’re just expecting a single block of nicer homes to save an entire school.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 15:36     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree the boundaries they made for Drew are terrible. I do. And I’ve said that to APS and will again. Henry asking to stay together was never asking Drew to get a bad start.

Henry parents did not draw that map. So stop being vile to them. Give the school some credit.


It's sort of unbelievable that Arlington heights Henry parents feel guilty about leaving behind "poorer" classmates who can afford 400k homes but not give a crap about actually poor kids 3 blocks further away at Drew and Randolph.



Wow. I can't argue with someone who is omniscient.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 14:20     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:I agree the boundaries they made for Drew are terrible. I do. And I’ve said that to APS and will again. Henry asking to stay together was never asking Drew to get a bad start.

Henry parents did not draw that map. So stop being vile to them. Give the school some credit.


It's sort of unbelievable that Arlington heights Henry parents feel guilty about leaving behind "poorer" classmates who can afford 400k homes but not give a crap about actually poor kids 3 blocks further away at Drew and Randolph.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 14:17     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:I agree the boundaries they made for Drew are terrible. I do. And I’ve said that to APS and will again. Henry asking to stay together was never asking Drew to get a bad start.

Henry parents did not draw that map. So stop being vile to them. Give the school some credit.


Your choices and preferences have consequences and you can't just say "don't blame me." You lobbied staff and school board for months and that map reflects it.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 13:10     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The 1-9 farms units with 20 kids in Columbia Heights won’t help Drew. The 1-9 farms unit in Fairlington with 100+ kids will help Drew.


Exactly.


You guys can all go to Drew.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 13:00     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:The 1-9 farms units with 20 kids in Columbia Heights won’t help Drew. The 1-9 farms unit in Fairlington with 100+ kids will help Drew.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 12:39     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:Um, OK. The first time APS proposed building an elementary school at TJ the neighbors fought hard and were successful in saying no way. That forced APS to go back and renegotiate. A new deal was struck. The neighbors stopped protesting. You do realize this is how things happen in Arlington, yes?


You mean the Jefferson working group that concluded they didn't have enough info to make the best descion? There was no negotiation. The SAWG agreed that Jefferson was the best placement of the new school

There were protestors showing up at SAWG from TJ.

Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 12:17     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
The 1-9 farms units with 20 kids in Columbia Heights won’t help Drew. The 1-9 farms unit in Fairlington with 100+ kids will help Drew.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 12:08     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
I agree the boundaries they made for Drew are terrible. I do. And I’ve said that to APS and will again. Henry asking to stay together was never asking Drew to get a bad start.

Henry parents did not draw that map. So stop being vile to them. Give the school some credit.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 11:52     Subject: Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless you are willing to believe that the school is actually a tight knit community that would mourn the loss of a third of the school. Or that you believe that the wealthier units north of the pike might feel badly about leaving behind the poorer units south. And that they feel strongly enough about that they would have opposed the new school if they really thought that was what would happen.


I believe all those things. I just don't believe the guilt and hurt feelings of wealthy Henry parents, matter enough to create a school that is 85% poor at Drew, which actually has real long term consequences for student education and opportunity. And I certainly don't think APS has any obligation to protect the real estate values of the Henry PUs south of the pike, which is a MAJOR reason behind t-shirt brigade, just as it was when Arlington Forest fought going to Wakefield.


Agree.


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