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Anonymous wrote:Cherrydalers suck!

Please. We live in Cherryvale and perfectly happy at Taylor. All of my kid's closest friends happen to live close to key and asfs so he'll lose his closest friends. We did not lobby for any of this. Even the families I know who live close to asfs told me they preferred to stay at Taylor so not all of us want this.

Let me be more specific then: the ones behind this fiasco suck.

They may have jumped on the opportunity, but they didn’t create it. Without neighborhood preference, Key has to be a neighborhood school. There are just too many kids around it for it.

The mass of ASFS humanity at office hours etc can now oAt themselces in tbe back and think they kept it as a neighborhood school. But really, it was the principals and the idea of putting both schools perhaps closer together and moving one to Carlin Springs.

Now, Tallento is going to try and prevent CS from becoming an option school crying about the traffic. But, she better lose. This plan makes much more sense so long as they don’t move ATS to the NW and make it the N Arlington free private school.

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Anonymous wrote:Move ATS to a location in s Arlington.

If this happens, I think you will see much fewer families from N Arlington applying (which will be a good thing). I think you also put into its admissions process more slots from schools that are above capacity and scale it somehow.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did I miss?

I have not been able to follow APS for just the last 24 hours.

The thread was on page 4 with their 'server breakdown' I believe.

It's a complete mess I assume?

Does anyone have a link to the pertinent information/data/summaries?
Which page on this thread has links?

Thanks!

It's all on the APS webite. Engage With Us -> Current initiatives -> Elementary planning.

The upshot is:

Campbell is staying where it is.

Claremont immersion is moving to Carlin Springs; Claremont will become neighborhood.

Key is become a neighborhood school.

For the rest, there are two options being reviewed:

1) The immersion program currently at Key moves to the ATS site and the ATS program will move to Nottingham; or
2) ATS will stay where it is and the immersion program at Key will move to Barcroft. If this happens, they will likely create a single immersion lottery for all of the county, and then will assign students who accept seats in the program to each school based on what makes for the most efficient busing routes.

NP here. Full disclosure NO skin in this as none of our kids will be going to any of the schools listed above, but curious, what happens to Nottingham if immersion is moved from Key to Barcroft. Won't there be tons of over crowding in the south if barcroft kids get displced? Can they guarantee enough native English speaking kids if both immersion moves to the south?

Anonymous wrote:Move ATS to a location in s Arlington.

Anonymous wrote:No skin in this game, but seems like ATS should be left alone. Strong demand, great results....if it ain’t broke..

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did I miss?

I have not been able to follow APS for just the last 24 hours.

The thread was on page 4 with their 'server breakdown' I believe.

It's a complete mess I assume?

Does anyone have a link to the pertinent information/data/summaries?
Which page on this thread has links?

Thanks!

It's all on the APS webite. Engage With Us -> Current initiatives -> Elementary planning.

The upshot is:

Campbell is staying where it is.

Claremont immersion is moving to Carlin Springs; Claremont will become neighborhood.

Key is become a neighborhood school.

For the rest, there are two options being reviewed:

1) The immersion program currently at Key moves to the ATS site and the ATS program will move to Nottingham; or
2) ATS will stay where it is and the immersion program at Key will move to Barcroft. If this happens, they will likely create a single immersion lottery for all of the county, and then will assign students who accept seats in the program to each school based on what makes for the most efficient busing routes.

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to paraphrase/cross-post what I just posted on the ATS to IB thread, because I think it's very relevant to this discuss as well but I realize most of the people here aren't looking at that thread. All of the sniping going on is just noise and details, but there is a really big core decision that needs to be made regarding our priorities as a community. There's no point in sniping about whether Nottingham should be the option site in NW until the bigger decision was made.

Leaving aside the exact details of where, the choice presented in the second draft analysis is essentially this: Is it more important that we maintain/improve neighborhood school proximity and reduce crowding in South Arlington, or that we maintain/improve access to choice programs while also improving the diversity balance across elementary schools?

Moving immersion to ATS and ATS to another school in NW (Nottingham or otherwise) will reduce access to ATS from South Arlington and make it less diverse overall. This will for a few reasons, namely that the new location will make VPI less accessible to ED families, it would increase applications to ATS from that corner of the community, and it would reduce applications from South Arlington. The transfer report on ATS makes it pretty clear that proximity to the program is a big part of who attends. On the plus side, keeping both of these option programs in North Arlington means more neighborhood seats in South Arlington, so more families there can be in close proximity to less crowded neighborhood schools.

On the other hand, keeping ATS where it is and moving immersion to Barcroft means maintaining greater access to ATS for South Arlington, making immersion even more accessible, and potentially breaking up the poverty clusters around Carlin Springs and Barcroft (and possibly cascading to Randolph as well) if APS were to start busing kids across 50 (Ashlawn will have tons of excess capacity after Reed, and busing across 50 means no crazy boundaries there anymore). The resulting shift in boundaries could do a lot to improve socioeconomic diversity generally in the elementary schools. The downside to all of this increased access to option schools and improvements in diversity is that South Arlington would have fewer neighborhood seats (how many fewer would depend on how the moves affected applications to choice programs from North Arlington), and many families may lose proximity to their neighborhood schools. Since ED families generally face the greatest challenges from losing proximity to neighborhood schools and from overcrowding, this is no small consideration.

That's a really big decision to make on policy/priorities, and it's not an easy one. Until we decide where we fall on that, the rest of this debate is just a waste of our time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did I miss?

I have not been able to follow APS for just the last 24 hours.

The thread was on page 4 with their 'server breakdown' I believe.

It's a complete mess I assume?

Does anyone have a link to the pertinent information/data/summaries?
Which page on this thread has links?

Thanks!

It's all on the APS webite. Engage With Us -> Current initiatives -> Elementary planning.

The upshot is:

Campbell is staying where it is.

Claremont immersion is moving to Carlin Springs; Claremont will become neighborhood.

Key is become a neighborhood school.

For the rest, there are two options being reviewed:

1) The immersion program currently at Key moves to the ATS site and the ATS program will move to Nottingham; or
2) ATS will stay where it is and the immersion program at Key will move to Barcroft. If this happens, they will likely create a single immersion lottery for all of the county, and then will assign students who accept seats in the program to each school based on what makes for the most efficient busing routes.

Anonymous wrote:What did I miss?

I have not been able to follow APS for just the last 24 hours.

The thread was on page 4 with their 'server breakdown' I believe.

It's a complete mess I assume?

Does anyone have a link to the pertinent information/data/summaries?
Which page on this thread has links?

Thanks!

Anonymous wrote:I live in Barcroft, I am not keen on having Barcroft potentially being an option school. The school is right smack in the middle of a residential neighborhood that is already burdened by WAZE and other apps that have changed our small streets (some without sidewalks) into a major cut through areas. if this were North Arlington, I bet the traffic considerations would be taken more seriously.

Second, where are all the local Barcorft kids going to go? There is no room at Randolph, Carlin Springs or Barrett for more kids, unless they set up a trailer city and make kids cross, gasp! route 50 and Columbia Pike. We are talking 4 hundred or more kids, although this will ensure that Alcova gets into Fleet. I thought the goal was to reduce the number of buses, not increase them.