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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

+1 “These women” that came before are precisely the reason younger women have a seat at the table and the rights they do now. What a bunch of ungrateful douches.

You completely missed the point. Of course older women are educated and have careers. My 84 y/o mom had me, her first, at 40 and has a PhD in organic chemistry. I was talking about and replying to the PP who said that most of the women identify as wives only and their marriage is their entire soul, so it's understandable when they snap and kill the AP and themselves, as there is nothing else important for them outside their marriage. This is unthinkable for someone 40 or younger. If there are any women left who define themselves by their marital status only, they are older women, especially those who married young, like the wife in this story.

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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

I have no idea what that pp is talking about.

Even my 85 year old illiterate grandmother, who married at 18 and went on to have 12 children, had a lot going for her besides her marriage. She bought and sold anything she could get her hands on. She had church, choir, and several meeting groups that she was comitted to. She had an extended family that she loved and cared for and vice versa.

My grandfather was a successful man and a very present father, but my grandmother's identity was obviously separate from his. These women with identities that are primarily dependent on their marriages must be very rare because I don't know any of them.

Codependent. Dime a dozen.

Okay, let’s see how independent and unfazed you feel when you husband cheats on you with a woman ten years younger after 20 years together. I’ll wait.

NP here and we're close to the 20-year mark. I'd have an affair (or two) myself and do a prenup to protect the kids' future assets. No kids? I'd flee tomorrow, date A LOT, spend time with my single girlfriends, travel. Definitely not kill someone and/or myself. This is what a sane person would do.

That sounds pretty good. Two affairs! Have you got them picked out?

Like the worst advice. Bringing more wackos who have zero scruples cheating with married people isn't safe or wise....as we've seen!
Look where it landed Meredith.

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Anonymous wrote:^ you need to read more critically. No one is justifying murder. Lots of people are recognizing that the wife was abused (gaslit, etc) and had a breakdown as a result, and was obviously (and understandably) not stable at the end.

And that if you want to greatly reduce your chances of a crazy person going after you or your family, don’t f@“”ck and maintain a relationship with somebody that’s married. Pretty simple.

We have different takes on this. For me the lesson is that your marriage should not be the only thing that you have going for you. You need close friends and family. You need to build a world outside your marriage. You cannot own a human being. If someone does not want to be married to you move on. She is dead and buried. And he is living his life, putting his ugly face out there, using her name to seek attention.

Yes. All that can be true AND so can be the concept that getting involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with someone else's husband or wife invites psychosis and danger.

You are absolutely right. It's just that the murderous act stands out to me more than anything else.

I am someone who will never cheat or date an involved man. But I cannot understand how one goes from being a victim of cheating to a murderer. It's so senseless. So it's harder for me to focus on that smaller yet obvious lesson.

I didn’t either. Until I was 100% completely blindsided finding out about a multi-year affair two decades into marriage with kids. Great marriage/sex life/happy family. I went to a very dark place. I practically had a nervous breakdown and reality was distorted. Nobody in our circle ever could have predicted this. It really shocked so many. I was not sleeping or eating. I couldn’t. That does a number on your mental health.

I had my own income, a great family and was strong mentally so I can see if somebody had past trauma or was slightly unstable prior or had underlying mental health issues—how in that incredible loony fog they could commit a crime of passion. Insomnia over an extended period of time does a number on your sense of reality.

I have always had a great fear of prison. I watched far too many prison documentaries. For a few weeks the thought of prison and what it would do to my kids was the only thing stopping me. I scared myself. It really is one of those- unless you lived it (long happy marriage with unconditional trust) you could never understand what it’s really like. It’s nothing like I imagined or in the movies.

I know I would never murder, but I can see why it is common in these situations.

You could hear from the audio she spiraled into a deep depression. I don't know how much her upcoming hysterectomy played into this, but it was confirmed she didn't have prior mental health issues in their marriage. Mark tried to write a book on that, and it was discovered untrue. If anything he seemed to be the unstable one who was immature, and cheated before. When she caught him he said somehow he got drunk, and landed in this women's bed, LOL. Tells you a lot about Mark right there. Someone mentioned his friend agreed with Mark about Jennair, lol. Well this friend was just like Mark, and was with him when he cheated and probably goaded him on. This so called friend advised Mark to keep seeing Meredith....yes what a nasty friend. Mark wasn't wise, and Jennair knew this guy friend was no good all along. She was wiser, and Mark was the cute guy that was too much into self gratification. He stated they would fight about money, yet didn't mention he was the spender and problem in all that. I also noticed Mark was driving some sporty convertible...while they were suppose to be starting over, and getting their finances on track.... Again like Jennair said in her own words, it was a parent-child relationship.

The man seems like price!!!!! I am not killing myself and someone else over this piece of garbage, deep depression or not.

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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

I have no idea what that pp is talking about.

Even my 85 year old illiterate grandmother, who married at 18 and went on to have 12 children, had a lot going for her besides her marriage. She bought and sold anything she could get her hands on. She had church, choir, and several meeting groups that she was comitted to. She had an extended family that she loved and cared for and vice versa.

My grandfather was a successful man and a very present father, but my grandmother's identity was obviously separate from his. These women with identities that are primarily dependent on their marriages must be very rare because I don't know any of them.

Codependent. Dime a dozen.

Okay, let’s see how independent and unfazed you feel when you husband cheats on you with a woman ten years younger after 20 years together. I’ll wait.

NP here and we're close to the 20-year mark. I'd have an affair (or two) myself and do a prenup to protect the kids' future assets. No kids? I'd flee tomorrow, date A LOT, spend time with my single girlfriends, travel. Definitely not kill someone and/or myself. This is what a sane person would do.

That sounds pretty good. Two affairs! Have you got them picked out?

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Anonymous wrote:^ my ex had a friend like this and so did his married AP. They used them as alibis to cover their tracks. Both egged it in and lived the same lifestyle.

Trash attracts trash friends.

My god, if a married friend ever asked me to provide an alibi/cover for an affair or adulterous sex tryst---that would be the end of the friendship. Trash.

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Anonymous wrote:^ my ex had a friend like this and so did his married AP. They used them as alibis to cover their tracks. Both egged it in and lived the same lifestyle.

Trash attracts trash friends.

My god, if a married friend ever asked me to provide an alibi/cover for an affair or adulterous sex tryst---that would be the end of the friendship. Trash.

+1,000

Who wants to be a part of that mess or friends with such a loser?

I'd say 'sure'...then I'd let the husband know where to be at what time.

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Anonymous wrote:^ my ex had a friend like this and so did his married AP. They used them as alibis to cover their tracks. Both egged it in and lived the same lifestyle.

Trash attracts trash friends.

My god, if a married friend ever asked me to provide an alibi/cover for an affair or adulterous sex tryst---that would be the end of the friendship. Trash.

+1,000

Who wants to be a part of that mess or friends with such a loser?

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Anonymous wrote:^ my ex had a friend like this and so did his married AP. They used them as alibis to cover their tracks. Both egged it in and lived the same lifestyle.

Trash attracts trash friends.

My god, if a married friend ever asked me to provide an alibi/cover for an affair or adulterous sex tryst---that would be the end of the friendship. Trash.

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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

I have no idea what that pp is talking about.

Even my 85 year old illiterate grandmother, who married at 18 and went on to have 12 children, had a lot going for her besides her marriage. She bought and sold anything she could get her hands on. She had church, choir, and several meeting groups that she was comitted to. She had an extended family that she loved and cared for and vice versa.

My grandfather was a successful man and a very present father, but my grandmother's identity was obviously separate from his. These women with identities that are primarily dependent on their marriages must be very rare because I don't know any of them.

Codependent. Dime a dozen.

Okay, let’s see how independent and unfazed you feel when you husband cheats on you with a woman ten years younger after 20 years together. I’ll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

I have no idea what that pp is talking about.

Even my 85 year old illiterate grandmother, who married at 18 and went on to have 12 children, had a lot going for her besides her marriage. She bought and sold anything she could get her hands on. She had church, choir, and several meeting groups that she was comitted to. She had an extended family that she loved and cared for and vice versa.

My grandfather was a successful man and a very present father, but my grandmother's identity was obviously separate from his. These women with identities that are primarily dependent on their marriages must be very rare because I don't know any of them.

Codependent. Dime a dozen.

Okay, let’s see how independent and unfazed you feel when you husband cheats on you with a woman ten years younger after 20 years together. I’ll wait.

NP here and we're close to the 20-year mark. I'd have an affair (or two) myself and do a prenup to protect the kids' future assets. No kids? I'd flee tomorrow, date A LOT, spend time with my single girlfriends, travel. Definitely not kill someone and/or myself. This is what a sane person would do.

Anonymous wrote:^ my ex had a friend like this and so did his married AP. They used them as alibis to cover their tracks. Both egged it in and lived the same lifestyle.

Trash attracts trash friends.

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Anonymous wrote:^ my ex had a friend like this and so did his married AP. They used them as alibis to cover their tracks. Both egged it in and lived the same lifestyle.

Trash attracts trash friends.

My god, if a married friend ever asked me to provide an alibi/cover for an affair or adulterous sex tryst---that would be the end of the friendship. Trash.

Anonymous wrote:^ my ex had a friend like this and so did his married AP. They used them as alibis to cover their tracks. Both egged it in and lived the same lifestyle.

Trash attracts trash friends.