Anonymous
Post 02/03/2018 23:59     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm interested to hear from other top gymnasts and their gymnastics programs. Like Chow- wasn't he known for being much more supportive and empathetic than other gyms? Didn't Shawn Johnson have a more normal upbringing than most? And did they avoid this abuse somehow?


Yeah I’ve been wondering if some of the other top gymnasts haven’t come forward because they don’t want to for whatever reason or if they actually weren’t abused. I’m not sure if anyone from Chow’s gym or WOGA has come forward? Abusers sometimes prey on the most vulnerable, and you could see him targeting gymnasts like Mattie Larson, McKayla Maroney, and Jordyn Weiber for instance in part because they had really mean coaches (and part of his schtick was playing the “good” guy). But then I always got the impression that Simone Biles had a really stable coaching situation and family, so who knows.


This is purely speculation, but I wonder if he got “bolder” over time. As in, starting off with lower profile gymnasts and then progressively targeting more of the National team members. The majority of the gymnasts from the 2012 and 2016 games have now come forward, the only Olympian prior to that was Jamie Dantzscher (I think). Of course, just because someone hasn’t come forward doesn’t necessarily mean they werent victims, but some like Shawn and Nastia have said that they weren’t.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2018 20:57     Subject: Re:US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the big gymnastics fans from earlier in the thread. I just wanted to let you all know that there’s a pretty active online gymnastics forum called wwgym if you all are interested in discussing this on a gym-specific site.

Thank you. Would love to see abuse conversation, but I need to register, yes?


Yes but there are benefits to that- less sock puppeting, for instance!


Yes you need to register! If you follow NCAA gym there is a facebook group for that as well which has been discussing this extensively.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2018 16:24     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal today:
“The U.S. Olympic Committee didn’t intervene in USA Gymnastics’ handling of sexual-abuse allegations against longtime national-team doctor Larry Nassar in 2015, even after USA Gymnastics’ then-president told two top USOC executives that an internal investigation had uncovered possible criminal behavior by the doctor against Olympic athletes.
The communications—a July 2015 phone call and a September 2015 email described to The Wall Street Journal by people familiar with the matter—shed new light on the Olympic Committee’s knowledge of a scandal that has since engulfed American gymnastics.
The interactions also raise questions about why officials at USOC, which oversees USA Gymnastics and has criticized that organization’s response to the Nassar scandal, didn’t reach out to athletes, law enforcement or Dr. Nassar’s other employers in the year before allegations against him became public in September 2016.
During that yearlong period, a federal investigation into the matter languished, and Dr. Nassar continued to see—and allegedly abuse—patients in Michigan.”


We got a panicky e mail from USAG a little after that asking parents and athletes to come forward if there has been any improper behavior by any coach. I reported a coach that I though had a drinking problem. We got no response at all. They are still a mess.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2018 11:36     Subject: Re:US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the big gymnastics fans from earlier in the thread. I just wanted to let you all know that there’s a pretty active online gymnastics forum called wwgym if you all are interested in discussing this on a gym-specific site.

Thank you. Would love to see abuse conversation, but I need to register, yes?


Yes but there are benefits to that- less sock puppeting, for instance!
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2018 11:29     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people ignored all the allegations.


Sounds like most didn’t want to get involved; same way at my employer where you will be ostracized if you open your mouth and complain
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2018 07:57     Subject: Re:US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the big gymnastics fans from earlier in the thread. I just wanted to let you all know that there’s a pretty active online gymnastics forum called wwgym if you all are interested in discussing this on a gym-specific site.

Thank you. Would love to see abuse conversation, but I need to register, yes?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2018 23:16     Subject: Re:US women's gymnastics...
I’m one of the big gymnastics fans from earlier in the thread. I just wanted to let you all know that there’s a pretty active online gymnastics forum called wwgym if you all are interested in discussing this on a gym-specific site.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2018 21:37     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe how many people ignored all the allegations.

The selfish lazy bitches and bastards need to be held accountable. every. single. one.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2018 16:11     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
I cannot believe how many people ignored all the allegations.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2018 16:05     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
And now, Valeri Liukin resigns....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2018/02/02/valeri-liukin-resigning-role-u-s-womens-gymnastics-team/301243002/
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2018 12:20     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
How will this scandal impact the upcoming Olympics? I for one will wonder how each athlete may have been abused or assaulted, just to get to the Olympics.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2018 20:47     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/us/msu-amanda-thomashow-complaint-larry-nassar/index.html

Amanda filed a complaint in 2014 against Nassar. MSU did nothing.

Michigan State University is complete shit.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2018 14:37     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
Anonymous wrote:Burn the USOC to the ground, salt the earth and start over with all new people. It's a corrupt shit show run to make executives wealthy and will continue to be that, but at least the new people won't be complicit in this abuse.

Agree that the US Olympic Committee needs to get burned to the ground. It's a corrupted shit show is exactly right. They've taken advantage of the young athletes in the worst possible ways, just to satisfy their own selfish greed.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2018 14:26     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
Burn the USOC to the ground, salt the earth and start over with all new people. It's a corrupt shit show run to make executives wealthy and will continue to be that, but at least the new people won't be complicit in this abuse.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2018 14:24     Subject: US women's gymnastics...
Wall Street Journal today:
“The U.S. Olympic Committee didn’t intervene in USA Gymnastics’ handling of sexual-abuse allegations against longtime national-team doctor Larry Nassar in 2015, even after USA Gymnastics’ then-president told two top USOC executives that an internal investigation had uncovered possible criminal behavior by the doctor against Olympic athletes.
The communications—a July 2015 phone call and a September 2015 email described to The Wall Street Journal by people familiar with the matter—shed new light on the Olympic Committee’s knowledge of a scandal that has since engulfed American gymnastics.
The interactions also raise questions about why officials at USOC, which oversees USA Gymnastics and has criticized that organization’s response to the Nassar scandal, didn’t reach out to athletes, law enforcement or Dr. Nassar’s other employers in the year before allegations against him became public in September 2016.
During that yearlong period, a federal investigation into the matter languished, and Dr. Nassar continued to see—and allegedly abuse—patients in Michigan.”