Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:53
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the GOP statements of "this is very disturbing" OR "I find this troubling." All I hear are crickets.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341460-graham-trump-jr-emails-disturbing-and-very-problematic
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-another-shoe-needs-to-be-pursued
Where are the GOP actual actions?
GOP has no political points to gain by taking action. It'll just detract them from the healthcare bill agenda that is on deck.
At this point, the GOP NEEDS to detract from the healthcare bill. Wildly unpopular, even among the GOP, and going nowhere. They should be eager to change the subject.
They might be grateful to change the subject from Russia to the health care bill...?
They ought to be thinking about proving they can govern. Healthcare has been a train wreck that they can't seem to clear off the tracks. Nothing has happened on tax reform or debt limit or a budget. Don't see how they can also get away with ignoring this. At some point, even the base is going to start wondering how they can control all the branches and not move any policy forward. This distraction is not going away and they need to get a grip and clean it up.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:52
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
https://twitter.com/ProPublica/status/884607765150355457
Reince was likely at this meeting as well, or listening in.
Reince was likely at this meeting as well, or listening in.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:52
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
If the info would incriminate Clinton, wouldn't this simply be a move by Russia to keep a criminal out of the White House? Sounds like positive political behavior to me.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:50
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:still a nothing burger. at most just a slice of lettuce in it. pass!
A nothing burger is made from a Mos-Cow.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:50
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This family is seriously made of Teflon.
In business, yes. A whole lot on money to spend on lawyers will do that. But government doesn't works that way. Money still talks. But, in government, you can't just do whatever the f--k pops into your head, and write a check if things go badly.
You can't do that in business either. WTF are you talking about?!?! Oh, I'm sorry, I mean some do and think they are getting away with it.
I see you.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:45
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Odd timing to do this announcement during Dad's big trip.
This. And these fake claims will keep coming. Americans will ignore those who will not let our elected officials take the necessary steps to save our Republic.
I think you all ought to take a moment to search FEC records yourselves. I mean it.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:45
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Need a DCUM prediction: when do we get thee Trump tweet about how. Donny was right and this is HRC and Obama's fault (because emails or Benghazi or a crime having to do with Russia that has never been shown?). This afternoon? Tomorrow am's toilet time? Or does he STFU and stay off Twitter. (That last one is a joke. We all know the tweet is coming...).
So, DCUM, place your bets now on tTrump tweet time. I say 6:30 tomorrow am. Needs some time to watch Fox and Friends.
Actually, I wonder...do you think Putin is currently creating some kind of incriminating evidence against Hillary to show that there's some truth to the story?
It doesn't matter. Even if it is proven that HRC did whatever in the library with the candlestick, takinnga meeting with a foreign government Rep to get this info is still a crime. "But HRC was guilty" is not a defense. She could end up with her own legal problems if she did something wrong. But it does not get Uday (I like that, but then who is Jared?) out of this clusterf*ck.
Which crime? Taking for money is prohibited by election laws, but what crime is it to take info?
The crime is soliciting or accepting something of value. The law is not just about actual cash.
There is no indication of solicitation. Even under the broad definition of "solicitation" propounded by the FEC. What was accepted?
I am sure there are plenty of other crimes committed elsewhere, like failing to disclose this meeting in the first place. The prohibition on private diplomacy. Etc. But hearing about proffered information? that apparently never materialized . . . .
At least one expert disagrees with your analysis:
http://electionlawblog.org/?p=93740
Your expert got ahead of him/herself. In the article the author notes that a "solicitation" means to ask or request. Then they specifically go on to note that the information was offered. Offer and ask are not synonyms.
But the facts have now changed. The Russian lawyer says Trump approached them with the request. So I call and raise you one.
You are raising me anything. The fact that someone wants a position supported doesn't make them a Trumpster. If additional info comes out that Trump (or his minions) solicited it, fine. Prosecute for that too. I simply pointed out that your expert didn't support his own arguments. And, in fact, contradicted them. That's not how you make a case.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:44
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:This family is seriously made of Teflon.
In business, yes. A whole lot on money to spend on lawyers will do that. But government doesn't works that way. Money still talks. But, in government, you can't just do whatever the f--k pops into your head, and write a check if things go badly.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:43
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the GOP statements of "this is very disturbing" OR "I find this troubling." All I hear are crickets.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341460-graham-trump-jr-emails-disturbing-and-very-problematic
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-another-shoe-needs-to-be-pursued
Where are the GOP actual actions?
GOP has no political points to gain by taking action. It'll just detract them from the healthcare bill agenda that is on deck.
At this point, the GOP NEEDS to detract from the healthcare bill. Wildly unpopular, even among the GOP, and going nowhere. They should be eager to change the subject.
They might be grateful to change the subject from Russia to the health care bill...?
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:43
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:This family is seriously made of Teflon.
For all the Teflon pans I bought (and I eventually stopped buying them), the Teflon wore off, sooner or later. Sooner would be good, here. In fact, right now would be good.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:42
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the GOP statements of "this is very disturbing" OR "I find this troubling." All I hear are crickets.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341460-graham-trump-jr-emails-disturbing-and-very-problematic
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-another-shoe-needs-to-be-pursued
Where are the GOP actual actions?
GOP has no political points to gain by taking action. It'll just detract them from the healthcare bill agenda that is on deck.
At this point, the GOP NEEDS to detract from the healthcare bill. Wildly unpopular, even among the GOP, and going nowhere. They should be eager to change the subject.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:42
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Need a DCUM prediction: when do we get thee Trump tweet about how. Donny was right and this is HRC and Obama's fault (because emails or Benghazi or a crime having to do with Russia that has never been shown?). This afternoon? Tomorrow am's toilet time? Or does he STFU and stay off Twitter. (That last one is a joke. We all know the tweet is coming...).
So, DCUM, place your bets now on tTrump tweet time. I say 6:30 tomorrow am. Needs some time to watch Fox and Friends.
Actually, I wonder...do you think Putin is currently creating some kind of incriminating evidence against Hillary to show that there's some truth to the story?
It doesn't matter. Even if it is proven that HRC did whatever in the library with the candlestick, takinnga meeting with a foreign government Rep to get this info is still a crime. "But HRC was guilty" is not a defense. She could end up with her own legal problems if she did something wrong. But it does not get Uday (I like that, but then who is Jared?) out of this clusterf*ck.
Which crime? Taking for money is prohibited by election laws, but what crime is it to take info?
The crime is soliciting or accepting something of value. The law is not just about actual cash.
There is no indication of solicitation. Even under the broad definition of "solicitation" propounded by the FEC. What was accepted?
I am sure there are plenty of other crimes committed elsewhere, like failing to disclose this meeting in the first place. The prohibition on private diplomacy. Etc. But hearing about proffered information? that apparently never materialized . . . .
At least one expert disagrees with your analysis:
http://electionlawblog.org/?p=93740
Your expert got ahead of him/herself. In the article the author notes that a "solicitation" means to ask or request. Then they specifically go on to note that the information was offered. Offer and ask are not synonyms.
But the facts have now changed. The Russian lawyer says Trump approached them with the request. So I call and raise you one.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:42
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the GOP statements of "this is very disturbing" OR "I find this troubling." All I hear are crickets.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341460-graham-trump-jr-emails-disturbing-and-very-problematic
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-another-shoe-needs-to-be-pursued
Where are the GOP actual actions?
PP only asked about statements.
OK. Now I'm asking about actions.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:41
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the GOP statements of "this is very disturbing" OR "I find this troubling." All I hear are crickets.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341460-graham-trump-jr-emails-disturbing-and-very-problematic
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-another-shoe-needs-to-be-pursued
Where are the GOP actual actions?
PP only asked about statements.
Anonymous
07/11/2017 13:40
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
This family is seriously made of Teflon.