Anonymous
Post 05/02/2017 09:03     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
Do I need to inform the school if I'm going to appeal for aap?
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2017 16:12     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi

We had moved from loudoun county to fairfax county last year. We are appealing with last year COGAT scores. Her Composite is 136.

Also, we are planning for WISC V next week. Will the fairfax county accept last year COGAT results ?

Please Let us know.


Was the test within one year?


Does that matter? I know someone who parent referred with the previous year's test scores and new GBRS, no new test scores.


We had discussion with the AAP teacher today and she asked us to submit the last year COGAT results =136 composite. and also she has done WISC and waiting for results. But her GBRS 6 is very very low. She was getting all 3's and 4's on her progress card . I just dont understand how the GBRS was 6.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2017 16:10     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi

We had moved from loudoun county to fairfax county last year. We are appealing with last year COGAT scores. Her Composite is 136.

Also, we are planning for WISC V next week. Will the fairfax county accept last year COGAT results ?

Please Let us know.


Was the test within one year?


Does that matter? I know someone who parent referred with the previous year's test scores and new GBRS, no new test scores.


We had discussion with the AAP teacher today and she asked us to submit the last year COGAT results =136 composite. and also she has done WISC and waiting for results. But her GBRS is very very low.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2017 15:52     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC took WISC V today. Here are the scores:

Verbal comprehension- 133(IQ); 99(percentile)
Visual spatial - 132; 98
Fluid reasoning. - 132; 98
Working memory. - 110; 75
Processing speed. - 100; 50

Full scale - 130; 98 percentile

NNAT - 90 percentile
Cogat - 128 (95 percentile)
GBRS is low - 8

The psychologist was optimistic and told us DC needs challenging atmosphere and said let's not think too much about GBRS.



WISC looks good. Did the pychologist write down the assessment or was it verbal?


She printed on a sheet. The detailed report will be sent by email and by mail.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2017 15:50     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:Just got my DS's wish v result, do you think he can get into the aap, I'm think to appeal for him.

FSIQ :139, 99.5%
GAI : 144, 99.8%
VCI : 146, 99.9%
VSI : 132, 98%
FRI : 137, 99%
WMI : 112, 79%
PSI : 108, 70%

Because he has low score on NNAT and Cogat, both are 123 and low GBRS, which is 8.



That's a very brilliant score. Your DC will get into AAP
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2017 14:44     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
Just got my DS's wish v result, do you think he can get into the aap, I'm think to appeal for him.

FSIQ :139, 99.5%
GAI : 144, 99.8%
VCI : 146, 99.9%
VSI : 132, 98%
FRI : 137, 99%
WMI : 112, 79%
PSI : 108, 70%

Because he has low score on NNAT and Cogat, both are 123 and low GBRS, which is 8.

Anonymous
Post 05/01/2017 14:41     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:DC took WISC V today. Here are the scores:

Verbal comprehension- 133(IQ); 99(percentile)
Visual spatial - 132; 98
Fluid reasoning. - 132; 98
Working memory. - 110; 75
Processing speed. - 100; 50

Full scale - 130; 98 percentile

NNAT - 90 percentile
Cogat - 128 (95 percentile)
GBRS is low - 8

The psychologist was optimistic and told us DC needs challenging atmosphere and said let's not think too much about GBRS.



WISC looks good. Did the pychologist write down the assessment or was it verbal?
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2017 14:36     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:DC took WISC V today. Here are the scores:

Verbal comprehension- 133(IQ); 99(percentile)
Visual spatial - 132; 98
Fluid reasoning. - 132; 98
Working memory. - 110; 75
Processing speed. - 100; 50

Full scale - 130; 98 percentile

NNAT - 90 percentile
Cogat - 128 (95 percentile)
GBRS is low - 8

The psychologist was optimistic and told us DC needs challenging atmosphere and said let's not think too much about GBRS.




Good luck PP, very good score, should get positive result from committee.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2017 14:04     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
DC took WISC V today. Here are the scores:

Verbal comprehension- 133(IQ); 99(percentile)
Visual spatial - 132; 98
Fluid reasoning. - 132; 98
Working memory. - 110; 75
Processing speed. - 100; 50

Full scale - 130; 98 percentile

NNAT - 90 percentile
Cogat - 128 (95 percentile)
GBRS is low - 8

The psychologist was optimistic and told us DC needs challenging atmosphere and said let's not think too much about GBRS.


Anonymous
Post 04/29/2017 19:53     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just now seeing that there is a forum for AAP. We received a letter that our daughter was admitted to Level IV at Stratford Landing. 22308. We just got home from the orientation. Our school is a center, so she won't have to switch.

I have no idea what her scores were, and frankly, was clueless about AAP. She did receive all 4s, two 3s on the report card we just received. Now I realize what a big deal it is.

I suck as a parent. I seriously had no idea about AAP or how it worked.


But I didn't make a difference, right? Go easy on yourself


This seems kind of suspect. First, you had to know your child received first and second grade testing. You never thought to find out what it was about? Second, there are announcements EVERYWHERE (school's PTA weekly newsletter, principal's newsletter, etc.) re: the AAP spiel from the AART. Third, if your child had high scores, you had to receive a letter saying your child was in the pool. I don't buy this at all...


I am the poster. Trust me, I do suck as a parent. I didn't investigate what the scores meant, and we didn't receive a letter saying our child was in a pool. I have a special needs younger, and a lot of our energy has been focused on that child. We are really happy that she is full time AAP, and will step up our game. I don't read the PTA news, etc. with the diligence I should.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2017 13:06     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:exactly ! with the 2 similar scores of different ability test one cannot assess the wisc score how in the world can GBRS rating of a teacher in one class can access the hypothetical future of kids performance in next grade levels with out introducing them into Advance academics program?? If teacher in one grade do not identify the potential of the child its not the end of the world. No body is forcing you to reply here with your weird posts...

No, not "exactly!", you completely missed the point. The current evidence, two test scores and GBRS, put your the kid in the not eligible pool for the AAP. The fact that the test scores are similar is actually a point against either of of them being "wrong". You asked whether or not a WISC would help your appeal, and the answer is that it depends on the WISC score, which no one here knows.

That's a different question than the unrelated tangent of not being able to assess kids' abilities to do AAP without putting them in AAP, which I also don't agree with. The combination of test scores, GBRS, parent submissions, and work samples give a pretty well-rounded picture of the student. And the fact that parents can appeal ineligibility findings by submitting additional data gives plenty of opportunity to place the kids most likely to succeed in AAP. Does the process miss sometimes? Sure, in both directions -- kids get placed that shouldn't be there, kids that could make it are found ineligible. You can also reapply pretty much every single year to have the kid in AAP, so maybe AAP as a 3rd grader isn't a fit, but the kid has a maturity-spurt in 3rd or 4th and is better suited in a higher grade. AAP goes through 8th grade. It's not 3rd grade or bust. At our orientation, there was a kid who's been in gen ed with my kid for two years and is moving into AAP as a fifth grader because it's the right fit for them now.

And I don't really think I'm the one posting weirdly. Your comments don't make sense grammatically or logically. You sound very bot-ish, actually.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2017 12:34     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
exactly ! with the 2 similar scores of different ability test one cannot assess the wisc score how in the world can GBRS rating of a teacher in one class can access the hypothetical future of kids performance in next grade levels with out introducing them into Advance academics program?? If teacher in one grade do not identify the potential of the child its not the end of the world. No body is forcing you to reply here with your weird posts...
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2017 09:11     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
How can anyone assess your chances on some hypothetical future WISC score? The posted NNAT, CogAt, and GBRS sound like a long-shot, so a lot would ride on the actual WISC score, not just that it was being taken. What a weird post. And they're not holding a kid back by not accepting him/her to full-time, L4 AAP.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2017 00:35     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: DC had NNAT 95% age Rank
and Cogat 95% age rank 127 composite
GBRS 9

what are the chances that my kid might selected to AAP program if I appeal with WISC score which he is about to take one very soon. He was not in pool with that scores. His teacher always told me that he raises his hand and answer the questions and his answers are always "correct" and she gave a GBRS of 9 is really surprising.I dint include work samples and I included one recommendation letter and certificates during parents referral.


If he always answers correctly, that doesn't show higher level thinking. That's what they are looking for.



AAP is not a GT program anymore, it is Advance academic program . If kids are smart enough to deal with advance academics then whats the point in holding them back?? why So many kids are joining enrichment programs like Kumon , Aloha etc if general education is challenging enough and it is too early to decide on kids...

My question was about something else ...If u don't have any idea about it then that is absolutely fine.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2017 23:34     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
U can appeal and there is no harm with it. Chances are high with those scores and if your child dint get in with low gbrs etc , wisc score will be helpful .