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Anonymous wrote:Clearly judging from this post people have a different interpretation of what "No Swimming" means. I think the signs should be clearer, especially for people who have no idea about Florida's wildlife.

Hey, it's your limbs, your life. Rather than quibble over what the sign should say, how about use common sense?

Who, with enough money to visit Disney, is unaware of Florida's wildlife? I can't believe we're debating this point.

That's not how it works, sweetie.

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Anonymous wrote:How dumb are these parents? Who in the United States doesn't know that ANY body of water in FL (besides the ocean), no matter how pretty or inviting it may seem likely has gators and/or venomous things. I love that we're splitting hairs between swimming and wading, when this child shouldn't have been touching water, period. Even if the signs don't say it - why risk it?

Wonder how close the dad was to the kid - bc I would think a dad standing right there could grab the kid under the armpits end pull hard enough to pull him out. Though I guess that also depends on the gators grip.

Sad but I don't want to see Disney paying out huge sums here.

Okay, for one thing, if you believe that every single person in the US is aware of the dangers of alligators in Florida, you are a moron. Full stop.

Secondly, even if this kid was standing 12 inches away, not touching the water, the alligator still could have gotten him.

Really? I would wager that people who don't know about gators in Florida are the idiots.

Yes, I know that you would wager that. Because you don't know shit about how the world works.

We're not talking about the world. We're talking about the US. And if the US school system hasn't taught families well off enough to visit Disney that there are gators in Florida, they're morons.

I am highly educated. I live in New England and visit beaches nearly every day. I am aware that alligators live in Florida, and specifically in the Everglades. I would never dream that there are alligators at the shoreline of a Disney advertised "white sands" beach where families are encouraged to play and watch fireworks. Absent signage saying "No Wading" due to bacteria, alligators, whatever, my 2 year old would certainly have been allowed to go in the water up to his ankles as I stood nearby.

There but by the grace of God go I. Just horrifying.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is negligence. In Florida, in water, AT NIGHT. A disaster waiting to happen.

Negligence on Disney's part? Or the parents?

Disney

For having a family beach area with activities at night-time at a dangerous spot.

Anonymous wrote:People blame the parents because they are in denial. They want to feel in control of everything in their lives and don't want to believe that something so horrible can happen in very normal and common circumstances. They don't know how to process that. So instead they make it seem like the parents could have prevented it.

I get it, guys. It's hard to accept that we're helpless sometimes. But your words are very cruel toward those parents experiencing the worst kind of grief. Please think before you lash out at the parents. What if they saw what you wrote?

Anonymous wrote:People blame the parents because they are in denial. They want to feel in control of everything in their lives and don't want to believe that something so horrible can happen in very normal and common circumstances. They don't know how to process that. So instead they make it seem like the parents could have prevented it.

I get it, guys. It's hard to accept that we're helpless sometimes. But your words are very cruel toward those parents experiencing the worst kind of grief. Please think before you lash out at the parents. What if they saw what you wrote?

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Anonymous wrote:How dumb are these parents? Who in the United States doesn't know that ANY body of water in FL (besides the ocean), no matter how pretty or inviting it may seem likely has gators and/or venomous things. I love that we're splitting hairs between swimming and wading, when this child shouldn't have been touching water, period. Even if the signs don't say it - why risk it?

Wonder how close the dad was to the kid - bc I would think a dad standing right there could grab the kid under the armpits end pull hard enough to pull him out. Though I guess that also depends on the gators grip.

Sad but I don't want to see Disney paying out huge sums here.

Okay, for one thing, if you believe that every single person in the US is aware of the dangers of alligators in Florida, you are a moron. Full stop.

Secondly, even if this kid was standing 12 inches away, not touching the water, the alligator still could have gotten him.

Really? I would wager that people who don't know about gators in Florida are the idiots.

Yes, I know that you would wager that. Because you don't know shit about how the world works.

We're not talking about the world. We're talking about the US. And if the US school system hasn't taught families well off enough to visit Disney that there are gators in Florida, they're morons.

I am highly educated. I live in New England and visit beaches nearly every day. I am aware that alligators live in Florida, and specifically in the Everglades. I would never dream that there are alligators at the shoreline of a Disney advertised "white sands" beach where families are encouraged to play and watch fireworks. Absent signage saying "No Wading" due to bacteria, alligators, whatever, my 2 year old would certainly have been allowed to go in the water up to his ankles as I stood nearby.

There but by the grace of God go I. Just horrifying.

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Anonymous wrote:We're still going in July, taking our two girls.

+1 we are still going too in July. Taking my 4yo.

I feel sorry for people who fall for the Disney hype. Take your children to a place where they can see real nature and not the fakery of Disney. .

Save your pity for yourself and other judgmental a-holes like you. My family loves Disney! We go every other year and still plan to do so.

I have no desire to judge anyone else's vacation choices.

Well, to be fair, you probably don't know enough about them to judge. Here's a tip - Japan is not next to Morocco.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is negligence. In Florida, in water, AT NIGHT. A disaster waiting to happen.

Negligence on Disney's part? Or the parents?

Disney's fault! They created the circumstances to get families on those beaches at night.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly judging from this post people have a different interpretation of what "No Swimming" means. I think the signs should be clearer, especially for people who have no idea about Florida's wildlife.

Hey, it's your limbs, your life. Rather than quibble over what the sign should say, how about use common sense?

Who, with enough money to visit Disney, is unaware of Florida's wildlife? I can't believe we're debating this point.

Anonymous wrote:I always thought those lagoon beaches were gross. Why would you set up a beach for kids to run around on next to an alligator infested lagoon. The Disney "illusion" is that all is safe. There are no warnings about alligators.

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Anonymous wrote:How dumb are these parents? Who in the United States doesn't know that ANY body of water in FL (besides the ocean), no matter how pretty or inviting it may seem likely has gators and/or venomous things. I love that we're splitting hairs between swimming and wading, when this child shouldn't have been touching water, period. Even if the signs don't say it - why risk it?

Wonder how close the dad was to the kid - bc I would think a dad standing right there could grab the kid under the armpits end pull hard enough to pull him out. Though I guess that also depends on the gators grip.

Sad but I don't want to see Disney paying out huge sums here.

Okay, for one thing, if you believe that every single person in the US is aware of the dangers of alligators in Florida, you are a moron. Full stop.

Secondly, even if this kid was standing 12 inches away, not touching the water, the alligator still could have gotten him.

Really? I would wager that people who don't know about gators in Florida are the idiots.

Yes, I know that you would wager that. Because you don't know shit about how the world works.

We're not talking about the world. We're talking about the US. And if the US school system hasn't taught families well off enough to visit Disney that there are gators in Florida, they're morons.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this is negligence. In Florida, in water, AT NIGHT. A disaster waiting to happen.

Negligence on Disney's part? Or the parents?

Anonymous wrote:All those millions of small kids each year running around those lagoon beaches at night watching fireworks and Disney did not see the huge liability it was. Not the parents fault at all. Disney created the circumstances for this to easily happen. Stop blaming the parents!