Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 20:24     Subject: Re:Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Anonymous wrote:Women still can't vote in Saudi Arabia, although they will be able to vote next year.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/saudi-arabia-women-vote/

Please! Woman! Stop buying into the "Saudi Arabia is reforming" PR machine.

Women have the right to run in MUNICIPAL elections that mean absolutely nothing. Appointments to the Shoura Council, mwahahah, I'll have you know this august body is known derisively as the Shourba Council (soup committee). It's an advisory committee whose powers extend to being able to fart as loudly as they desire. They don't make laws. They don't vote for squat. Power in KSA belongs exclusively to the Al-Saud.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 20:22     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia has a timeline of women's suffrage in Muslim countries.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_first_women's_suffrage_in_majority-Muslim_countries

Oops, nothing before 1900. Some as late as the 2000s.

Who said something about lying?


Too bad Wikipedia wasn't there to count the ballots 1400 years ago


Ha!

1400 years ago:

Muslim leader #1, Mr. Abu Bakr: took office under greatly disputable circumstances.

Muslim leader #2, Mr. Umar: appointed by Mr. Abu Bakr in his will

Muslim leader #3, Mr. Uthman: appointed by the committee of six men who divided preferences between him and Mr. Ali

Muslim leader #4, Mr. Ali: appointed amid tribal conflicts from a list of three

Muslim leader #5, Mr. Muawiyah: appointed himself and since he had the most guns, it stood.

Etc. etc. Voting rights for Muslim women 1400 years ago...blah blah yawn yawn..
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 20:19     Subject: Re:Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Women still can't vote in Saudi Arabia, although they will be able to vote next year.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/saudi-arabia-women-vote/
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 19:51     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia has a timeline of women's suffrage in Muslim countries.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_first_women's_suffrage_in_majority-Muslim_countries

Oops, nothing before 1900. Some as late as the 2000s.

Who said something about lying?


Too bad Wikipedia wasn't there to count the ballots 1400 years ago


I really, really hope you're joking. If you're not joking, then you're scaring me.
Muslima
Post 10/08/2014 19:08     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia has a timeline of women's suffrage in Muslim countries.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_first_women's_suffrage_in_majority-Muslim_countries

Oops, nothing before 1900. Some as late as the 2000s.

Who said something about lying?


Too bad Wikipedia wasn't there to count the ballots 1400 years ago
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 19:08     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia has a timeline of women's suffrage in Muslim countries.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_first_women's_suffrage_in_majority-Muslim_countries

Oops, nothing before 1900. Some as late as the 2000s.

Who said something about lying?


Also, the earliest (Albania, Azerbaijan) were actually Communist at the time. The earliest non-Communist, majority Muslim state to give voting rights to women was secularizing Turkey in 1930, followed by the Maldives in 1932.

Still want to defend your claim that Islam gave voting rights to women 1400 years ago, Muslima? Or even that a Muslim states granted voting rights to women earlier than Western countries?
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 19:02     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Wikipedia has a timeline of women's suffrage in Muslim countries.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_first_women's_suffrage_in_majority-Muslim_countries

Oops, nothing before 1900. Some as late as the 2000s.

Who said something about lying?
Muslima
Post 10/08/2014 18:42     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCUM needs to upgrade its Muslims. I'd actually enjoy talking with Muslim posters who were capable of saying, "yes, Islam is different from the West, let me list the ABC ways, but I prefer the Islamic system for XYZ reasons."

Instead, we get these two reactionary fools. They make up total BS (aforesaid granting of voting rights to women 1400 years ago) and then they get all pissy and ugly when challenged to provide evidence.


2 bad you've been downgraded. Welcome to DCU-Muslims 2014


How much do the Saudi's pay you?

You know the money has to stop to stop the Wahabbism extremists.



A lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Are you looking for a job? i need an assistant......
Muslima
Post 10/08/2014 18:41     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, these are your choices.

1. Provide proof for your claim that Islam gave women the vote 1400 years ago.
2. Admit you misspoke.
3. Accept that everone will assume you lied.
4.Allow you to live in your ignorance, you deserve it
Your choice.


Here i corrected it for you. Really, I don't want to enlighten you. Everyone will assume i lied, ooohhhhh, let me go hide
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 18:03     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
C'mon. If I were a Wahabbi paying Muslima and that other twit to represent my religion, I would have fired them weeks ago.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 17:56     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:

You?? The Equality Poster again???? Muslim women and Men are Equal, let me repeat again, we are Equal. I've said it again more than twice, maybe we need 20 more pages to get you to understand what Equality means . While men and women have equal rights in Islam, the specific rights and responsibilities granted to them are not identical, nobody ever said they were. Men and women have complementary rights and responsibilities.And don't you dare telling me you have the monopoly on what equality is Western equality you say??? Do I need to remind you that it is the very lack of equality in the WEST, of women's Rights that birthed the feminist movement? Just a few years ago , yeh years, not centuries, Women did not have the right to vote in the US. They got that right in 1920 after fighting tooth and nails, a right that was granted to Muslim women like 1400 years ago. Women in the West did not have the right to own property, only their husbands could The women had to struggle, a lot in the West for acquiring these rights, which Islam had given to them centuries ago. Oh and women still struggle for equal pay So don't tell me about western equality as the de facto notion of women's equality. Puh-Leezzzz


Provide proof of Muslim women voting 1400 years ago. Actually, provide proof of anybody Muslim voting 1400 years ago. The majority of Muslim rulers throughout history have not been selected by voting, whether by males or females.

You need a dictionary to tell you what "equal" means. It doesn't mean what you think it does.


Google it, I don't have time to educate you. Or go to the library, turn left and look under "History of World Religions". If you can't go that far, ask the nice ladies at the front desk, they will be happy to show you what section you need to look under. Then, wear your glasses, sit down, take a long breath and start reading..... The so-called Muslim countries have had like what, over 8 Muslim women as Female head of states, and America is still waiting for Hillary so we can make history in 2014


Muslima has posted over 600 messages.

I have yet to see a message that provides a practical way to stop the Wahabbism extremists.

From reading her posts and other Muslim posters on DCUM, the Islamic Extremist violence is from the West not understanding Islam. If only we were different, the problem would go away.

Do you support Wahabbism being financed and exported to the West?

Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 17:56     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Ok PP, let's not give these two fools the excuse they want to switch the subject to Islamophobia. At least not before Muslima provides the proof everyone's been asking her for.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 17:52     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
It's old news. It's common knowledge KSA funnels millions of dollars into Islamic centers that spread Wahhabi Islam worldwide.

What's less well known but should bother you no less, is that KSA funnels even more money into academic endowments, payments to Western think tanks and consultancies to former U.S. officials that make them public supporters of Saudi policies for life. This is how you learned to swallow tropes like:

"The Saudi King is the reformer but the public is so conservative that he cannot do what he's aching to do."

"These laws are a part of ancient culture to which we need to be sensitive."
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 17:45     Subject: Re:Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Old info but SA has gone undercover now

According to Schwartz's testimony before the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security on Thursday, June 26, 2003, the official Saudi government website stated in 2000, "In the United States, the Kingdom has contributed to the establishment of the Islamic Center in Washington, D.C.; the Omer Bin Al-Khattab Mosque in western Los Angeles, the Los Angeles Islamic Center, and the Fresno Mosque in California; the Islamic Center in Denver, Colorado; the Islamic center in Harrison, New York; and the Islamic Center in Northern Virginia."

http://www.meforum.org/916/cair-islamists-fooling-the-establishment
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2014 17:42     Subject: Be Wary of Racism and Islamophobes
Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCUM needs to upgrade its Muslims. I'd actually enjoy talking with Muslim posters who were capable of saying, "yes, Islam is different from the West, let me list the ABC ways, but I prefer the Islamic system for XYZ reasons."

Instead, we get these two reactionary fools. They make up total BS (aforesaid granting of voting rights to women 1400 years ago) and then they get all pissy and ugly when challenged to provide evidence.


2 bad you've been downgraded. Welcome to DCU-Muslims 2014


How much do the Saudi's pay you?

You know the money has to stop to stop the Wahabbism extremists.