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Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.

Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.

I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.

I think African immigrants would be more likely to want to distinguish themselves from the stereotypical black person thug image.

We are from Nigeria and would be very upset if our daughter dated or married the typical American black. We want more for our kids.Many african immigrants would agree. I won't even consider living in an American black community.

I alsn consider an African American someone who actually recently immigrated African. There are really no similarities, even features and skin tone is very different. American blacks have a very uniquely American appearance (and values). In my culture, Nigeria, focusing on your studied is expected. Getting a good job is expected.

A NIGERIAN giving out advice?! Please STFU with your holier than thou attitude. You don't even want to go there...

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I was more sympathetic to the Michael Brown case before it came out that he stole. Yes -- I realize it's unconnected to him being stopped and no I don't believe that the punishment for stealing $40 worth of cigars is being shot. It just demonstrates a thug like manner of living that I just can't be that sympathetic to -- I mean this isn't a case of the kid stealing food to feed his family but cigars --bc he thought it was his right to walk in there and take whatever he wanted.

This makes no sense. You are still saying he deserved to be shot. Just like Trayvon deserved to be shot because he smoked pot, right?

So, it's not okay to shoot someone, but if it turns out that they once shoplifted, then you don't have sympathy for them because they are a thug. What? If his stealing wasn't connected to his being shot, then it wasn't connected. His death isn't less tragic because it turns out he wasn't a perfect child.

"Ferguson, MO is on my mind, and that burning coal of fear I carry with me has been fanned into a roaring fire -- again. I am angry, weepy, weary, sad and very afraid deep in my core.
I do not scare easily. But, this continued killing of young Black men scares me.
I have two sons. One was born the color of coffee with too much cream. Usually, by the end of summer, both him and his sister are a beautiful bronzed, caramel shade. My boy has a killer smile and a soft huge heart. And, my grandson looks like him. Baby Drew is ambiguously brown; his chubby cheeks and dimpled thighs are a molten mocha shade that comes from having a "Mixed" family tree.
I have had the "How To Behave WHEN (not if) You Are Pulled Over By The Police" conversation with my son one too many times. "Keep your hands visible on the steering wheel at 10 and 2". Say "Yes Sir" and "No Sir". ASK before you reach for the registration that is in the glove-box. Etc. Etc. Each time he listened to me. He knows the drill.
That does not lessen my fear. I have been afraid for him, for as long as I have been his mother. Now Mama Carol is afraid for Baby Drew too.
The burning coal of fear I carry within me has once again been fanned into a roaring fire. The tragedy and horror that engulfed the short lives of Darius Simmons, Trayvon Martin, Emmitt Till, Jordan Davis, Michael Dunn and so many more young men of color ... physically hurts me. I feel battered and bruised.
But ...somehow that hurt and fear have not eclipsed the other fire I carry within me. The twin flames of Faith and Hope still burn brightly inside me. They have not gone out.
But … Dear Ones, they are dimmer today. Today, both are dimmer.

-Carol Thomas Cissel, Interim Minister, TUS - The Unitarian Society of East Brunswick, NJ"

If you want to know what ONE AA is telling kids:

http://m.xojane.com/issues/i-dont-know-how-to-talk-to-white-people-about-ferguson

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Not criticizing, just asking. Believe me I want nothing to do with the AA community -- and based on the amount of excuse making we've seen on this thread alone, they are ALWAYS the victim and always have an excuse for why they can't get ahead because they just can't accept the fact that maybe it's their own attitudes and actions.

As a member of the white community -- me, Sarah Palin, Woody Allen, Charles Manson, Bill Gates, Lady Gaga, and Bryce Hanson, all hanging out together, having the same opinions and tastes about everything -- I always find it remarkably ignorant when people talk about why the "black community" can't get ahead.

There should be a service that matches black people up to people who will tell us how we're doing things wrong. We'll call it The Internet.

Anonymous wrote:Simple ass Saltines teaching their kids to shoot up schools and sexually abuse children and build homemade bombs and slit their own wrists and shit - fuck kinda parenting is y'all doing?

white person pretending to be black

I smell a troll.

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We are from Nigeria and would be very upset if our daughter dated or married the typical American black. We want more for our kids.Many african immigrants would agree. I won't even consider living in an American black community.

I alsn consider an African American someone who actually recently immigrated African. There are really no similarities, even features and skin tone is very different. American blacks have a very uniquely American appearance (and values). In my culture, Nigeria, focusing on your studied is expected. Getting a good job is expected.

Thank you for writing this.

This is exactly what students have told me when I've questioned why the cafeteria is so segregated. I have a good friend from Uganda who's now a doctor; he shares the same sentiment. .

So the "black community" clearly is NOT monolithic. And neither is the "white community." for that matter. As someone who's first generation, I have values from two different communities" and close ties to another country.

To the first poster -- if you don't want your kid marrying AA and you consider as AA someone who actually recently immigrated -- what does that leave for your DD? Do you mean that you'll want her to marry a man who comes here from Nigeria after the wedding? Is your DD being raised in the U.S? After 2 decades of being raised in the U.S., won't she pick up some American values such that she'll have less in common with a Nigerian from Nigeria (as opposed to a Nigerian-Am)?

Not criticizing, just asking. Believe me I want nothing to do with the AA community -- and based on the amount of excuse making we've seen on this thread alone, they are ALWAYS the victim and always have an excuse for why they can't get ahead because they just can't accept the fact that maybe it's their own attitudes and actions.

Because every black American is represented by this ridiculous thread.

Do your racist views represent every person of your demographic? No? Than why should the cray cray here represent black Americans?

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We are from Nigeria and would be very upset if our daughter dated or married the typical American black. We want more for our kids.Many african immigrants would agree. I won't even consider living in an American black community.

I alsn consider an African American someone who actually recently immigrated African. There are really no similarities, even features and skin tone is very different. American blacks have a very uniquely American appearance (and values). In my culture, Nigeria,focusing on your studied is expected. Getting a good job is expected.

Nigeria is a culture? 174 million people, three major ethnic groups (and many non-major ethnic groups), three major religions, one culture?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.

Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.

I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.

I think African immigrants would be more likely to want to distinguish themselves from the stereotypical black person thug image.

We are from Nigeria and would be very upset if our daughter dated or married the typical American black. We want more for our kids.Many african immigrants would agree. I won't even consider living in an American black community.

I alsn consider an African American someone who actually recently immigrated African. There are really no similarities, even features and skin tone is very different. American blacks have a very uniquely American appearance (and values). In my culture, Nigeria, focusing on your studied is expected. Getting a good job is expected.

And I wouldn't want my daughter dating ANY African. Especially a Nigerian. Go scam someone out of some money over the Internet and leave us alone.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that they do teach their kids to be respectful, but they are teenagers. Teenagers do what they want and are frequently stupid. Difference is a white teenager is unlikely to get shot for it.

I'm wondering if there is a dialogue going on in AA homes that is very blunt saying -- we think it's unfair this kid was killed but that's how cops are sometimes, so if you are ever stopped, do exactly what they say. Because the dialogue going on publicly is how terrible this is. It is terrible but the notions about black teen boys aren't going anywhere any time soon -- so why not drill it into their heads how one must act as a black teen? Why not tell them it's unfair but that's how the world is instead of giving them ideas that protesting and demonstrating will change the underlying attitudes. I feel like this should be drilled into their heads the same way you drill in things like seatbelts every time you get in a car.

Reallly? Do you think AA parents and the larger AA community just discovered this with Michael Ferguson? I am white and teach my kids that they can't make assumptions that all folks are treated the same and that they need to be allies for their friends who may be unfairly targeted.

Simple ass Saltines teaching their kids to shoot up schools and sexually abuse children and build homemade bombs and slit their own wrists and shit - fuck kinda parenting is y'all doing?

Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.

Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.

I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.

I am not going to wade through this. WE ARE NOT A MONOLITH. THERE IS NO "AFRICAN-AMERICAN' TEXTBOOK THAT WE ALL READ FROM AND USE TO RAISE OUR KIDS IN A WORLD WITH COLOR DISCRIMINATION.

AFRICAN AMERICANS DON'T ALL "THINK" ANY PARTICULAR WAY.

You are a racist!

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We are from Nigeria and would be very upset if our daughter dated or married the typical American black. We want more for our kids.Many african immigrants would agree. I won't even consider living in an American black community.

I alsn consider an African American someone who actually recently immigrated African. There are really no similarities, even features and skin tone is very different. American blacks have a very uniquely American appearance (and values). In my culture, Nigeria, focusing on your studied is expected. Getting a good job is expected.

Thank you for writing this.

This is exactly what students have told me when I've questioned why the cafeteria is so segregated. I have a good friend from Uganda who's now a doctor; he shares the same sentiment. .

So the "black community" clearly is NOT monolithic. And neither is the "white community." for that matter. As someone who's first generation, I have values from two different communities" and close ties to another country.

To the first poster -- if you don't want your kid marrying AA and you consider as AA someone who actually recently immigrated -- what does that leave for your DD? Do you mean that you'll want her to marry a man who comes here from Nigeria after the wedding? Is your DD being raised in the U.S? After 2 decades of being raised in the U.S., won't she pick up some American values such that she'll have less in common with a Nigerian from Nigeria (as opposed to a Nigerian-Am)?

Not criticizing, just asking. Believe me I want nothing to do with the AA community -- and based on the amount of excuse making we've seen on this thread alone, they are ALWAYS the victim and always have an excuse for why they can't get ahead because they just can't accept the fact that maybe it's their own attitudes and actions.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, but as I recall drug use is pretty similar between blacks and white but blacks are arrested in far higher proportions than whites are.

Wasting your breath white folks love lies and only thing they love more than telling em is backing em up with bullshit. They will find a stupid ass statistic to counter every argument when it comes to the reality of racism cause that's the lie they love the most. They got data to denounce everything except for global warming - but trust they working on putting some bullshit together to deny that truth cause that's getting to be a top priority.

Pp here. Yep, we live in a low-income black neighborhood but my white kid suffered far more at the hands of the rich, white kids at her private school and at BCC.

What happen to her at BCC? Are you talking about Bethesda Chevy Chase High School?

Yes. It wasn't something that happened at BCC but it was kids who went to BCC who were drug addicts and users. But those kids don't end up under arrest or in jail. And if they do get arrested, mom and dad get them a good lawyer. It's a different story for kids in Southeast.

I'm so sorry to hear that. I've heard about the drug problems at BCC. I didn't know that things were that bad. That's great that your daughter is in a much happier place now. Unfortunately, rich people in this country get away with more crime than poor people because they can afford great lawyers.

Thanks for your kind words. She's doing very well today but she got in with the wrong crowd in high school and it took her awhile to overcome that and to make changes in her life for the better.