Anonymous wrote:I am watching the ABC show about them tonight, with archival photos. Carolyn was actually stunning in college. I am not sure John would have been considered gorgeous, if he was Joe Schmoe. His hair looks bushy.

In no world, is John not gorgeous. Sorry.

Don't have the patience to sift through 26 pages of this, but I'll just say this was a DNF for me.

I thought it was pretty bad. The writing, the acting, all of it.

I like this show (except for the penultimate just the two of them in the loft thing) but it also got me thinking of just how stupid their problems are.

Okay, you like Montana a lot so why not move there and live a quiet life. No? You have to run George? Okay, at least move to a more secure building on the UES where you can come and go in a dark car with its own entrance/exit. Papps won't be able to get shots of you and will lose interest. I know you can't get away from the scrutiny but how about live your life for a while and just try ignoring people. There wasn't even social media then. Get a job at a fashion house, many will be willing to take you. The one time paparazzi was there has cost you Ralph Lauren and apparently every opportunity forever? You don't want to work? That's fine, but what do you want to do? You should have married a rich and anonymous man then.

The two main characters are so poorly cast and acted, especially JFK Jr.
I get that this was the actor's first real acting role and that he looks similar, but there are a lot of nice-looking actors out there with much more experience and skills that this role could have gone to. It's distractingly bad and in interviews, the actor seems like a nice enough guy -- he was set up to fail for this one.

They both cheated on each other and she did hard drugs. The show whitewashed both of them. Though it did a good job showing how stupid he was and how charming people say she was.

Somehow I was all about the first episodes in this series.

Then by the marriage I was kind of over it. And especially that slog in the loft where they were arguing. Excruciatingly boring.

I was actually surprised by how invested I was in the first half of the episodes. I steeled through for the final episode the day after and kept thinking it would be some kind of incredible payoff.

For me, at least, it was not. It wasn't quite "LOST" or "Sopranos" level of finale disappointment, but it was also not what I expected of a Ryan Murphy project.

He explores things that shock people.

He didn't do any of that anywhere in this series.

Murphy did, however, capture that period of time in the 90s. The music was insanely well done.

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Anonymous wrote:I enjoyed the show but didn’t like the last two episodes. Didn’t think the details were accurate.

None of the show was accurate. They portrayed a fairytale that was very favorable to both people when the reality was more of a nightmare following their wedding.

I’m pretty sure that the part about them not making it to Martha’s Vineyard was accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:I enjoyed the show but didn’t like the last two episodes. Didn’t think the details were accurate.

None of the show was accurate. They portrayed a fairytale that was very favorable to both people when the reality was more of a nightmare following their wedding.

I don't really know anything about them but I would describe the show's portrayal of their post-wedding life as a nightmare. Carolyn is miserable, John doesn't get it, she seems really lonely, he seems to be carrying life as usual, oblivious to how much trouble she's having figuring out how to live her life under that much scrutiny.

If the goal was to show that it was mostly just a mutual attraction that couldn't withstand the tabloid scrutiny it attracted, mission accomplished.

I did think it was weird how the last episode seemed determined to convince you that they really loved each other because the rest of the show doesn't really demonstrate that at all. They seemed infatuated with each other and there was this self awareness that they look really good together that seems to turn them both on, but I don't see love.

Again this is just my assessment of the show, I know nothing about them IRL beyond seeing a few photos and obviously knowing his family's general background.

Anonymous wrote:I enjoyed the show but didn’t like the last two episodes. Didn’t think the details were accurate.

None of the show was accurate. They portrayed a fairytale that was very favorable to both people when the reality was more of a nightmare following their wedding.

I enjoyed the show but didn’t like the last two episodes. Didn’t think the details were accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:The fake ending is infinitely better than the reality…if you believe Reddit and gossip articles that say:

1. He was cheating with his ex Julie Baker for the last year of his life and she was with him at his hotel where he had been living the night before the accident.

2. Carolyn was either an addict OR JFK Jr concocted that narrative so he would have a plausible exit strategy that garnered sympathy.

I mean, she has admitted to this. Several ex-girlfriends of his admitted to coming over that week at the Stanhope. This isn't a fabrication by People Magazine and Reddit.

He was a serial cheater, like all Kennedy men.

Not according to this:

https://people.com/jfk-jr-carolyn-bessette-tumultuous-final-summer-11924279

“ Baker herself refuted rumors in Terenzio and McNeil's book. She said that she spoke with John on the night before he died, and had lunch with him a few days prior, but was not with him at the hotel. "He was at a baseball game and wanted me to meet up with him and his friend after to grab a drink," Baker said of John's last night. "I was away, so I couldn’t."

i love the 90s vibes fashion and soundtrack--but they seemed dim and flat as people, in this show.

The actress playing Carolyn doesn’t capture her essence at all. She seems like she belongs on gossip girl or something. I’m enjoying the show but these two don’t hold a flame to the real deals.

It’s interesting because in the crown, I felt like they did a really good job portraying young Charles and Diana. I’m just not feeling the personas here. It’s great 90s nostalgia though. They capture the decade well.

Anonymous wrote:I recall hearing at the time that she didn't want to go to the wedding and only relented because Lauren was to accompany them as a buffer and out of respect to the bride & groom as her not showing up would have made waves.

John's assistant said she talked her into going, and of course feels bad about it now.

I recall hearing at the time that she didn't want to go to the wedding and only relented because Lauren was to accompany them as a buffer and out of respect to the bride & groom as her not showing up would have made waves.