Anonymous wrote:He is clearly a sociopath. It is bothersome that people keep bringing up autism or that he was bullied or anything else. There is no other explanation.

He broke into houses when he was younger. His childhood friend’s mother described that when he was a young adult her son was in rehab and Brian asked when she was going to visit bevause he wanted to go as well. She told him and he didn’t show up to go along with her but when she got back things had been stolen from her house. She realized he just asked so he would know when she was out of the house.

Then a couple years later she was in her kitchen and turned around and he was in her house and apologized to her as part of a rehab program. He never called before or knocked or announced his presence in any way. By that time her son had OD’d and supposedly his mom never called to express regrets. She also said her son was never invited inside Brian’s house.

Crime experts theorize he was sneaking into other houses to creep around as well and got bolder. He would have gone in to kill more people if he hadn’t have been caught.

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Anonymous wrote:Despite the defeatist view in here that we should do nothing, others have taken notice and are trying to do something to prevent this so called completely unpredictable phenomenon.

https://www.newark.rutgers.edu/news/study-reveals-how-incels-become-violent-extremists

I applaud this work, especially if it leads to finding ways to combat the radicalization of incense and similar people via internet reforms or changes to our education system.

This is also different than just locking up all self-identified incels, or expecting family members of these men to find some way to lock them up without any support from law enforcement or the mental health community, neither of which will do anything unless you can prove that someone poses and imminent threat to other people, something you generally can't do.

Somehow there might be something between do nothing and lock them up. I think some parents of boys are feeling very uncomfortable in here and instead of lashing out at others, should spend more time talking to their own sons and taking stock.

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Anonymous wrote:Despite the defeatist view in here that we should do nothing, others have taken notice and are trying to do something to prevent this so called completely unpredictable phenomenon.

https://www.newark.rutgers.edu/news/study-reveals-how-incels-become-violent-extremists

I applaud this work, especially if it leads to finding ways to combat the radicalization of incense and similar people via internet reforms or changes to our education system.

This is also different than just locking up all self-identified incels, or expecting family members of these men to find some way to lock them up without any support from law enforcement or the mental health community, neither of which will do anything unless you can prove that someone poses and imminent threat to other people, something you generally can't do.

Anonymous wrote:Despite the defeatist view in here that we should do nothing, others have taken notice and are trying to do something to prevent this so called completely unpredictable phenomenon.

https://www.newark.rutgers.edu/news/study-reveals-how-incels-become-violent-extremists

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Anonymous wrote:For you geniuses who can’t fathom that the family didn’t predict their son/brother would becomw a mass murderer—
Even if they could have predicted —good luck getting help…read about what parents of children who are actual KNOWN psychopaths (though term reserved for adults but showing signs of psychopathy as children) deal with….maybe educate yourselves and idk… don’t throw stones? Glass houses and all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/

Don’t throw stones? You frantic posters keep giving yourselves away. Much sympathy for the Kohbergs but not a peep about the actual victims.

You are truly an odd duck. Do you rant on street corners about boogeymen?

Brian's victims and their families wish someone had warned them about a certain boogeyman with a knife and no regard for the lives of others as he slashed them to death. .

And what would have changed? They were asleep in their home. They didn't know him. So, even if they were warned, it isn't like they could have taken action other than leaving school which probably wouldn't have happened.

No matter how mentally disturbed, everyone has the right to live freely and do as they wish until they kill someone.

DP. I know you are being facetious here but I am honestly confused as to what exactly you wanted anyone to do. No one knew he was going to murder anyone. I actually feel pretty confident that if his family or colleagues had believed he was capable of something like this, they would have done something. His family had called the cops on him before (for stealing his sister's phone), and his colleagues had just taken his TA position away for being aggressive and creepy at work. So it's not like people were enabling him. It's just no one expected this. And why would you?! It's an insane, horrible, unimaginable thing to do.

Sometimes awful people do awful things and there is nothing anyone could have done to stop it. It's very upsetting to realize this, but it's true. No one knew he would do this because 99.99999999% of people would never, ever do something like this.

And yet the ones who do have a striking similar profile. It's not the vapid sorority girls going on killing sprees so that eliminates a good chunk of your 99.99999%.

Lots of people with Brian's profile don't become murderers though. The vast majority, actually. Do you want to lock up all the socially awkward incel dudes? Look, I don't particularly like that demographic either but that's not the answer. Most of them are just pitiable figures, not mass murderers.

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Anonymous wrote:For you geniuses who can’t fathom that the family didn’t predict their son/brother would becomw a mass murderer—
Even if they could have predicted —good luck getting help…read about what parents of children who are actual KNOWN psychopaths (though term reserved for adults but showing signs of psychopathy as children) deal with….maybe educate yourselves and idk… don’t throw stones? Glass houses and all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/

Don’t throw stones? You frantic posters keep giving yourselves away. Much sympathy for the Kohbergs but not a peep about the actual victims.

You are truly an odd duck. Do you rant on street corners about boogeymen?

Brian's victims and their families wish someone had warned them about a certain boogeyman with a knife and no regard for the lives of others as he slashed them to death. .

And what would have changed? They were asleep in their home. They didn't know him. So, even if they were warned, it isn't like they could have taken action other than leaving school which probably wouldn't have happened.

No matter how mentally disturbed, everyone has the right to live freely and do as they wish until they kill someone.

DP. I know you are being facetious here but I am honestly confused as to what exactly you wanted anyone to do. No one knew he was going to murder anyone. I actually feel pretty confident that if his family or colleagues had believed he was capable of something like this, they would have done something. His family had called the cops on him before (for stealing his sister's phone), and his colleagues had just taken his TA position away for being aggressive and creepy at work. So it's not like people were enabling him. It's just no one expected this. And why would you?! It's an insane, horrible, unimaginable thing to do.

Sometimes awful people do awful things and there is nothing anyone could have done to stop it. It's very upsetting to realize this, but it's true. No one knew he would do this because 99.99999999% of people would never, ever do something like this.

And yet the ones who do have a striking similar profile. It's not the vapid sorority girls going on killing sprees so that eliminates a good chunk of your 99.99999%.

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Anonymous wrote:For you geniuses who can’t fathom that the family didn’t predict their son/brother would becomw a mass murderer—
Even if they could have predicted —good luck getting help…read about what parents of children who are actual KNOWN psychopaths (though term reserved for adults but showing signs of psychopathy as children) deal with….maybe educate yourselves and idk… don’t throw stones? Glass houses and all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/

Don’t throw stones? You frantic posters keep giving yourselves away. Much sympathy for the Kohbergs but not a peep about the actual victims.

You are truly an odd duck. Do you rant on street corners about boogeymen?

Brian's victims and their families wish someone had warned them about a certain boogeyman with a knife and no regard for the lives of others as he slashed them to death. .

And what would have changed? They were asleep in their home. They didn't know him. So, even if they were warned, it isn't like they could have taken action other than leaving school which probably wouldn't have happened.

No matter how mentally disturbed, everyone has the right to live freely and do as they wish until they kill someone.

DP. I know you are being facetious here but I am honestly confused as to what exactly you wanted anyone to do. No one knew he was going to murder anyone. I actually feel pretty confident that if his family or colleagues had believed he was capable of something like this, they would have done something. His family had called the cops on him before (for stealing his sister's phone), and his colleagues had just taken his TA position away for being aggressive and creepy at work. So it's not like people were enabling him. It's just no one expected this. And why would you?! It's an insane, horrible, unimaginable thing to do.

Sometimes awful people do awful things and there is nothing anyone could have done to stop it. It's very upsetting to realize this, but it's true. No one knew he would do this because 99.99999999% of people would never, ever do something like this.

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Anonymous wrote:For you geniuses who can’t fathom that the family didn’t predict their son/brother would becomw a mass murderer—
Even if they could have predicted —good luck getting help…read about what parents of children who are actual KNOWN psychopaths (though term reserved for adults but showing signs of psychopathy as children) deal with….maybe educate yourselves and idk… don’t throw stones? Glass houses and all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/

Don’t throw stones? You frantic posters keep giving yourselves away. Much sympathy for the Kohbergs but not a peep about the actual victims.

You are truly an odd duck. Do you rant on street corners about boogeymen?

Brian's victims and their families wish someone had warned them about a certain boogeyman with a knife and no regard for the lives of others as he slashed them to death. .

And what would have changed? They were asleep in their home. They didn't know him. So, even if they were warned, it isn't like they could have taken action other than leaving school which probably wouldn't have happened.

No matter how mentally disturbed, everyone has the right to live freely and do as they wish until they kill someone.

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Anonymous wrote:For you geniuses who can’t fathom that the family didn’t predict their son/brother would becomw a mass murderer—
Even if they could have predicted —good luck getting help…read about what parents of children who are actual KNOWN psychopaths (though term reserved for adults but showing signs of psychopathy as children) deal with….maybe educate yourselves and idk… don’t throw stones? Glass houses and all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/

Don’t throw stones? You frantic posters keep giving yourselves away. Much sympathy for the Kohbergs but not a peep about the actual victims.

You are truly an odd duck. Do you rant on street corners about boogeymen?

Brian's victims and their families wish someone had warned them about a certain boogeyman with a knife and no regard for the lives of others as he slashed them to death. .

And what would have changed? They were asleep in their home. They didn't know him. So, even if they were warned, it isn't like they could have taken action other than leaving school which probably wouldn't have happened.

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Anonymous wrote:For you geniuses who can’t fathom that the family didn’t predict their son/brother would becomw a mass murderer—
Even if they could have predicted —good luck getting help…read about what parents of children who are actual KNOWN psychopaths (though term reserved for adults but showing signs of psychopathy as children) deal with….maybe educate yourselves and idk… don’t throw stones? Glass houses and all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/

Don’t throw stones? You frantic posters keep giving yourselves away. Much sympathy for the Kohbergs but not a peep about the actual victims.

You are truly an odd duck. Do you rant on street corners about boogeymen?

Brian's victims and their families wish someone had warned them about a certain boogeyman with a knife and no regard for the lives of others as he slashed them to death. .

Anonymous wrote:This line of discussion is absurd. Plenty of weird, socially awkward people, even misogynistic ones, in this world and most of them don’t become mass murderers. We can’t put them all under surveillance just in case.

Stop blaming the family and the people who knew him. And no I have no dog in this fight but you are just talking nonsense.