Restaurants/hospitality venues that are centered around being instagramable. I understand somewhere taking advantage of architecture/landscaping/view, etc to do it. Stuff like neon script signs, fake Ivy walls, Victorian portraits with a stripe of bright paint over the face, etc. just feels cheesy and puts a bad taste in my mouth

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter and her husband have decided not to have children. She stays at home and takes care of their pets, exercises and is a homemaker. They both love their lives.
She has an invisible disability and gets judged about having no kids.. It would put said kids at risk if she was home alone with them.
So, stop being judgy about something you know nothing about.

What is her invisible disability- laziness?

This post just reminded me that "stay at home wives" with no kids are on my list of top things I turn my nose up to.

This is an incredibly cruel comment. She has stargardts. A pregnancy would worsen her condition. She can’t even drive.
You’re an awful person.

If you invite someone over, don't ask them to bring something. I guess Im snobby about etiquette that way.

Conversely, if you are the invitee, even if you are (correctly) told to bring nothing, bring something!

Anonymous wrote:My daughter and her husband have decided not to have children. She stays at home and takes care of their pets, exercises and is a homemaker. They both love their lives.
She has an invisible disability and gets judged about having no kids.. It would put said kids at risk if she was home alone with them.
So, stop being judgy about something you know nothing about.

What is her invisible disability- laziness?

This post just reminded me that "stay at home wives" with no kids are on my list of top things I turn my nose up to.

I don't know why, but people who use "I" when it should be "me" bug me in a way that people who use "me" when it should be "I" do not.

"Me and Alex are going to the store." -- wrong, but whatever.

"Alex is coming to the store with Sasha and I." -- wrong AND very annoying.

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Anyone who gives their kids and/or other people’s kids if carpooling fast food, including Starbucks

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I'm very thankful that people who do not wish to have children do not have them. I'd much rather not see children mistreated because they were not wanted. You're a horrible person for thinking that everyone should have children to meet some kind of societal norm.

Societies for thousands of years have been skeptical and wary of childless people. For very valid reasons.

Nope, only psychos like you. People do not have children for a million different reasons. You should learn how to mind your own business. I'm extremely weary of stupid people like you.

There are no million different reasons, there is always one reason: God/nature/higher power decided that these people do not need procreate their own type. The cycle will end with them. But poor idiots think it is their decision.

Hmmm this is an interesting one. As a younger woman (20s/early 30s) I always thought there was something a bit off about people who remained childless past the age of 40. going through my 30s and having my own children I have tried to reserve judgement and quash these feelings. But observing my own circle it seems the functional, successful ones all have kids and the ones with severe mental health issues or other life impediments have ended up childless.
I also wonder if it is a chicken and the egg thing- are the childless mentally unbalanced older women I know that ways because they never had kids? Or did they not have kids because of their own limitations?
Anyway something to ponder. I would never admit this in real life because it is very in PC. We're supposed to be in admiration of women who are childless and "free".

Strange take. Look at truly trailblazing woman and you’ll find most of them did not have children. All the women I look up to in my life that I have learned the most from (two bosses, one aunt, a family friend, and a college professor) did not have children. It’s nearly impossible to be successful on a really big scale and follow your actual dreams if you have children.

Such horseshit. For one, your career is never more important than raising a family. Two, tens of millions of professionally successful American women--women at the highest levels of medicine, business, academia and research, government and public service--were wise enough to find the time to have children.

Lady, you flatter yourself way too much. I can think of some people whose careers are infinitely more important than the children you brought into this world.

Yeah but let’s be real here … if you’re here s*** posting on DCUM, you don’t have one of those careers. 99.5% of people aren’t doing cutting edge cancer research or serving as Supreme Court justices.

Aww, you think your kids are so special. They're not. Most teachers, nurses, doctors, firefighters, EMTs, physical therapists, occupational therapists, volunteers for animal shelters, etc. are going to contribute more to the world than your kids. Procreating doesn't mean anything. Cockroaches do it. Raising good children who will be contributing members to society is important but somehow I doubt you've managed to do that. Again, you flatter yourself way too much.

The original reply was about “truly trailblazing women,” not about people with regular careers. Like teachers and firefighters and such … most of whom have kids. LOL. And again - what “truly trailblazing women” are wasting time here? I’m not “trailblazing,” but perhaps you would know? What trailblazing career do you have any why are you on a mom/dad/parenting forum without kids? I’m so curious!

I don't know why you're telling me what I posted, but ok. I responded to the person who said a career is never more important than family. I said most kids aren't that great and many careers make much more of a difference than your parenting. But I could barely read your post so I'm not sure what else you're prattling on about. Try grown up sentences next time.

Then don't have kids.

I have kids. I think they're great. Do I think having them makes me a better person? No. Anyone who thinks their kids are their greatest accomplishment hasn't done much with their life.

Yeah, they might be your greatest source of joy in life, which is wonderful! But it’s not really an accomplishment to reproduce.

Can you give us an example of what you have accomplished that is greater than creating a human life and more perfect than a human life?

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Anonymous wrote:Pitbull and pitbull “mixes” and their owners

Anyone who gives their kids and/or other people’s kids if carpooling fast food, including Starbucks

Childless people older than age 35; especially childless politicians and bureaucrats

I'm very thankful that people who do not wish to have children do not have them. I'd much rather not see children mistreated because they were not wanted. You're a horrible person for thinking that everyone should have children to meet some kind of societal norm.

Societies for thousands of years have been skeptical and wary of childless people. For very valid reasons.

Nope, only psychos like you. People do not have children for a million different reasons. You should learn how to mind your own business. I'm extremely weary of stupid people like you.

There are no million different reasons, there is always one reason: God/nature/higher power decided that these people do not need procreate their own type. The cycle will end with them. But poor idiots think it is their decision.

Hmmm this is an interesting one. As a younger woman (20s/early 30s) I always thought there was something a bit off about people who remained childless past the age of 40. going through my 30s and having my own children I have tried to reserve judgement and quash these feelings. But observing my own circle it seems the functional, successful ones all have kids and the ones with severe mental health issues or other life impediments have ended up childless.
I also wonder if it is a chicken and the egg thing- are the childless mentally unbalanced older women I know that ways because they never had kids? Or did they not have kids because of their own limitations?
Anyway something to ponder. I would never admit this in real life because it is very in PC. We're supposed to be in admiration of women who are childless and "free".

Strange take. Look at truly trailblazing woman and you’ll find most of them did not have children. All the women I look up to in my life that I have learned the most from (two bosses, one aunt, a family friend, and a college professor) did not have children. It’s nearly impossible to be successful on a really big scale and follow your actual dreams if you have children.

Such horseshit. For one, your career is never more important than raising a family. Two, tens of millions of professionally successful American women--women at the highest levels of medicine, business, academia and research, government and public service--were wise enough to find the time to have children.

Lady, you flatter yourself way too much. I can think of some people whose careers are infinitely more important than the children you brought into this world.

Yeah but let’s be real here … if you’re here s*** posting on DCUM, you don’t have one of those careers. 99.5% of people aren’t doing cutting edge cancer research or serving as Supreme Court justices.

Aww, you think your kids are so special. They're not. Most teachers, nurses, doctors, firefighters, EMTs, physical therapists, occupational therapists, volunteers for animal shelters, etc. are going to contribute more to the world than your kids. Procreating doesn't mean anything. Cockroaches do it. Raising good children who will be contributing members to society is important but somehow I doubt you've managed to do that. Again, you flatter yourself way too much.

The original reply was about “truly trailblazing women,” not about people with regular careers. Like teachers and firefighters and such … most of whom have kids. LOL. And again - what “truly trailblazing women” are wasting time here? I’m not “trailblazing,” but perhaps you would know? What trailblazing career do you have any why are you on a mom/dad/parenting forum without kids? I’m so curious!

I don't know why you're telling me what I posted, but ok. I responded to the person who said a career is never more important than family. I said most kids aren't that great and many careers make much more of a difference than your parenting. But I could barely read your post so I'm not sure what else you're prattling on about. Try grown up sentences next time.

Then don't have kids.

I have kids. I think they're great. Do I think having them makes me a better person? No. Anyone who thinks their kids are their greatest accomplishment hasn't done much with their life.

Yeah, they might be your greatest source of joy in life, which is wonderful! But it’s not really an accomplishment to reproduce.

Have you tried to reproduce and failed?

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Anonymous wrote:I detest snobs. I’m convinced the snobbiest people are deeply insecure or just plain a-holes.

Strivers who attempt to highlight their spending habits through pricey or logo’d purchases make a negative impression.

Since my career is in the nonprofit arena, one thing that really irks me is when the most vocal preachy purist judgmental social justice warriors live in fancy houses in largely segregated neighborhoods and send their kids to very expensive private schools. The hypocrisy is so obvious when they don’t walk the walk yet they scream the (hypocritical) talk. These same people tend to draw real lines thanks to their own bias against certain colleges, states, or entire swaths of the country. To wit, an objectively impressive applicant had applied for multiple positions at my org yet none of the hiring managers brought them in for an interview. HR flagged it for me because they couldn’t understand why this candidate wasn’t rising to the top for at least a first interview, and I agreed…but suspected it was because of where they went for undergrad (think: red state). I pulled a hiring manager aside to ask why they hadn’t interviewed this person and they stumbled over their fake excuses. My suspicions were confirmed. In the end, we interviewed and hired the objectively outstanding candidate. Again, a few SJW colleagues allowed their bias to cloud their judgment. So frustrating.

+1 not surprising

+2 on “not surprising,” but it is disappointing and short sighted. There are progressives, Democrats, and people who strongly believe in the mission of your non profit everywhere. Even the reddest red states are around 30% Democratic! This is why the Republicans hate us and why we’re losing the culture wars.

One thing that really annoys me is when nonprofit professionals believe that everyone in their field should be a martyr and not work for real pay or is hypocritical when they want the best schools for their kids at the same time that they fight for the best schools for all.

I also wish the field generally understood that talent costs more money and t hat there is nothing wrong with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Pitbull and pitbull “mixes” and their owners

Anyone who gives their kids and/or other people’s kids if carpooling fast food, including Starbucks

Childless people older than age 35; especially childless politicians and bureaucrats

I'm very thankful that people who do not wish to have children do not have them. I'd much rather not see children mistreated because they were not wanted. You're a horrible person for thinking that everyone should have children to meet some kind of societal norm.

Societies for thousands of years have been skeptical and wary of childless people. For very valid reasons.

Nope, only psychos like you. People do not have children for a million different reasons. You should learn how to mind your own business. I'm extremely weary of stupid people like you.

There are no million different reasons, there is always one reason: God/nature/higher power decided that these people do not need procreate their own type. The cycle will end with them. But poor idiots think it is their decision.

Hmmm this is an interesting one. As a younger woman (20s/early 30s) I always thought there was something a bit off about people who remained childless past the age of 40. going through my 30s and having my own children I have tried to reserve judgement and quash these feelings. But observing my own circle it seems the functional, successful ones all have kids and the ones with severe mental health issues or other life impediments have ended up childless.
I also wonder if it is a chicken and the egg thing- are the childless mentally unbalanced older women I know that ways because they never had kids? Or did they not have kids because of their own limitations?
Anyway something to ponder. I would never admit this in real life because it is very in PC. We're supposed to be in admiration of women who are childless and "free".

Strange take. Look at truly trailblazing woman and you’ll find most of them did not have children. All the women I look up to in my life that I have learned the most from (two bosses, one aunt, a family friend, and a college professor) did not have children. It’s nearly impossible to be successful on a really big scale and follow your actual dreams if you have children.

Such horseshit. For one, your career is never more important than raising a family. Two, tens of millions of professionally successful American women--women at the highest levels of medicine, business, academia and research, government and public service--were wise enough to find the time to have children.

Lady, you flatter yourself way too much. I can think of some people whose careers are infinitely more important than the children you brought into this world.

Yeah but let’s be real here … if you’re here s*** posting on DCUM, you don’t have one of those careers. 99.5% of people aren’t doing cutting edge cancer research or serving as Supreme Court justices.

Aww, you think your kids are so special. They're not. Most teachers, nurses, doctors, firefighters, EMTs, physical therapists, occupational therapists, volunteers for animal shelters, etc. are going to contribute more to the world than your kids. Procreating doesn't mean anything. Cockroaches do it. Raising good children who will be contributing members to society is important but somehow I doubt you've managed to do that. Again, you flatter yourself way too much.

The original reply was about “truly trailblazing women,” not about people with regular careers. Like teachers and firefighters and such … most of whom have kids. LOL. And again - what “truly trailblazing women” are wasting time here? I’m not “trailblazing,” but perhaps you would know? What trailblazing career do you have any why are you on a mom/dad/parenting forum without kids? I’m so curious!

I don't know why you're telling me what I posted, but ok. I responded to the person who said a career is never more important than family. I said most kids aren't that great and many careers make much more of a difference than your parenting. But I could barely read your post so I'm not sure what else you're prattling on about. Try grown up sentences next time.

Then don't have kids.

I have kids. I think they're great. Do I think having them makes me a better person? No. Anyone who thinks their kids are their greatest accomplishment hasn't done much with their life.

Yeah, they might be your greatest source of joy in life, which is wonderful! But it’s not really an accomplishment to reproduce.

I beg to differ. Have you seen some of the people out there these days?

Corn on the cob. I get angry when people overcook it, and it's no longer crunchy.

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Anonymous wrote:Pitbull and pitbull “mixes” and their owners

Anyone who gives their kids and/or other people’s kids if carpooling fast food, including Starbucks

Childless people older than age 35; especially childless politicians and bureaucrats

I'm very thankful that people who do not wish to have children do not have them. I'd much rather not see children mistreated because they were not wanted. You're a horrible person for thinking that everyone should have children to meet some kind of societal norm.

Societies for thousands of years have been skeptical and wary of childless people. For very valid reasons.

Nope, only psychos like you. People do not have children for a million different reasons. You should learn how to mind your own business. I'm extremely weary of stupid people like you.

There are no million different reasons, there is always one reason: God/nature/higher power decided that these people do not need procreate their own type. The cycle will end with them. But poor idiots think it is their decision.

Hmmm this is an interesting one. As a younger woman (20s/early 30s) I always thought there was something a bit off about people who remained childless past the age of 40. going through my 30s and having my own children I have tried to reserve judgement and quash these feelings. But observing my own circle it seems the functional, successful ones all have kids and the ones with severe mental health issues or other life impediments have ended up childless.
I also wonder if it is a chicken and the egg thing- are the childless mentally unbalanced older women I know that ways because they never had kids? Or did they not have kids because of their own limitations?
Anyway something to ponder. I would never admit this in real life because it is very in PC. We're supposed to be in admiration of women who are childless and "free".

Strange take. Look at truly trailblazing woman and you’ll find most of them did not have children. All the women I look up to in my life that I have learned the most from (two bosses, one aunt, a family friend, and a college professor) did not have children. It’s nearly impossible to be successful on a really big scale and follow your actual dreams if you have children.

Such horseshit. For one, your career is never more important than raising a family. Two, tens of millions of professionally successful American women--women at the highest levels of medicine, business, academia and research, government and public service--were wise enough to find the time to have children.

Lady, you flatter yourself way too much. I can think of some people whose careers are infinitely more important than the children you brought into this world.

Yeah but let’s be real here … if you’re here s*** posting on DCUM, you don’t have one of those careers. 99.5% of people aren’t doing cutting edge cancer research or serving as Supreme Court justices.

Aww, you think your kids are so special. They're not. Most teachers, nurses, doctors, firefighters, EMTs, physical therapists, occupational therapists, volunteers for animal shelters, etc. are going to contribute more to the world than your kids. Procreating doesn't mean anything. Cockroaches do it. Raising good children who will be contributing members to society is important but somehow I doubt you've managed to do that. Again, you flatter yourself way too much.

The original reply was about “truly trailblazing women,” not about people with regular careers. Like teachers and firefighters and such … most of whom have kids. LOL. And again - what “truly trailblazing women” are wasting time here? I’m not “trailblazing,” but perhaps you would know? What trailblazing career do you have any why are you on a mom/dad/parenting forum without kids? I’m so curious!

I don't know why you're telling me what I posted, but ok. I responded to the person who said a career is never more important than family. I said most kids aren't that great and many careers make much more of a difference than your parenting. But I could barely read your post so I'm not sure what else you're prattling on about. Try grown up sentences next time.

Then don't have kids.

I have kids. I think they're great. Do I think having them makes me a better person? No. Anyone who thinks their kids are their greatest accomplishment hasn't done much with their life.

Yeah, they might be your greatest source of joy in life, which is wonderful! But it’s not really an accomplishment to reproduce.

This!

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Anonymous wrote:Pitbull and pitbull “mixes” and their owners

Anyone who gives their kids and/or other people’s kids if carpooling fast food, including Starbucks

Childless people older than age 35; especially childless politicians and bureaucrats

I'm very thankful that people who do not wish to have children do not have them. I'd much rather not see children mistreated because they were not wanted. You're a horrible person for thinking that everyone should have children to meet some kind of societal norm.

Societies for thousands of years have been skeptical and wary of childless people. For very valid reasons.

Nope, only psychos like you. People do not have children for a million different reasons. You should learn how to mind your own business. I'm extremely weary of stupid people like you.

There are no million different reasons, there is always one reason: God/nature/higher power decided that these people do not need procreate their own type. The cycle will end with them. But poor idiots think it is their decision.

Hmmm this is an interesting one. As a younger woman (20s/early 30s) I always thought there was something a bit off about people who remained childless past the age of 40. going through my 30s and having my own children I have tried to reserve judgement and quash these feelings. But observing my own circle it seems the functional, successful ones all have kids and the ones with severe mental health issues or other life impediments have ended up childless.
I also wonder if it is a chicken and the egg thing- are the childless mentally unbalanced older women I know that ways because they never had kids? Or did they not have kids because of their own limitations?
Anyway something to ponder. I would never admit this in real life because itis very in PC. We're supposed to be in admiration of women who are childless and "free".

Strange take. Look at truly trailblazing woman and you’ll find most of them did not have children. All the women I look up to in my life that I have learned the most from (two bosses, one aunt, a family friend, and a college professor) did not have children. It’s nearly impossible to be successful on a really big scale and follow your actual dreams if you have children.

Yep. Oprah Winfrey, Dolly Parton, Mother Teresa, Helen Miren, Betty White, etc…oh and Jesus 😁

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Anonymous wrote:Pitbull and pitbull “mixes” and their owners

Anyone who gives their kids and/or other people’s kids if carpooling fast food, including Starbucks

Childless people older than age 35; especially childless politicians and bureaucrats

I'm very thankful that people who do not wish to have children do not have them. I'd much rather not see children mistreated because they were not wanted. You're a horrible person for thinking that everyone should have children to meet some kind of societal norm.

Societies for thousands of years have been skeptical and wary of childless people. For very valid reasons.

Nope, only psychos like you. People do not have children for a million different reasons. You should learn how to mind your own business. I'm extremely weary of stupid people like you.

There are no million different reasons, there is always one reason: God/nature/higher power decided that these people do not need procreate their own type. The cycle will end with them. But poor idiots think it is their decision.

Hmmm this is an interesting one. As a younger woman (20s/early 30s) I always thought there was something a bit off about people who remained childless past the age of 40. going through my 30s and having my own children I have tried to reserve judgement and quash these feelings. But observing my own circle it seems the functional, successful ones all have kids and the ones with severe mental health issues or other life impediments have ended up childless.
I also wonder if it is a chicken and the egg thing- are the childless mentally unbalanced older women I know that ways because they never had kids? Or did they not have kids because of their own limitations?
Anyway something to ponder. I would never admit this in real life because it is very in PC. We're supposed to be in admiration of women who are childless and "free".

Strange take. Look at truly trailblazing woman and you’ll find most of them did not have children. All the women I look up to in my life that I have learned the most from (two bosses, one aunt, a family friend, and a college professor) did not have children. It’s nearly impossible to be successful on a really big scale and follow your actual dreams if you have children.

Such horseshit. For one, your career is never more important than raising a family. Two, tens of millions of professionally successful American women--women at the highest levels of medicine, business, academia and research, government and public service--were wise enough to find the time to have children.

Lady, you flatter yourself way too much. I can think of some people whose careers are infinitely more important than the children you brought into this world.

Yeah but let’s be real here … if you’re here s*** posting on DCUM, you don’t have one of those careers. 99.5% of people aren’t doing cutting edge cancer research or serving as Supreme Court justices.

Aww, you think your kids are so special. They're not. Most teachers, nurses, doctors, firefighters, EMTs, physical therapists, occupational therapists, volunteers for animal shelters, etc. are going to contribute more to the world than your kids. Procreating doesn't mean anything. Cockroaches do it. Raising good children who will be contributing members to society is important but somehow I doubt you've managed to do that. Again, you flatter yourself way too much.

The original reply was about “truly trailblazing women,” not about people with regular careers. Like teachers and firefighters and such … most of whom have kids. LOL. And again - what “truly trailblazing women” are wasting time here? I’m not “trailblazing,” but perhaps you would know? What trailblazing career do you have any why are you on a mom/dad/parenting forum without kids? I’m so curious!

I don't know why you're telling me what I posted, but ok. I responded to the person who said a career is never more important than family. I said most kids aren't that great and many careers make much more of a difference than your parenting. But I could barely read your post so I'm not sure what else you're prattling on about. Try grown up sentences next time.

Then don't have kids.

I have kids. I think they're great. Do I think having them makes me a better person? No. Anyone who thinks their kids are their greatest accomplishment hasn't done much with their life.

Yeah, they might be your greatest source of joy in life, which is wonderful! But it’s not really an accomplishment to reproduce.

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Anonymous wrote:Pitbull and pitbull “mixes” and their owners

Anyone who gives their kids and/or other people’s kids if carpooling fast food, including Starbucks

Childless people older than age 35; especially childless politicians and bureaucrats

I'm very thankful that people who do not wish to have children do not have them. I'd much rather not see children mistreated because they were not wanted. You're a horrible person for thinking that everyone should have children to meet some kind of societal norm.

Societies for thousands of years have been skeptical and wary of childless people. For very valid reasons.

Nope, only psychos like you. People do not have children for a million different reasons. You should learn how to mind your own business. I'm extremely weary of stupid people like you.

There are no million different reasons, there is always one reason: God/nature/higher power decided that these people do not need procreate their own type. The cycle will end with them. But poor idiots think it is their decision.

Hmmm this is an interesting one. As a younger woman (20s/early 30s) I always thought there was something a bit off about people who remained childless past the age of 40. going through my 30s and having my own children I have tried to reserve judgement and quash these feelings. But observing my own circle it seems the functional, successful ones all have kids and the ones with severe mental health issues or other life impediments have ended up childless.
I also wonder if it is a chicken and the egg thing- are the childless mentally unbalanced older women I know that ways because they never had kids? Or did they not have kids because of their own limitations?
Anyway something to ponder. I would never admit this in real life because it is very in PC. We're supposed to be in admiration of women who are childless and "free".

Strange take. Look at truly trailblazing woman and you’ll find most of them did not have children. All the women I look up to in my life that I have learned the most from (two bosses, one aunt, a family friend, and a college professor) did not have children. It’s nearly impossible to be successful on a really big scale and follow your actual dreams if you have children.

Such horseshit. For one, your career is never more important than raising a family. Two, tens of millions of professionally successful American women--women at the highest levels of medicine, business, academia and research, government and public service--were wise enough to find the time to have children.

Lady, you flatter yourself way too much. I can think of some people whose careers are infinitely more important than the children you brought into this world.

Yeah but let’s be real here … if you’re here s*** posting on DCUM, you don’t have one of those careers. 99.5% of people aren’t doing cutting edge cancer research or serving as Supreme Court justices.

Aww, you think your kids are so special. They're not. Most teachers, nurses, doctors, firefighters, EMTs, physical therapists, occupational therapists, volunteers for animal shelters, etc. are going to contribute more to the world than your kids. Procreating doesn't mean anything. Cockroaches do it. Raising good children who will be contributing members to society is important but somehow I doubt you've managed to do that. Again, you flatter yourself way too much.

The original reply was about “truly trailblazing women,” not about people with regular careers. Like teachers and firefighters and such … most of whom have kids. LOL. And again - what “truly trailblazing women” are wasting time here? I’m not “trailblazing,” but perhaps you would know? What trailblazing career do you have any why are you on a mom/dad/parenting forum without kids? I’m so curious!

I don't know why you're telling me what I posted, but ok. I responded to the person who said a career is never more important than family. I said most kids aren't that great and many careers make much more of a difference than your parenting. But I could barely read your post so I'm not sure what else you're prattling on about. Try grown up sentences next time.

DP. Just curious… how “great” would a kid have to be to make him or her worthwhile if s/he might interfere with your career? How is this greatness measured? If the kid grows up to cure cancer, is that good enough?

You're completely missing the point. Have you read the whole thread? People are saying that having kids is humans' sole purpose, that kids are the most important thing anyone will ever do, that childless people are less than, etc. That line of thinking is ridiculous. If you want to subscribe to it, go ahead. I will vehemently disagree with you. The career piece stated that no career is more important than raising your children. I think people whose lives have been bettered (or saved) by someone might have a different take. Even if you look outside careers, people have impacts on society in ways far beyond their children. I have a childless friend who has spent her life advocating and volunteering for dog rescues. She has saved countless dogs from suffering and death. I dare say she's accomplished more than some parents of rude, selfish children. People seem to have this inflated sense of how important their job as a parent is and are willing to completely belittle and devalue the ways in which people contribute to the world beyond having kids. Most people have children because they selfishly want them, not because they're going to make society better by having kids. But you can continue to either misunderstand the point or twist my words, it doesn't really matter to me if you're just plain obtuse or bring intentionally stupid. I bet your kids are amazing.

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Anonymous wrote:DH says I'm a chocolate snob. I only like chocolate from places like Belgium or individual chocolate shops, where each piece looks like a work of art. For me it's the texture and combination of flavors.

Dark is my favorite, but I also love milk and sometimes white. I especially love nuts, fruit or toffee in the chocolate. And I love crispy or crunchy over smooth.

If it's chocolate that comes from a grocery or chain store, I have zero interest. It all just tastes so grainy.

We vacationed in CA near Sees Candy and it was pretty good.

I only have chocolate candy once a year or so if we travel somewhere that has a specialty chocolate shop.

It's also handy to be this kind of snob now when we have buy chocolate for Halloween and end up with extras. I have no temptation, and donate to the food pantry on Nov 1.

See's Candy is considered the Hershey's chocolate of California. I live in SF, and work about a block and a half from a See's - I would never buy anyone chocolate from there. If you're ever in SF, try Dandelion Chocolate, Christopher Elbow, or Recchiuti.

I also remember Diane Kron in Malibu. Are these similar to K? I doubt I'll ever get back to CA again, but thanks for the suggestions.