Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:41     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is safe to say that FVU, who has now scrubbed McLean from their website and only list Vienna and BRYC will have Vienna and BRYC coaches. FVU already had WAY too many coaches, one team, three teams worth of coaches. Why would they show loyalty to the McLean coaches? The Vienna and BRYC coaches and admin will protect the Vienna and BRYC coaches. This without thought to the fact that the coaches on the girls side at FVU were mostly Vienna coaches, who supposedly picked the “best” kids from the three clubs and managed to produce teams with a worse record than the Union teams. Hard to do. Total debacle of politics, bad player evaluation, and bad coaching. How do you combine the supposed “best” of Brave and Union and get worse records? But I guarantee you, the coaches announced for the FVU girls will be heavy MV and LO and maybe
NM and ML if GFR joins the union. It will be interesting to see if GFR gets any voting rights in the new Union, doubtful, and if no, then expect less NM and ML. Enjoy some kickball and questionable starters. But none of this matters when the boys side also got worse and ECNL will likely revoke the charter in a year anyway.


I agree with all of this. So they already scrubbed McLean from their website - how does this affect the rest of the spring season that the 2011s and 2012s have to play? LO coaches the 2011s with CW and MV coaches the 2012s with CW. If CW is out, is he already out for the rest of the season? That would make us want to pull our DD from FVU now, and not wait around to see the disaster of the rest of the season. BRAVE was not a strong team before the merger - no way we’re staying if Union coaches don’t stay.


Not sure if you’re an actual parent at the club but I’d guess not. CW has some involvement for the 11’s and basically none for the 12’s. The Brave 11’s team and the core of the 12’s were better than Union last year.

How many actual McLean kids are on those rosters? Either way, it sounds like NVA kids would be happy to take your spot.


MV has spoken
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:38     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Did a lot of Mclean kids stay with FVU? I thought a lot of them went elsewhere last year.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:34     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Is this the first post in history where someone wants JA as a coach!
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:34     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does all of this mean for the other McLean Teams (white and gold?) Are they impacted in all these sweeping changes?


Best kids will go GA
2nd best kids will go GA2
3rd best kids DPL or other league


The communication from MYS to families with players on these teams has been underwhelming at best and very disappointing to not have sufficient information to answer really basic questions.


If you thought the MYS communication was bad, you should have seen the FVU communication. We have kids in FVU and MYS and our coach at MYS received something from the club before it was sent. My understanding is that the FVU coaches were blindsided.
The FVU email was talking about rec soccer and core values. Also selling us on BRYC and VYS. It was kind of cryptic. This will just be Brave 2.0 unless CW, NM, ML, JA and BL are involved. Coaching slate please?!


You really think that the coaches didn’t know about this and were blindsided when practically half of youth soccer knew?
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:30     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does all of this mean for the other McLean Teams (white and gold?) Are they impacted in all these sweeping changes?


Best kids will go GA
2nd best kids will go GA2
3rd best kids DPL or other league


The communication from MYS to families with players on these teams has been underwhelming at best and very disappointing to not have sufficient information to answer really basic questions.


If you thought the MYS communication was bad, you should have seen the FVU communication. We have kids in FVU and MYS and our coach at MYS received something from the club before it was sent. My understanding is that the FVU coaches were blindsided.
The FVU email was talking about rec soccer and core values. Also selling us on BRYC and VYS. It was kind of cryptic. This will just be Brave 2.0 unless CW, NM, ML, JA and BL are involved. Coaching slate please?!
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:27     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So MYS go GA or GA Aspire?


MYS Team 1 - GA
MYS Team 2 Aspire


Where are they going to get a team 1 from? They only have ECRL teams which definitely won’t be able to compete in GA.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:26     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is safe to say that FVU, who has now scrubbed McLean from their website and only list Vienna and BRYC will have Vienna and BRYC coaches. FVU already had WAY too many coaches, one team, three teams worth of coaches. Why would they show loyalty to the McLean coaches? The Vienna and BRYC coaches and admin will protect the Vienna and BRYC coaches. This without thought to the fact that the coaches on the girls side at FVU were mostly Vienna coaches, who supposedly picked the “best” kids from the three clubs and managed to produce teams with a worse record than the Union teams. Hard to do. Total debacle of politics, bad player evaluation, and bad coaching. How do you combine the supposed “best” of Brave and Union and get worse records? But I guarantee you, the coaches announced for the FVU girls will be heavy MV and LO and maybe
NM and ML if GFR joins the union. It will be interesting to see if GFR gets any voting rights in the new Union, doubtful, and if no, then expect less NM and ML. Enjoy some kickball and questionable starters. But none of this matters when the boys side also got worse and ECNL will likely revoke the charter in a year anyway.


I agree with all of this. So they already scrubbed McLean from their website - how does this affect the rest of the spring season that the 2011s and 2012s have to play? LO coaches the 2011s with CW and MV coaches the 2012s with CW. If CW is out, is he already out for the rest of the season? That would make us want to pull our DD from FVU now, and not wait around to see the disaster of the rest of the season. BRAVE was not a strong team before the merger - no way we’re staying if Union coaches don’t stay.


Not sure if you’re an actual parent at the club but I’d guess not. CW has some involvement for the 11’s and basically none for the 12’s. The Brave 11’s team and the core of the 12’s were better than Union last year.

How many actual McLean kids are on those rosters? Either way, it sounds like NVA kids would be happy to take your spot.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:18     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:I think it is safe to say that FVU, who has now scrubbed McLean from their website and only list Vienna and BRYC will have Vienna and BRYC coaches. FVU already had WAY too many coaches, one team, three teams worth of coaches. Why would they show loyalty to the McLean coaches? The Vienna and BRYC coaches and admin will protect the Vienna and BRYC coaches. This without thought to the fact that the coaches on the girls side at FVU were mostly Vienna coaches, who supposedly picked the “best” kids from the three clubs and managed to produce teams with a worse record than the Union teams. Hard to do. Total debacle of politics, bad player evaluation, and bad coaching. How do you combine the supposed “best” of Brave and Union and get worse records? But I guarantee you, the coaches announced for the FVU girls will be heavy MV and LO and maybe
NM and ML if GFR joins the union. It will be interesting to see if GFR gets any voting rights in the new Union, doubtful, and if no, then expect less NM and ML. Enjoy some kickball and questionable starters. But none of this matters when the boys side also got worse and ECNL will likely revoke the charter in a year anyway.


You act like you know what you’re talking about but are wrong about so much.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:15     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does all of this mean for the other McLean Teams (white and gold?) Are they impacted in all these sweeping changes?


Best kids will go GA
2nd best kids will go GA2
3rd best kids DPL or other league


The communication from MYS to families with players on these teams has been underwhelming at best and very disappointing to not have sufficient information to answer really basic questions.


They have a meeting coming up.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:15     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:So MYS go GA or GA Aspire?


MYS Team 1 - GA
MYS Team 2 Aspire
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:15     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does all of this mean for the other McLean Teams (white and gold?) Are they impacted in all these sweeping changes?


Best kids will go GA
2nd best kids will go GA2
3rd best kids DPL or other league


The communication from MYS to families with players on these teams has been underwhelming at best and very disappointing to not have sufficient information to answer really basic questions.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:13     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
So MYS go GA or GA Aspire?
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:09     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
So last year ECNL forced the Mclean union to combine with BRAVE. Turns out they overplayed their hand and drove Mclean to GA. Now with Loudoun about to do the same, ECNL managed to diminish their footprint in NoVa and allowed a competitor to move in. It might take a couple more years but in no way does this help ECNL. Of course the fanboys will try to spin it that way (fewer watered down teams means better teams!) but ECNL doesn’t want this.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 07:08     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is safe to say that FVU, who has now scrubbed McLean from their website and only list Vienna and BRYC will have Vienna and BRYC coaches. FVU already had WAY too many coaches, one team, three teams worth of coaches. Why would they show loyalty to the McLean coaches? The Vienna and BRYC coaches and admin will protect the Vienna and BRYC coaches. This without thought to the fact that the coaches on the girls side at FVU were mostly Vienna coaches, who supposedly picked the “best” kids from the three clubs and managed to produce teams with a worse record than the Union teams. Hard to do. Total debacle of politics, bad player evaluation, and bad coaching. How do you combine the supposed “best” of Brave and Union and get worse records? But I guarantee you, the coaches announced for the FVU girls will be heavy MV and LO and maybe
NM and ML if GFR joins the union. It will be interesting to see if GFR gets any voting rights in the new Union, doubtful, and if no, then expect less NM and ML. Enjoy some kickball and questionable starters. But none of this matters when the boys side also got worse and ECNL will likely revoke the charter in a year anyway.


I agree with all of this. So they already scrubbed McLean from their website - how does this affect the rest of the spring season that the 2011s and 2012s have to play? LO coaches the 2011s with CW and MV coaches the 2012s with CW. If CW is out, is he already out for the rest of the season? That would make us want to pull our DD from FVU now, and not wait around to see the disaster of the rest of the season. BRAVE was not a strong team before the merger - no way we’re staying if Union coaches don’t stay.


The spring season will continue with the current teams. Coaches have contracts to finish out the Spring season unless there's a mutual agreement to terminate it. This is similar to when FCV collapsed last year at this time and coaches moved over to VRSC. Some coaches were able able to move early, while others had to wait and finish out the season. FCV teams continued to play knowing that most of the girls would move to other clubs.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2025 06:45     Subject: McLean leaving FVU
Anonymous wrote:I think it is safe to say that FVU, who has now scrubbed McLean from their website and only list Vienna and BRYC will have Vienna and BRYC coaches. FVU already had WAY too many coaches, one team, three teams worth of coaches. Why would they show loyalty to the McLean coaches? The Vienna and BRYC coaches and admin will protect the Vienna and BRYC coaches. This without thought to the fact that the coaches on the girls side at FVU were mostly Vienna coaches, who supposedly picked the “best” kids from the three clubs and managed to produce teams with a worse record than the Union teams. Hard to do. Total debacle of politics, bad player evaluation, and bad coaching. How do you combine the supposed “best” of Brave and Union and get worse records? But I guarantee you, the coaches announced for the FVU girls will be heavy MV and LO and maybe
NM and ML if GFR joins the union. It will be interesting to see if GFR gets any voting rights in the new Union, doubtful, and if no, then expect less NM and ML. Enjoy some kickball and questionable starters. But none of this matters when the boys side also got worse and ECNL will likely revoke the charter in a year anyway.


I agree with all of this. So they already scrubbed McLean from their website - how does this affect the rest of the spring season that the 2011s and 2012s have to play? LO coaches the 2011s with CW and MV coaches the 2012s with CW. If CW is out, is he already out for the rest of the season? That would make us want to pull our DD from FVU now, and not wait around to see the disaster of the rest of the season. BRAVE was not a strong team before the merger - no way we’re staying if Union coaches don’t stay.