Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:33     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

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Anonymous wrote:Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.


Oh the horror!


You don’t care about small businesses being affected by tariffs?


I care more about how illegal immigrants have placed such a drain on our economy.


We know. You keep telling us every minute. Do you have any other concerns or interests in life?


The PP has no idea what she is talking about. (She's probably posting from Russia.)

Immigrants pay taxes. They take jobs that Americans won't take. They add so much money TO our economy.

The right-wing oligarchy is spreading this smear campaign of lies about immigrants draining our economy to hide the fact that the oligarchy is the actual drain on our economy!! They are stealing us blind right beneath our noses.

The immigrants are keeping our economy going.

The right-wing won't deport a fraction of the number they claim they will because to do so will crash the US economy.

Those deportations won't happen, except to a few hundred thousand poor undocumented souls, most of whom will keep trying until they get into the US.

And when they get here, they will find jobs because America needs workers.



Illegal immigrants are not paying taxes. Get it through your head.


They pay way more than the Trump family

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.






And cost over 150 billion.

That's a net drain.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:33     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.


Oh the horror!


You don’t care about small businesses being affected by tariffs?


I care more about how illegal immigrants have placed such a drain on our economy.


We know. You keep telling us every minute. Do you have any other concerns or interests in life?


The PP has no idea what she is talking about. (She's probably posting from Russia.)

Immigrants pay taxes. They take jobs that Americans won't take. They add so much money TO our economy.

The right-wing oligarchy is spreading this smear campaign of lies about immigrants draining our economy to hide the fact that the oligarchy is the actual drain on our economy!! They are stealing us blind right beneath our noses.

The immigrants are keeping our economy going.

The right-wing won't deport a fraction of the number they claim they will because to do so will crash the US economy.

Those deportations won't happen, except to a few hundred thousand poor undocumented souls, most of whom will keep trying until they get into the US.

And when they get here, they will find jobs because America needs workers.



Illegal immigrants are not paying taxes. Get it through your head.


They pay way more than the Trump family

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.






In 2022, US income tax totalled $4.9 trillion. They paid roughly 1.2%. In the same year, we had about 11 million illegal immigrants, for about 3% of the population. Please don't tell me they made less and therefore pay less. The less they make, the more they burden the social safety nets.

Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:33     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.


Oh the horror!


You don’t care about small businesses being affected by tariffs?


I care more about how illegal immigrants have placed such a drain on our economy.


We know. You keep telling us every minute. Do you have any other concerns or interests in life?


The PP has no idea what she is talking about. (She's probably posting from Russia.)

Immigrants pay taxes. They take jobs that Americans won't take. They add so much money TO our economy.

The right-wing oligarchy is spreading this smear campaign of lies about immigrants draining our economy to hide the fact that the oligarchy is the actual drain on our economy!! They are stealing us blind right beneath our noses.

The immigrants are keeping our economy going.

The right-wing won't deport a fraction of the number they claim they will because to do so will crash the US economy.

Those deportations won't happen, except to a few hundred thousand poor undocumented souls, most of whom will keep trying until they get into the US.

And when they get here, they will find jobs because America needs workers.



How much in taxes?

How much is recouped vs expenditures for them plus children?

How many dollars are sent overseas?

How much housing would be available if they were removed?



How much would you house cost if it was built by Americans? You love the cheap shit cheap labor affords you. Hypocrite
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:33     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is Trump going to make an example of businesses that hire undocumented workers? Wouldn’t that be an effective deterrent? If not, how come?


Here’s the issue. As an employer I’m not allowed to question documents even if I suspect they’re false. I’m also not allowed to not hire someone based on those suspicions. You can’t make an example of me simply because my defense would be "how was I supposed to know". You can’t sue a business for questioning documents and blame them for not questioning them at the same time.

What about e-verify? And I’m talking about big businesses that look the other way.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:31     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

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Anonymous wrote:These marginal countries need to understand that there is a new sheriff in town. And when a US plane shows up, you land the plane and take the people, even if not yours. Otherwise, there is going to be a penalty. From Trump’s perspective, it’s a matter of respect. And the US has been disrespected for far too long.


Is this a parody of a MAGA poster?
It’s the new reality, read the news for the last week. Your MAGA label is meaningless, it changes nothing.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:31     Subject: Re:Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all coffee consumed in the United States is imported, and the largest source of that coffee is Colombia. Trump is putting a 25% tax on our top source of coffee, and that tax will be passed on to American consumers

This is beautiful!


You realize we can just choose a different coffee right? That’s the point, people won’t pay it, and they will suffer.

I was not aware coffee was a necessity.


Yeah but I’m sure all of the coffee shops and cafes that sell it won’t appreciate it.



Then they will lose business. Or purchase their coffee elsewhere.

The world isn’t static- you should embrace change!


Of course they will lose business and some will go under and their employees will now be unemployed.. sounds not worth it just to bully Columbia.


COLOMBIA...with two O's.



Not only can't the PP spell "Colombia," the stupid MAGA White House can't either. Minor point but it just goes to show that they're ignorant AND they don't run their written products by a copyeditor. So sloppy.


It's a problem on both sides dear. A liberal PP upthread also spelled it "Columbia" and of course attributed it to autocorrect.


What is the White House attribute it to?


autocorrect? There are stupid people on both sides: stupid MAGA, stupid woke liberal. okay?


When Democrats are in the White House they get the names of countries right. Also, they don't use AI for executive orders.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:30     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is Trump going to make an example of businesses that hire undocumented workers? Wouldn’t that be an effective deterrent? If not, how come?


Here’s the issue. As an employer I’m not allowed to question documents even if I suspect they’re false. I’m also not allowed to not hire someone based on those suspicions. You can’t make an example of me simply because my defense would be "how was I supposed to know". You can’t sue a business for questioning documents and blame them for not questioning them at the same time.


You can use e-verify.


You are correct, and guess what? I still must hire them and let them work while they "resolve the mismatch".

Try again.


Why do you HAVE to hire them? What will happen to you?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:30     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.


Oh the horror!


You don’t care about small businesses being affected by tariffs?


I care more about how illegal immigrants have placed such a drain on our economy.


We know. You keep telling us every minute. Do you have any other concerns or interests in life?


The PP has no idea what she is talking about. (She's probably posting from Russia.)

Immigrants pay taxes. They take jobs that Americans won't take. They add so much money TO our economy.

The right-wing oligarchy is spreading this smear campaign of lies about immigrants draining our economy to hide the fact that the oligarchy is the actual drain on our economy!! They are stealing us blind right beneath our noses.

The immigrants are keeping our economy going.

The right-wing won't deport a fraction of the number they claim they will because to do so will crash the US economy.

Those deportations won't happen, except to a few hundred thousand poor undocumented souls, most of whom will keep trying until they get into the US.

And when they get here, they will find jobs because America needs workers.



Illegal immigrants are not paying taxes. Get it through your head.


They pay BILLIONS in taxes and to the SS/Medicare funds without seeing any of that back.


Link showing the BILLIONS?


DP, I found this in two seconds. There are lots more sources.

“Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.”
https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:30     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.


Oh the horror!


You don’t care about small businesses being affected by tariffs?


I care more about how illegal immigrants have placed such a drain on our economy.


We know. You keep telling us every minute. Do you have any other concerns or interests in life?


The PP has no idea what she is talking about. (She's probably posting from Russia.)

Immigrants pay taxes. They take jobs that Americans won't take. They add so much money TO our economy.

The right-wing oligarchy is spreading this smear campaign of lies about immigrants draining our economy to hide the fact that the oligarchy is the actual drain on our economy!! They are stealing us blind right beneath our noses.

The immigrants are keeping our economy going.

The right-wing won't deport a fraction of the number they claim they will because to do so will crash the US economy.

Those deportations won't happen, except to a few hundred thousand poor undocumented souls, most of whom will keep trying until they get into the US.

And when they get here, they will find jobs because America needs workers.



Illegal immigrants are not paying taxes. Get it through your head.


They pay way more than the Trump family

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.






Lolololol. You think for a moment that $96 billion comes close to what we put out in housing, education, school lunches and Emergency Room services?

NYC alone paid over 4.5 billion for illegal immigrants in one year.

MCPS budget is $3 billion and how much of that goes to ESL? And Maryland is a small state!


Yes, for sure the majority of the budget goes to ESL. Moron
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:30     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is Trump going to make an example of businesses that hire undocumented workers? Wouldn’t that be an effective deterrent? If not, how come?

MAGAs? Care to answer?


I think you would find MAGAs are for that

GOP donors are not for it.

Money talks.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:29     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is Trump going to make an example of businesses that hire undocumented workers? Wouldn’t that be an effective deterrent? If not, how come?


Here’s the issue. As an employer I’m not allowed to question documents even if I suspect they’re false. I’m also not allowed to not hire someone based on those suspicions. You can’t make an example of me simply because my defense would be "how was I supposed to know". You can’t sue a business for questioning documents and blame them for not questioning them at the same time.


You can use e-verify.


You are correct, and guess what? I still must hire them and let them work while they "resolve the mismatch".

Try again.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:29     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:I mean essentially the liberal position of wide open immigration is based on having good feels, which is nice, but it's bad governance.


This is an absolute LIE. The problem is MAGA is incapable of seeing the big picture or understand nuance. No worries, you’ll be on the receiving end of Trump’s policies soon enough

I am still curious why immigrants were not all deported in 2017-2019. No MAGA wants to answer that
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:29     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.


Oh the horror!


You don’t care about small businesses being affected by tariffs?


I care more about how illegal immigrants have placed such a drain on our economy.


We know. You keep telling us every minute. Do you have any other concerns or interests in life?


The PP has no idea what she is talking about. (She's probably posting from Russia.)

Immigrants pay taxes. They take jobs that Americans won't take. They add so much money TO our economy.

The right-wing oligarchy is spreading this smear campaign of lies about immigrants draining our economy to hide the fact that the oligarchy is the actual drain on our economy!! They are stealing us blind right beneath our noses.

The immigrants are keeping our economy going.

The right-wing won't deport a fraction of the number they claim they will because to do so will crash the US economy.

Those deportations won't happen, except to a few hundred thousand poor undocumented souls, most of whom will keep trying until they get into the US.

And when they get here, they will find jobs because America needs workers.



Illegal immigrants are not paying taxes. Get it through your head.


They pay way more than the Trump family

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.






Lolololol. You think for a moment that $96 billion comes close to what we put out in housing, education, school lunches and Emergency Room services?

NYC alone paid over 4.5 billion for illegal immigrants in one year.

MCPS budget is $3 billion and how much of that goes to ESL? And Maryland is a small state!
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:28     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.


Oh the horror!


You don’t care about small businesses being affected by tariffs?


I care more about how illegal immigrants have placed such a drain on our economy.


We know. You keep telling us every minute. Do you have any other concerns or interests in life?


The PP has no idea what she is talking about. (She's probably posting from Russia.)

Immigrants pay taxes. They take jobs that Americans won't take. They add so much money TO our economy.

The right-wing oligarchy is spreading this smear campaign of lies about immigrants draining our economy to hide the fact that the oligarchy is the actual drain on our economy!! They are stealing us blind right beneath our noses.

The immigrants are keeping our economy going.

The right-wing won't deport a fraction of the number they claim they will because to do so will crash the US economy.

Those deportations won't happen, except to a few hundred thousand poor undocumented souls, most of whom will keep trying until they get into the US.

And when they get here, they will find jobs because America needs workers.



How much in taxes?

How much is recouped vs expenditures for them plus children?

How many dollars are sent overseas?

How much housing would be available if they were removed?

Anonymous
Post 01/26/2025 21:27     Subject: Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.


Oh the horror!


You don’t care about small businesses being affected by tariffs?


I care more about how illegal immigrants have placed such a drain on our economy.


We know. You keep telling us every minute. Do you have any other concerns or interests in life?


The PP has no idea what she is talking about. (She's probably posting from Russia.)

Immigrants pay taxes. They take jobs that Americans won't take. They add so much money TO our economy.

The right-wing oligarchy is spreading this smear campaign of lies about immigrants draining our economy to hide the fact that the oligarchy is the actual drain on our economy!! They are stealing us blind right beneath our noses.

The immigrants are keeping our economy going.

The right-wing won't deport a fraction of the number they claim they will because to do so will crash the US economy.

Those deportations won't happen, except to a few hundred thousand poor undocumented souls, most of whom will keep trying until they get into the US.

And when they get here, they will find jobs because America needs workers.



Illegal immigrants are not paying taxes. Get it through your head.


They pay BILLIONS in taxes and to the SS/Medicare funds without seeing any of that back.


This is predatory and abusive.