I had opposite stats as this kid I got into EVERY college I applied to (including MIT) except Stanford. Why? Stanford accepted 3 boys from my high school during early binding admission so even though I had equal or better stats for at least 2 of the 3 I didn't get in because of how I applied (regular admission). I'm assuming this kid did the same and missed out for a variety of reasons including the competition at his own school. Really this isn't about race.


Maybe he did apply Regular decision instead of ED. But that is a problem with the system. Lots of kids aren't sure where they want to go by November 1st and a lot of families can't make a financial commitment because they need to compare prices. ED is a contributing factor that results in great kids like this kid getting shut out from numerous colleges. It is adding to the lottery like quality that admissions to top schools that now seems the norm. The college admission system is not working!

Ok, I'll take the bait.

I had opposite stats as this kid I got into EVERY college I applied to (including MIT) except Stanford. Why? Stanford accepted 3 boys from my high school during early binding admission so even though I had equal or better stats for at least 2 of the 3 I didn't get in because of how I applied (regular admission). I'm assuming this kid did the same and missed out for a variety of reasons including the competition at his own school. Really this isn't about race.

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Yes, he was judged against his peers and penalized for going to a high performing school. The same thing happens across the country.

Unfortunately, we don't have a uniform system of grading or even curriculum in this country--not even at the state level. Even with standardized tests, how does a school compare students in relation to the general population?

The system doesn't have to be perfect. Holistic admissions is good. However, why do they need to directly pit students from one high school against each other? Why not evaluate each student according to their own merits?

The 5 UCs this kid applied to cannot give him a slot given his accomplishments? That is pretty messed up. I understand not being accepted to the other schools he applied to. They are private or another state’s flagship. But when a high achieving California student cannot get a slot in his own state school system (except for campuses where noone wants to attend) then there clearly is a problem.

Maybe they are just tired of people with fake startups run by their parents?

Or tired of any startups. It's an accomplishment, but it's not what undergrad is about, and it's not novel. More than a decade ago a friend's son had a profitable start up, they sat down with Stanford admissions and expected them to gush, but instead heard something to the effect of, this might help applying to our business school at some later date, but undergrad we offer a liberal arts education, maybe we're not what you're looking for. Kid went to Duke as a legacy and on to a lucrative finance career. Assume the business is shuttered.

Yeah, too many fake startups. There is a kid we know with a AI startup whose mother was looking for a CS tutor. The dad is the co-founder. How do you think that looks?

The fake ones make this kid's real one look less impressive. Also there are ton's of kids with fake non-profits. It's all a weird game where honest accomplished kids like this one lose out.

And all that (fake startup, fake non-profits (lying and cheating in other word) only apply to Asians and not to blacks or whites? Gove me a break.

Who said anything about asians? Stanley's accomplishments seem real. There are kids of all races lying and exaggerating on admissions.

Isee but you only bring it up when the topic is about Asian students.

You missed my point. Trying to say that there are kids reporting curated, fake or exaggerated accomplishments. My impression is this is mostly wealthy white families that have hired expensive consultants. This takes away from this kid's real accomplishments.

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Yes, he was judged against his peers and penalized for going to a high performing school. The same thing happens across the country.

Unfortunately, we don't have a uniform system of grading or even curriculum in this country--not even at the state level. Even with standardized tests, how does a school compare students in relation to the general population?

The system doesn't have to be perfect. Holistic admissions is good. However, why do they need to directly pit students from one high school against each other? Why not evaluate each student according to their own merits?

The 5 UCs this kid applied to cannot give him a slot given his accomplishments? That is pretty messed up. I understand not being accepted to the other schools he applied to. They are private or another state’s flagship. But when a high achieving California student cannot get a slot in his own state school system (except for campuses where noone wants to attend) then there clearly is a problem.

Maybe they are just tired of people with fake startups run by their parents?

Or tired of any startups. It's an accomplishment, but it's not what undergrad is about, and it's not novel. More than a decade ago a friend's son had a profitable start up, they sat down with Stanford admissions and expected them to gush, but instead heard something to the effect of, this might help applying to our business school at some later date, but undergrad we offer a liberal arts education, maybe we're not what you're looking for. Kid went to Duke as a legacy and on to a lucrative finance career. Assume the business is shuttered.

Yeah, too many fake startups. There is a kid we know with a AI startup whose mother was looking for a CS tutor. The dad is the co-founder. How do you think that looks?

The fake ones make this kid's real one look less impressive. Also there are ton's of kids with fake non-profits. It's all a weird game where honest accomplished kids like this one lose out.

And all that (fake startup, fake non-profits (lying and cheating in other word) only apply to Asians and not to blacks or whites? Gove me a break.

Who said anything about asians? Stanley's accomplishments seem real. There are kids of all races lying and exaggerating on admissions.

Isee but you only bring it up when the topic is about Asian students.

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Yes, he was judged against his peers and penalized for going to a high performing school. The same thing happens across the country.

Unfortunately, we don't have a uniform system of grading or even curriculum in this country--not even at the state level. Even with standardized tests, how does a school compare students in relation to the general population?

The system doesn't have to be perfect. Holistic admissions is good. However, why do they need to directly pit students from one high school against each other? Why not evaluate each student according to their own merits?

The 5 UCs this kid applied to cannot give him a slot given his accomplishments? That is pretty messed up. I understand not being accepted to the other schools he applied to. They are private or another state’s flagship. But when a high achieving California student cannot get a slot in his own state school system (except for campuses where noone wants to attend) then there clearly is a problem.

Maybe they are just tired of people with fake startups run by their parents?

Or tired of any startups. It's an accomplishment, but it's not what undergrad is about, and it's not novel. More than a decade ago a friend's son had a profitable start up, they sat down with Stanford admissions and expected them to gush, but instead heard something to the effect of, this might help applying to our business school at some later date, but undergrad we offer a liberal arts education, maybe we're not what you're looking for. Kid went to Duke as a legacy and on to a lucrative finance career. Assume the business is shuttered.

Yeah, too many fake startups. There is a kid we know with a AI startup whose mother was looking for a CS tutor. The dad is the co-founder. How do you think that looks?

The fake ones make this kid's real one look less impressive. Also there are ton's of kids with fake non-profits. It's all a weird game where honest accomplished kids like this one lose out.

And all that (fake startup, fake non-profits (lying and cheating in other word) only apply to Asians and not to blacks or whites? Gove me a break.

Who said anything about asians? Stanley's accomplishments seem real. There are kids of all races lying and exaggerating on admissions.

UVA is the Harvard of Virginia.

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Yes, he was judged against his peers and penalized for going to a high performing school. The same thing happens across the country.

Unfortunately, we don't have a uniform system of grading or even curriculum in this country--not even at the state level. Even with standardized tests, how does a school compare students in relation to the general population?

The system doesn't have to be perfect. Holistic admissions is good. However, why do they need to directly pit students from one high school against each other? Why not evaluate each student according to their own merits?

The 5 UCs this kid applied to cannot give him a slot given his accomplishments? That is pretty messed up. I understand not being accepted to the other schools he applied to. They are private or another state’s flagship. But when a high achieving California student cannot get a slot in his own state school system (except for campuses where noone wants to attend) then there clearly is a problem.

Maybe they are just tired of people with fake startups run by their parents?

Or tired of any startups. It's an accomplishment, but it's not what undergrad is about, and it's not novel. More than a decade ago a friend's son had a profitable start up, they sat down with Stanford admissions and expected them to gush, but instead heard something to the effect of, this might help applying to our business school at some later date, but undergrad we offer a liberal arts education, maybe we're not what you're looking for. Kid went to Duke as a legacy and on to a lucrative finance career. Assume the business is shuttered.

Yeah, too many fake startups. There is a kid we know with a AI startup whose mother was looking for a CS tutor. The dad is the co-founder. How do you think that looks?

The fake ones make this kid's real one look less impressive. Also there are ton's of kids with fake non-profits. It's all a weird game where honest accomplished kids like this one lose out.

And all that (fake startup, fake non-profits (lying and cheating in other word) only apply to Asians and not to blacks or whites? Gove me a break.

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Yes, he was judged against his peers and penalized for going to a high performing school. The same thing happens across the country.

Unfortunately, we don't have a uniform system of grading or even curriculum in this country--not even at the state level. Even with standardized tests, how does a school compare students in relation to the general population?

The system doesn't have to be perfect. Holistic admissions is good. However, why do they need to directly pit students from one high school against each other? Why not evaluate each student according to their own merits?

The 5 UCs this kid applied to cannot give him a slot given his accomplishments? That is pretty messed up. I understand not being accepted to the other schools he applied to. They are private or another state’s flagship. But when a high achieving California student cannot get a slot in his own state school system (except for campuses where noone wants to attend) then there clearly is a problem.

Maybe they are just tired of people with fake startups run by their parents?

Or tired of any startups. It's an accomplishment, but it's not what undergrad is about, and it's not novel. More than a decade ago a friend's son had a profitable start up, they sat down with Stanford admissions and expected them to gush, but instead heard something to the effect of, this might help applying to our business school at some later date, but undergrad we offer a liberal arts education, maybe we're not what you're looking for. Kid went to Duke as a legacy and on to a lucrative finance career. Assume the business is shuttered.

Yeah, too many fake startups. There is a kid we know with a AI startup whose mother was looking for a CS tutor. The dad is the co-founder. How do you think that looks?

The fake ones make this kid's real one look less impressive. Also there are ton's of kids with fake non-profits. It's all a weird game where honest accomplished kids like this one lose out.

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Yes, he was judged against his peers and penalized for going to a high performing school. The same thing happens across the country.

Unfortunately, we don't have a uniform system of grading or even curriculum in this country--not even at the state level. Even with standardized tests, how does a school compare students in relation to the general population?

The system doesn't have to be perfect. Holistic admissions is good. However, why do they need to directly pit students from one high school against each other? Why not evaluate each student according to their own merits?

The 5 UCs this kid applied to cannot give him a slot given his accomplishments? That is pretty messed up. I understand not being accepted to the other schools he applied to. They are private or another state’s flagship. But when a high achieving California student cannot get a slot in his own state school system (except for campuses where noone wants to attend) then there clearly is a problem.

Maybe they are just tired of people with fake startups run by their parents?

Or tired of any startups. It's an accomplishment, but it's not what undergrad is about, and it's not novel. More than a decade ago a friend's son had a profitable start up, they sat down with Stanford admissions and expected them to gush, but instead heard something to the effect of, this might help applying to our business school at some later date, but undergrad we offer a liberal arts education, maybe we're not what you're looking for. Kid went to Duke as a legacy and on to a lucrative finance career. Assume the business is shuttered.

Yeah, too many fake startups. There is a kid we know with a AI startup whose mother was looking for a CS tutor. The dad is the co-founder. How do you think that looks?

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Anonymous wrote:So, according to some pp who have commented, this kid probably deserved to be rejected because he wrote lousy essays, had bad teacher recommendations because he is a robot, lied about his accomplishments, isn't really interested in attending college, had grades that were too low (and UC colleges didn't look at his SATs and AP scores), and he is at higher risk of committing suicide because he is Asian, therefore damaged and fragile from years of tiger parenting.

Again, this kid sounds pretty amazing, and his rejection from numerous colleges is more indicative of a failing system than of his failings.

Except there were many fellow Asians that graduated alongside him at the same HS…and were accepted at many schools (or I am sure that would be part of the story).

….So what’s the explanation for that?

I would love to see some of these schools that rejected him offer some insight.

From what I saw with my CS kid last year there are a few possible explanations:
1. Luck
2. Other kids had a more well rounded / "interesting" profile. For example a CS kid that is also an artist or participates in unique activity. He likely looked similar to other accomplished CS kids
3. Other kids are athletes

Also, with a 4.4 WGPA he likely took less AP than some of his classmates. I would say his other accomplishments more than made up for that but perhaps admissions officers do not think the same.

Anonymous wrote:So, according to some pp who have commented, this kid probably deserved to be rejected because he wrote lousy essays, had bad teacher recommendations because he is a robot, lied about his accomplishments, isn't really interested in attending college, had grades that were too low (and UC colleges didn't look at his SATs and AP scores), and he is at higher risk of committing suicide because he is Asian, therefore damaged and fragile from years of tiger parenting.

Again, this kid sounds pretty amazing, and his rejection from numerous colleges is more indicative of a failing system than of his failings.

Well put.

Proud that UMD admitted him. Go Terps!

Anonymous wrote:So, according to some pp who have commented, this kid probably deserved to be rejected because he wrote lousy essays, had bad teacher recommendations because he is a robot, lied about his accomplishments, isn't really interested in attending college, had grades that were too low (and UC colleges didn't look at his SATs and AP scores), and he is at higher risk of committing suicide because he is Asian, therefore damaged and fragile from years of tiger parenting.

Again, this kid sounds pretty amazing, and his rejection from numerous colleges is more indicative of a failing system than of his failings.

Except there were many fellow Asians that graduated alongside him at the same HS…and were accepted at many schools (or I am sure that would be part of the story).

….So what’s the explanation for that?

Anonymous wrote:So, according to some pp who have commented, this kid probably deserved to be rejected because he wrote lousy essays, had bad teacher recommendations because he is a robot, lied about his accomplishments, isn't really interested in attending college, had grades that were too low (and UC colleges didn't look at his SATs and AP scores), and he is at higher risk of committing suicide because he is Asian, therefore damaged and fragile from years of tiger parenting.

Again, this kid sounds pretty amazing, and his rejection from numerous colleges is more indicative of a failing system than of his failings.

This is how racist the liberals are.

Anonymous wrote:So, according to some pp who have commented, this kid probably deserved to be rejected because he wrote lousy essays, had bad teacher recommendations because he is a robot, lied about his accomplishments, isn't really interested in attending college, had grades that were too low (and UC colleges didn't look at his SATs and AP scores), and he is at higher risk of committing suicide because he is Asian, therefore damaged and fragile from years of tiger parenting.

Again, this kid sounds pretty amazing, and his rejection from numerous colleges is more indicative of a failing system than of his failings.

Just imagine saying that about a black student. F8ck ton of hypocrites on here.

So, according to some pp who have commented, this kid probably deserved to be rejected because he wrote lousy essays, had bad teacher recommendations because he is a robot, lied about his accomplishments, isn't really interested in attending college, had grades that were too low (and UC colleges didn't look at his SATs and AP scores), and he is at higher risk of committing suicide because he is Asian, therefore damaged and fragile from years of tiger parenting.

Again, this kid sounds pretty amazing, and his rejection from numerous colleges is more indicative of a failing system than of his failings.