Anonymous
04/02/2023 22:02
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stanford Law grad here. The atmosphere was quite stifling when I was a student there (early 1990s), and I'm a moderate liberal. You had to be hard left to be comfortable. But there was a real emphasis on getting clerkships, which reflected well on the school. The boycott of Stanford law grads, even by just a few judges, is meaningful.
+100
I hope more judges do the same thing.
I don’t know, sounds like discrimination to me. The majority of these students did nothing wrong. Punishing an entire school seems really unseemly from a judge with a lifetime appointment, but let’s be honest- the judges making the headlines here have proven beyond all doubt that they weren’t hired for their judicial temperaments.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 21:59
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Many of these bellyaching judges have Federalist Society set asides- I’m sure they are looking for any excuse to expand those ranks further.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 20:43
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:Stanford Law grad here. The atmosphere was quite stifling when I was a student there (early 1990s), and I'm a moderate liberal. You had to be hard left to be comfortable. But there was a real emphasis on getting clerkships, which reflected well on the school. The boycott of Stanford law grads, even by just a few judges, is meaningful.
+100
I hope more judges do the same thing.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 20:42
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am against clerkship boycotts. But to be honest, clerks from top 25 schools are pretty much fungible.
I think it is very much warranted in this case.
"Rules aren't rules without consequences," Ho said. "And students who practice intolerance don't belong in the legal profession."
Calling the disruption an act of "intellectual terrorism," Ho argued that Duncan's treatment reflects "rampant" viewpoint discrimination at elite law schools, some of which do not employ a single center-right professor.
It is no coincidence, Ho said, that the worst free speech incidents have occurred at the law schools with the least intellectual diversity. Though Ho did not say what it would take for him to lift the boycott, he implied that a more politically diverse faculty—and a less ideologically uniform administration—would go a long way.
How is what Ho is doing different from cancel culture?
I thought leftists were all about “it’s not cancel culture, it’s consequences.” Isn’t this just a natural consequence of bad behavior?
Exactly. Aren't liberals all about long lists of who to boycott? Well, certain law schools can be boycotted too. There is no law stating that students from certain schools are entitled to jobs. Good for these judges.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 20:03
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:Stanford Law grad here. The atmosphere was quite stifling when I was a student there (early 1990s), and I'm a moderate liberal. You had to be hard left to be comfortable. But there was a real emphasis on getting clerkships, which reflected well on the school. The boycott of Stanford law grads, even by just a few judges, is meaningful.
Thanks for chiming in. This is actually good to hear. Perhaps it will cause major changes. Not only at Stanford, but at other law schools.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 18:50
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Stanford Law grad here. The atmosphere was quite stifling when I was a student there (early 1990s), and I'm a moderate liberal. You had to be hard left to be comfortable. But there was a real emphasis on getting clerkships, which reflected well on the school. The boycott of Stanford law grads, even by just a few judges, is meaningful.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 16:24
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am against clerkship boycotts. But to be honest, clerks from top 25 schools are pretty much fungible.
I think it is very much warranted in this case.
"Rules aren't rules without consequences," Ho said. "And students who practice intolerance don't belong in the legal profession."
Calling the disruption an act of "intellectual terrorism," Ho argued that Duncan's treatment reflects "rampant" viewpoint discrimination at elite law schools, some of which do not employ a single center-right professor.
It is no coincidence, Ho said, that the worst free speech incidents have occurred at the law schools with the least intellectual diversity. Though Ho did not say what it would take for him to lift the boycott, he implied that a more politically diverse faculty—and a less ideologically uniform administration—would go a long way.
How is what Ho is doing different from cancel culture?
I thought leftists were all about “it’s not cancel culture, it’s consequences.” Isn’t this just a natural consequence of bad behavior?
Exactly. They have demonstrated through their behavior that they do not have the demeanor to be effective lawyers.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 15:28
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am against clerkship boycotts. But to be honest, clerks from top 25 schools are pretty much fungible.
I think it is very much warranted in this case.
"Rules aren't rules without consequences," Ho said. "And students who practice intolerance don't belong in the legal profession."
Calling the disruption an act of "intellectual terrorism," Ho argued that Duncan's treatment reflects "rampant" viewpoint discrimination at elite law schools, some of which do not employ a single center-right professor.
It is no coincidence, Ho said, that the worst free speech incidents have occurred at the law schools with the least intellectual diversity. Though Ho did not say what it would take for him to lift the boycott, he implied that a more politically diverse faculty—and a less ideologically uniform administration—would go a long way.
How is what Ho is doing different from cancel culture?
I thought leftists were all about “it’s not cancel culture, it’s consequences.” Isn’t this just a natural consequence of bad behavior?
Anonymous
04/02/2023 15:25
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:This whole situation has a silver lining - the many excellent pieces written about the perverse mentality of the Stanford protesters, assistant dean, and others just like them.
“The cycle of degenerating discourse won’t stop if we insist that people we disagree with must first behave the way we want them to,” she said—words that should be read by every CEO and senior law firm partner.
Ms. Martinez’s screed was a principled and honest stand. We can hope her authority prevails. But the fight for ideological diversity and free speech is being lost on most campuses, so here’s a better way to protect wider society from this repressive wave: Employers should stop employing these jackals and make it clear that anyone who has been actively involved in blocking people from expressing a legitimate opinion won’t be hired. We are by now used to the way in which employers scour social media for indiscretions that doom job applications. Do the same for these campus extremists.
I am not urging intolerance of diverse ideas in the workplace. On the contrary, you are perfectly entitled to be a radical and to express yourself openly. What you can’t do is bar viewpoints you don’t like.
It’s time employers started to resist, and began to educate their employees—the hard way if necessary—why free speech is so important.
They’ll find this juice is definitely worth the squeeze.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/employers-need-to-put-the-squeeze-on-woke-intolerance-stanford-law-school-duncan-steinbach-free-speech-13f4ed90
The nutjobs are already in the C suites. It's too late.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 15:05
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am against clerkship boycotts. But to be honest, clerks from top 25 schools are pretty much fungible.
I think it is very much warranted in this case.
"Rules aren't rules without consequences," Ho said. "And students who practice intolerance don't belong in the legal profession."
Calling the disruption an act of "intellectual terrorism," Ho argued that Duncan's treatment reflects "rampant" viewpoint discrimination at elite law schools, some of which do not employ a single center-right professor.
It is no coincidence, Ho said, that the worst free speech incidents have occurred at the law schools with the least intellectual diversity. Though Ho did not say what it would take for him to lift the boycott, he implied that a more politically diverse faculty—and a less ideologically uniform administration—would go a long way.
How is what Ho is doing different from cancel culture?
Anonymous
04/02/2023 13:49
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:I am against clerkship boycotts. But to be honest, clerks from top 25 schools are pretty much fungible.
I think it is very much warranted in this case.
"Rules aren't rules without consequences," Ho said. "And students who practice intolerance don't belong in the legal profession."
Calling the disruption an act of "intellectual terrorism," Ho argued that Duncan's treatment reflects "rampant" viewpoint discrimination at elite law schools, some of which do not employ a single center-right professor.
It is no coincidence, Ho said, that the worst free speech incidents have occurred at the law schools with the least intellectual diversity. Though Ho did not say what it would take for him to lift the boycott, he implied that a more politically diverse faculty—and a less ideologically uniform administration—would go a long way.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 13:08
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
Anonymous wrote:I am against clerkship boycotts. But to be honest, clerks from top 25 schools are pretty much fungible.
Why shouldn’t the judges get to say where they are hiring from? Obviously they don’t think the students are fungible.
Anonymous
04/02/2023 13:00
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
I am against clerkship boycotts. But to be honest, clerks from top 25 schools are pretty much fungible.
Anonymous
Anonymous
03/28/2023 15:50
Subject: Re:Stanford dean of DEI attacks invited speaker, Judge Kyle Duncan
This whole situation has a silver lining - the many excellent pieces written about the perverse mentality of the Stanford protesters, assistant dean, and others just like them.
“The cycle of degenerating discourse won’t stop if we insist that people we disagree with must first behave the way we want them to,” she said—words that should be read by every CEO and senior law firm partner.
Ms. Martinez’s screed was a principled and honest stand. We can hope her authority prevails. But the fight for ideological diversity and free speech is being lost on most campuses, so here’s a better way to protect wider society from this repressive wave: Employers should stop employing these jackals and make it clear that anyone who has been actively involved in blocking people from expressing a legitimate opinion won’t be hired. We are by now used to the way in which employers scour social media for indiscretions that doom job applications. Do the same for these campus extremists.
I am not urging intolerance of diverse ideas in the workplace. On the contrary, you are perfectly entitled to be a radical and to express yourself openly. What you can’t do is bar viewpoints you don’t like.
It’s time employers started to resist, and began to educate their employees—the hard way if necessary—why free speech is so important.
They’ll find this juice is definitely worth the squeeze.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/employers-need-to-put-the-squeeze-on-woke-intolerance-stanford-law-school-duncan-steinbach-free-speech-13f4ed90
“The cycle of degenerating discourse won’t stop if we insist that people we disagree with must first behave the way we want them to,” she said—words that should be read by every CEO and senior law firm partner.
Ms. Martinez’s screed was a principled and honest stand. We can hope her authority prevails. But the fight for ideological diversity and free speech is being lost on most campuses, so here’s a better way to protect wider society from this repressive wave: Employers should stop employing these jackals and make it clear that anyone who has been actively involved in blocking people from expressing a legitimate opinion won’t be hired. We are by now used to the way in which employers scour social media for indiscretions that doom job applications. Do the same for these campus extremists.
I am not urging intolerance of diverse ideas in the workplace. On the contrary, you are perfectly entitled to be a radical and to express yourself openly. What you can’t do is bar viewpoints you don’t like.
It’s time employers started to resist, and began to educate their employees—the hard way if necessary—why free speech is so important.
They’ll find this juice is definitely worth the squeeze.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/employers-need-to-put-the-squeeze-on-woke-intolerance-stanford-law-school-duncan-steinbach-free-speech-13f4ed90